[vCP] An open letter to the eDutch and eBelgian people
Het Catshuis
[Dutch version below!!!]
Greetings eDutch and eBelgian citizens,
In the past days, some interesting developments have occured in the war that has been called the war of Dutch aggression, the war of the Beers, the war of blablabla we’re the best, the war of Bluffing and so on, and so on...
Where we, the Dutch, were at the upperhand in the beginning of this war (whiping the Belgian regions twice), the Belgians took control of Southern and Western Netherlands. Our southern neighbours, that are known and proud of their neutrality, took great joy in “punishing” us and I congratulate them with their victories.
The reason why I congratulate them is simple: when our president Auggustus took war to the Low Countries, it was all about fun. For too long, the eDutch community had been talking about declaring war to eBelgium and finally, they would get this chance. However, for a war to be fun, both countries should feel that fun every now and then.
There are five things I would like to state on behalf of myself, my president and my country. I want to say this to my fellow eDutch countrymen (and women) as well as to our eBelgian folks in the south.
1. The Gold-issue
Not even a week before the starting of the war, the eBelgians donated 391 Gold to us. This gold had been stolen from our treasury a few days before that and it had been given to the eBelgian treasury. In other words: the eBelgians donated 391 Gold that did not belong to them. We were thankful and happy because they did the right thing.
Now, after several people have made propaganda about it, a lot of the eDutch and eBelgians started yelling: ‘That’s not fair! We/they gave back that gold and this is how we/you thank them/us?!’
Of course, I and the government with me understand that it feels rather unfair. But look at it this way: if the Belgians had not sent back the money, we would have attacked them eitherway, only harder and with a reason. We are glad that we don’t have a real reason and we can just say: ‘Yo, bro, let’s attack!’
2. MPP’s and the loss of our regions
In the past days, the Belgians have become proud of the fact that they were able to take two of our regions. They have the right to be proud, but there should be some nuance in their victorious feelings.
The eBelgian congress have had a 24/7 task signing all the MPP’s they signed in the past few days. Thanks to those MPP’s and thanks to the (very tactful!) precision with which they chose the time of their attacks (usually at midnight, when the world is awake but the Dutch are taking a well-deserved nap), the Belgians were successful in retaking their own and taking the Dutch regions. This success comes for 90% from their MPP’s.
The loss of our regions is not a bad thing. In a war, it is inevitable to loose some battles and thus some regions. This loss also has a tactical reason: giving the Belgians some hope in this war makes it more fun. Also: our people are more motivated to fight. The more motivation there is, the more fun!
eDutch citizens: don’t fear the Belgian threat. Your Ministry of Defense and the Presidential Staff is highly motivated and busy with managing this war. In the end, the Dutch regions will be taken back just as the Belgian regions were. After that, the war will be brought back to the Belgian borders.
3. Congress
An important issue about this war are the respective congresses of our countries. A country that has no regions can’t have a congress and not having a congress is one of the biggest fears of every country. Since this war is all about fun and not about conquering and teasing eachother, I suggest we agree on something like the following:
- Both countries agree that on the 24th of March, both the Dutch as Belgian Party Presidents will have the opportunity to set congress members as electable. On the 25th of March, both countries will have Congress Elections.
4. Ending the war
The Belgian president has stated the next four terms for putting an end to the war:
1. An end to hostilities
2. eNL recaptures its home territories through RW’s unopposed by eBelgium
3. An in-game peace treaty
4. A formal peace treaty ending the conflict
These terms seem logical and reasonable, but it is not what this war is about. These terms clearly are set up in the idea that Belgium is at the upperhand. On this moment, that is true, but within a few days, the Belgian borders might be crossed by Dutch forces again. The future is unclear about that.
The Belgians want peace and we understand that. But why not enjoy this for a little longer? After all...
5. What this war has brought us
...this war has brought a lot of good things to us.
1. More MPP’s for eBelgium. That’s not a bad thing, right?
2. More new players on both of our sides. That’s not a bad thing, for sure!
3. More reason for inactive people on both of our sides to become active. That’s not a bad thing (as long as they’re nice people)!
4. A reason to be proud of your country. That’s not a bad thing!
5. We got to know eachother. Is that a bad thing? I’m not sure yet...
Let’s enjoy this war, let’s enjoy eachother. Let’s enjoy the game.
Greetings,
Mattio
Vice-President of the Netherlands
Ps. And 6: Belgian beer is good! We need something to show how great real, Dutch beer is...
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[Nederlandse versie]
Beste eNederlandse en eBelgische burgers,
In de afgelopen dagen hebben interessante ontwikkelingen zich voltroken in de oorlog die de Oorlog van Nederlandse aggressie, the Oorlog der Bieren, de Oorlog van blablabla wij zijn de besten, de Oorlog van Grootspraak en ik weet niet wat nog meer genoemd is...
Waar wij, de Nederlanders, de bovenhand hadden aan het begin van deze oorlog (met twee maal een wegvaging van de Belgische regio’s), hebben de Belgen nu de controle gekregen over Zuid- en West-Nederland. Onze zuiderburen, die bekend staan om en trots zijn op hun neutraliteit, genieten erg van het “afstraffen” van ons en ik feliciteer ze met hun overwinningen.
De reden dat ik hen feliciteer is simpel: toen onze president Auggustus oorlog naar de Lage Landen bracht, ging het enkel om het plezier. Voor veel te lang heeft de eNederlandse gemeenschap gepraat over een oorlogsverklaring aan België en eindelijk zouden ze deze kans krijgen. Echter, wil een oorlog leuk zijn, dan moeten beide landen zo nu en dan dat plezier kunnen beleven.
Er zijn vijf dingen die ik zou willen stellen namens mijzelf, namens mijn president en namens mijn land. Ik wil dit zeggen tegen mijn medelanders, maar ook tegen onze Belgische makkers in het zuiden.
1. De goud-zaak
Nog geen week voor het begin van de oorlog doneerden de Belgen 391 Goud aan ons. Dit goud was gestolen uit onze schatkist enkele dagen daarvoor en het was doorgesluisd aan de eBelgische schatkist. Met andere woorden: de eBelgen doneerden 391 Goud dat hun niet toebehoorde. We waren hen dankbaar en waren blij omdat ze het juiste gedaan hebben.
Nu, nadat meerdere personen er propaganda over hebben gemaakt, beginnen eNederlanders en eBelgen te roepen: ‘Dat is niet eerlijk! Wij/zij gaven dat goud terug en dit is hoe we/jullie hen/ons bedanken?!’
Natuurlijk begrijpen ik en de regering met mij dat het behoorlijk oneerlijk klinkt. Maar kijk er als volgt naar: als de Belgen het geld niet terug hadden gezonden, hadden we hen niettemin aangevallen, slechts harder en met een reden. Wij zijn blij dat we geen echte reden hebben en we dus gewoon kunnen zeggen: ‘Yo, bro, potje robben?’
2. MPP’s en het verlies van onze regio’s
In de afgelopen dagen zijn de Belgen er trots op geworden dat ze in staat bleken twee van onze regio’s in te nemen. Ze hebben het recht trots te zijn, maar er moeten nuances gemaakt worden bij hun victorieuze gevoelens.
Het Belgische congres heeft er een dagtaak aan gehad om alle MPP’s te tekenen die ze in de afgelopen dagen hebben afgesloten. Dankzij die MPP’s en dankzij de (zeer tactische!) precisie waarmee ze de tijden van hun aanvallen planden (meestal rond middernacht, als de wereld wakker is maar de Nederlanders een welverdiende nachtrust genieten) wisten de Belgen er succesvol in te zijn hun eigen en twee Nederlandse regio’s te winnen. Dit succes komt voor 90% van hun bondgenoten.
Het verlies van onze regio’s is niet iets slechts. In een oorlog is het onvermijdelijk enkele gevechten te verliezen en daarmee ook enkele regio’s. Dit verlies heeft ook een tactische reden: door de Belgen wat hoop te geven wordt deze oorlog leuker. Daarbij: ons volk is nu weer “gehermotiveerd” om te vechten. Hoe meer motivatie er is, des te leuker alles is!
eNederlanders: vrees de Belgische dreiging niet. Jullie Ministerie van Defensie en het Presidentiële Ministerie is druk bezig en zeer gemotiveerd deze oorlog te regelen. Uiteindelijk zullen de Nederlandse regio’s herwonnen worden zoals ook de Belgische regio’s heroverd werden. Daarna zal de oorlog teruggebracht worden naar de Belgische grenzen.
3. Congress
Een belangrijk thema in deze oorlog zijn de respectievelijke parlementen van onze landen. Een land zonder regio’s kan geen congres hebben en het niet hebben van een congres is één van de grootste angsten van ieder land. Aangezien deze oorlog om het plezier draait en niet om het veroveren en plagen van de ander, stel ik voor dat we het eens worden over iets zoals het volgende:
- Beide landen stemmen ermee in dat op de 24ste maart zowel de Nederlandse als de Belgische Partijleiders de mogelijkheid hebben congresleden als verkiesbaar in te stellen. Op de 25ste maart zullen beide landen congresverkiezingen houden.
4. De oorlog beëindigen
De Belgische president heeft de volgende vier criteria opgesteld voor het beëindigen van de oorlog:
1. Een eind aan de vijandigheden
2. eNederland heroverd haar thuislanden door RW’s die niet bevochten worden door eBelgië
3. Een in-game vredesverdrag
4. Een formeel vredesverdrag waarmee het conflict tot een eind gebracht wordt
Deze voorwaarden lijken logisch en redelijk, maar het slaat de plank volledig mis in deze oorlog. Deze voorwaarden zijn duidelijk opgesteld vanuit het idee dat België de bovenhand heeft. Op dit moment is dat waar, maar binnen een paar dagen zouden de Belgische grenzen opnieuw doorkruist kunnen worden door Nederlandse troepen. De toekomst is vaag daarover.
De Belgen willen vrede en wij begrijpen dat. Maar waarom zouden we niet nog iets langer hiervan genieten? Ten slotte...
5. Wat deze oorlog ons gegeven heeft
...heeft deze oorlog ons veel goeds gebracht.
1. Meer bondgenoten voor België. Dat is niet verkeerd, toch?
2. Meer nieuwe spelers aan beide zijden. Dat is zeker niet verkeerd!
3. Meer reden voor inactieve spelers aan beide zijden om actief te worden. Dat is niet verkeerd (zolang het leuke mensen zijn)!
4. Een reden om trots te zijn op je land. Dat is niet verkeerd!
5. We hebben elkaar leren kennen. Is dat verkeerd? Daar ben ik nog niet uit...
Laten we van deze oorlog genieten, laten we van elkaar genieten. Laten we genieten van het spel.
Groeten,
Mattio
Vice-President van Nederland
Ps. En 6: Belgisch bier is goed! We hebben iets nodig om te laten zien hoe geweldig echt, Nederlands bier is...
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Comments
Inb4 anyone!
Ik wacht wel met lezen, tot de Nederlandse versie beschikbaar is.
Idiotic war.
Nederlandse versie is onderweg, ElGorro. ;- ) Verwacht ik vanavond.
Had het artikel zoveel haast, dat het niet kon wachten tot vanavond? Ach ja, je gaat er aan wennen....
The huge downside of this war is that you pushed us into ONE arms, blacklisting us from TEDEN while we are neutral and had TEDEN mpps for months... Not that fun as we will have to deal it with it in the furure...
@ThomasRe😛 Call it the downside of neutrality; you may not have any real enemies, but neither do you have any real friends. Deal with it.
Alsjeblieft ElGorro. :- ) Een foutloze Nederlandse vertaling. :- )
gz Mattio, ik ben trots op je! ;- )
Weet ik toch. :'-)
The problem comes from people that think that everybody has the same mind as them.
Your article reflects, in a subjective way, your feelings and what you enjoy in the game (war is fun, having hope is fun, having many MPPs is good, war improves prideness, ...). Apparently, you don't realize that we're all different, and that what you enjoy isn't necessarily the same as what other players do.
So there's nothing to debate about your article. It's just your point of view, your feelings, and what you enjoy in here. I can't debate on your feelings.
But please, don't think you can teach me what should be mine. I do not enjoy this war. And you canno't debate about that. And I don't think most of Belgian players feels the same as you about the war.
Yes, your right saying "However, for a war to be fun, both countries should feel that fun every now and then." But you never asked our opinion. And when we tell you "we don't have fun with this war", you don't give a shit and you try to convince everybody that a war is fun because it's you're opinion. When will you understand we don't have all the same opinions, and accept ours.
You can shout as much as you want the positive effects that you feel about the war, the fact is that most of the belgian don't want it, and would like peace instead.
This article is an LOL.
Jeiry, If you havn;t noticed this game revolves around WAR. This isn;t farmville, this is erepublic. The notion is to go to war and most preferably with your neighbor. We decalred war because we WANT fun. I did this for MY people, so you can call it idiotic war, but in the end it is a game.. and we will crush you 🙂
Sorry, my fault, I didn't know this game was called eWar.
(thanks for keeping proving you don't accept different point of views and different ways of having fun than yours)
Have fun.
Ik vind dit allemaal zo zinloos. Niet dat dit spel zo zinvol is, hoor, maar we zitten een potje oorlog te voeren "voor de lol". Kunnen we echt niet op zijn minst Vlaanderen proberen te houden mochten we winnen?
Blijf dromen Hendrikus Colijn
Hoezo? Die paar leveltjes omhoog zijn leuk enzo, maar ik zou graag écht iets winnen. Maar ja, misschien is dat onrealistisch ofzo.
I've seen tons of ressources wasted, relations spoilt and blind hatred growing towards the other side (both here and in eBelgium). Granted that fighting in a war and occasionally winning a round or a battle is fun, but when the athmosphere surrounding this war turns ugly and a shadow of the Serbia-Croatia scenario appears on the horizon, the fun is wearing off quickly. And there ARE different ways of having fun in this game, the war module is far from being the only fun part here, and I don't think it's fair for one group of people to impose their interpretation of fun on others, so I'm sorry for not being enthusiastic about this war.
I did like this war. I had not the time to fight there. More important for me was to fight Croats in Mexico.
I agree with ThomasRed (I did not agree a long time with him), but this "war of fun" (Auggustus) without asking your opponent how that would be, made you to have an enemy I think. Good for me because I like the alliance One, but I do think it is not in the interest of Teden. Anyways, that is why I like this war.
I'm sad for one thing, i sew in several articles --) Look ebelgium is not neutral.
It is wrong, we are neutral and with your attack, we made mpp to defend our country.
Don't speak about money, the goal of your invasion was the bonus and more regions.
But it's a game and i hope we will find a solution.
@Auggustus : you are the president of this country, and a gamer like others, you are not god.
eBelgium is not your toy. Have fun.
The whole idea of a war is not to tell your enemy that you are goingt o attack. However, you even had a period of knowing we were going to attack, ie look at the goals 🙂 The belgian citizens can cry all they want 😉 erep is revolverd and based on war. The blind hatred is coming from eBelgium, I asked congress if they wanted war, they voted yes, hnce I am doing the will of my people. I am not the CP of Belgium Im the CP of the eNetherlnads and soon to BE CP of eBelgium 😛
@ ThomasRed
"The huge downside of this war is that you pushed us into ONE arms, blacklisting us from TEDEN while we are neutral and had TEDEN mpps for months... Not that fun as we will have to deal it with it in the furure... "
Stop lying about eBE is not pro-ONE. I will not name names but high ranking experienced eBEers in gov (not Shadowist people) states in private that eBE is pro-ONE. eBE are best buds with eUK and ePoland. Even since the policies of the Mittkemuis admin, eBE is not neutral. Why do you continue to false pretense of neutrality and join ONE already?
@Elynea
You do not know thyself. It matters now what you think of yourself. It is more important for what the international community thinks about you. I find it ironic that TEDEN countries as a whole finds eBE to be Pro-ONE. This is not just a Dutch thing.
Also why blame Auggy. Auggy have experience. More experience then you and Goopypants. The behavior and policies of Auggy is much better than that of yourself and Goopy. Goopy is not God. But sadly the citizens of eBE is his play thing. Goopy thinks the Dutch are his play thing with his silly "treaty" but now I think it will turn around and bite him back. Time is not on eBelgium's side with so many internal and external problems. eBE needs better governance.
hahaha the war of blablabla we are the best lol : P
@Auggy, in a real war, of course. But isn't this war for fun? How can you expect eBelgium to be just thrilled that you thrust a war upon us? We were fine with Van Spijck's idea of a TW, though. You chose to invade instead.
Blind hatred is not coming from eBelgium. eBelgium hates the war and we want the Status Quo Ante Bellum. It is the Dutch who are calling for our annexation. It is the Dutch who want war. We are peaceful people forced into war to fight for our very existence.
@Konrad
You wont name names because no such people exist. If you must know, I'm the most "Pro-ONE" person in the eBelgian Government because I actually suggested opening up to ONE for protection in the war. It was after the First Wipe, btw. I was, of course, shot down. There is no one in the eBelgian Government so base that they would leak information of our Private Forum. You are a liar.
Also, we're not BFFs with Poland. We actually fought against them to help liberate the eNetherlands when it was occupied. Hell, I haven't seen us ever contact the Poles ever in the Private Government Forum except to get the recent MPP. As for the eUK, every nation has friends. Just because one of our friends happens to be Pro-ONE doesn't mean they're not our friend.
Moving on, no, many of them don't. Before word got out that EDEN nations weren't to MPP eBelgium because it went against the alliance we were getting plenty of MPPs. Many of them, Finland and China for example, would create/renew their MPPs with us, except EDEN wont let them. TERRA generally finds us to be neutral with exceptions from the eUS and eCanada. eUS because Oblidge is an idiot, eCanada because we're BFFs with the English.
For instance, we easily got an MPP with Russia and some other TERRA country I'm forgetting.
(Another comment because of the character limit.)
@Konrad
We should blame Auggy because this war is his fault. Hell, we both got along fine before the war started. We were friends, to an extent. It is HIS fault that our treasuries are being drained daily. It is HIS fault our relations are so soared that we could well become the next Croatia-Serbia. It is HIS fault that eBelgium now sits on the brink of becoming a ONE nation.
And why does it matter that he has experience? Experienced people can make dumb decisions. Inexperienced people can make good decisions, too. It's by no means binding.
Goopy has behaved well. He has offered you White Peace, which you so rudely declined in the name of War. It is Auggy who has not behaved well, instead sending insulting peace offers to our honest government. And while Goopy is not God, he is a damn good CP. For it being one of his first times in leadership, having a new administration full of many new people, and being thrown into War and PTO Threats so quickly, Goopy is a good CP.
That is crazy. In point of fact, Goopy will be remembered as one who rose above the deceit, the nonsense, and the ambition. And brought about stability and peace. This, I promise.
eBelgium has no internal problems. Sure a few people dislike each other, but the ages of Wardists and Shadowists are over. They both lost. Instead, it has become the eBelgians who rule eBelgium. The infighting is gone, may it never return.
As for our external problems, the Dutch caused them. And to a lesser extent the Polish PTOers. If not for Auggy, eBelgium would currently be expanding its social welfare programs and helping its people. Because of Auggy, we can't do that now. Instead, we have to spend like 4/9ths of our income on the War.