[UA-RO] Few words from ukrainian community ... before war starts.
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You all know that during last year there were always frendly relations between eUkraine and eRomania. The rent agreement was good for both sides and there were no conflicts between us. Or … even if there were some , we always solved them with dyplomacy ( but not declaring war on each other ) In this article we would like to bring to eRomanian community some facts, about what happend and where did this conflikt come from.
Everything has begun from the Resources Wars. The day before they started both governments gathered together to make a plan how we act during the wars. The plan was built together and was approved by both sides. But during the Wars the situation has changed.
We won’t try to change your goverments decision, but we just want the romanian community to know what is the real policy of your goverment.
During the Resources Wars there was a small conflict between Georgia and Romania. All about resources of course. By the end of Wars eRomania has 80% of the new resources 60% wood 80% weapons 80% food bonuses. That means that eRomania needs only 5 resources to get 100 % in all types of bonuses. 4 of them are placed in the neighbor countries. In our opinion your government understood clearly that eUkraine will not give a pass to other countries and will not make another rent agreement. So, your government made that pseudo conflict without real reasons … just to claim that eUkraine is guilty and declare war on us. What are the reasons that your government showd us ?
eUkraine had a TW with Turkey as you may know and we did not control the moment when this country entered our western regions that were under rent agreement between our countries. During 2 days when those regions were under Turkeys control no one from eRomanian side tryed to contact our government ( because all this was good for them as pretext for war, we think ). Does eRomania really think, our plan was to ask Turkey to take control on those regions, to destroy relations between our countries and begin a war between us ? Seriously ? That would be madness and your government must be really dreamy to believe in this plan. Few days before this conflict eUkraine’s CP made small referendum where he asked citizens about the future of rent agreements. All of them answered that they want to continue good relations with eRomania and rent agreement.
That what your government named as “ ultimatum” … was just request to finish the TW and return all the regions as it was in agreement. Rented regions - to eRomania, others to us. Simple logic, isn’t it ? The Resource Wars are almost finished.
But what eRomanian government does now in fact?
It says that there was an agressive plan of our country against eRomania, declares war on us, turning two good neighbors into enemies. Declares that it will occupy our regions. Taking 100 % food this way. Then it is going for eGeorgian bonuses to occupy it also and get 100 % wood and weapons. Smart enough, isn’t it ?
The only problem is … next time, eRomanian goverment wants to take some regions and some bonuses from their friends, it should have some balls and tell us “ We want your bonuses and will take what we want by force.” There will be no questions and stupid discussions. And for sure it should not make this type of circus … looking for pseudo reasons for war, showing eUkraine as some untrusted partner who destroys the agreement just for joke. This looks just ridiculous.
We say - Be a good partner, or have some courage to declare war honestly.
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[UA-RO] Few words from ukrainian community, before war starts.
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eUkraine is a sovereign country and as such it is their decision whether or not they want to renew a contract, even if they propose different terms. The Romanian article that ended with insults to the eUkrainian CP is shameful. This is the moment when it becomes clear to everyone that Romania never treated Ukraine as an equal partner.
For years my country and Ukraine used to be adversaries, but at least we were both open about it. I am glad to see that this has normalized now and we do have a working agreement. You get a lot further in life when you have the decency to respect the other players.
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cum se spune in ungureste "mortii ma-ti" ?
Wow, can't even begin to tell how scared I am because of your threats. Ooooh. Aaaah. Help me!
znayshlusya losi sho tobi viryat', molodec'!))))
Nice try ))
Where did you get invitation to this party?
deal with mnogohodovochka!
All about the money)
Румынская дипломатия: в жопу раз или вилкой в глаз.
if you need Ukrainian and Georgian bonuses, have the honor to say about it!
read my comment below regarding your deer region.
then why romanians are fighting for Georgia against Turkey?
http://www.erepublik.com/en/military/battlefield-new/80007
and what is the sense for this law?
http://www.erepublik.com/en/main/law/Romania/176722
TW, bonuses?
Well your CP PuzIk said about all romanian people: romanian people are very smart...
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I think Romania was to good the last time to your country 🙂
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well very smart is for me not a compliment right ? 🙂
Decide for yourself , Think a little. You can do it 😁)
So ? any idea ?
context is not important😉
This article is a piece of crap ... unsustainable data, missinformed, etc.
The days before the Resource War started, your gov ASKED for a triple rent. Romania had no other choice than to accept (and also paid for that), not to upset 2-3 ppl in the UKR GOV who were pushed by zdlemmy, their good friend, to ask for a triple rent. We asked to negotiate AFTER the event, they refused. We had no other choice than to accept, otherwise our needed bonuses wouldn't have been placed where we needed them.
So who forced that agreement ?
Also, Romania can't get 80 on any resource, that would mean to have the very rare and not to have te uncommon. Read the rules and check the table with resources/percents.
Romania doesn't break agreements to have a resource by force, so Romania won't keep the DEER region of Ukraine (Donbas).
The rest of the article : useless crap from an uninformed person.
What relation rent is a request to stop training the war?
Storming eGeorgian region right now, you will still lie about you did not plan this and did not fuck our agreement , won't you ? I don't know what was there about triple rent. This was idea of last ukrainian CP. I don't know how he did it and what were you speaking about them. He did not inform our community about it. But your government signed it. Now you just blow up all the agreements yourself. This is not about CPs, this is about making our people enemies to each other.
You are not good politician. Not wise one. You see only what is around you right now and do no able to make some sort of plan for future. Such a pitty.
Whenever you want to talk, we are on IRC, ready to explain what you don't know.
Maybe you know some things, maybe you don't know others.
Since this month we only talked to your CP (and only ingame, with big delays), maybe you all should sit, talk, without publishing everything into the press.
Shame on Romania!
pe tine cine te-a muscat de dos?
Romania never invaded a neighbour until the XX'th centhury. Till then our neighbours invaded us for no any good reason. It is time for revenge. USSR prosecuted romanians and stolen our national treasury. Shame on our neighbours! Because our neighbours ignored our common beliefs and cultures to form peace and alliance as an orthodox brotherhood. This is the truth. Also this is a way about how both countries could dissapear in the same time over few decades. Make NAP first, then friendship. But let us our ancestors's lands back.
a lot of lies and propaganda.
facts: since the agreement with Romania, Ukraina enjoyed a long period of stability and peace. before is was just a erase after another by Hungary. croatia and turkey cant protect you
good luck Ukraina, if you want war, you will have one
Ukraine want war ... ? are you crasy or something ? Look around ... you declared war at us to get to Georgia, but your goverment do not even have balls to name it as it is. We have no problem, we will fight if you make us your enemies. But you starts this ... not us.
USSR is gulty for all of this warmly propaganda. Let be peace.
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man, ukraine must decide if it is on Romania side or not. asking for triple rent is not what we name good neighborous
If it brings 3x the money for Romania, they can ask for triple rent. I see nothing wrong with that
only if !!!
but they dont bing 3 times more money !!!
1) rent taxes
2) they asked before tournament (because we need their help)
Wow, so they can't decide the prices on their own regions? 🙂
Who decides how much they can ask for? You?
It's like saying Apple can't ask more than $200 for an iPhone...
you eat shit. how many times have you tried to conquer Ukraine?! how many times we fought for them against you?! all of a sudden, cheater and liar Azure is taking side with Ukraine. they already told you: crawl under your bed. either they will fight or have peace, they don't need your "help"!
First of all, moderate yourself. Secondly, yes, we have been at war with Ukraine a lot of times but we have always respect them as a sovereign country (and now our relationship is even a lot better). We never thought of them as puppets like you do when you think you can dictate how much they ask for a region. That is a big difference.
I did not ask about the x3 rent, I asked for the closure TW.
if it is a relationship between equals, why shouldn't they ask for whatever they consider fair? how about ukraine asking romania about renting your cores? It was never a relationship, they were vassals and you complain about vassals asking for money
don't be stupid. it was either agreement to rent regions to a friendly country (and to have Congress if needed) or to be erased by Hungary or Russia.
so it was to become a romanian vassal instead of being erased right?
vassal?! how you come up with that idea?! the regions were rented (we paid for them) and Ukraine agreed to that. we also have regions rented from Belarus. are they also vassals?! in your opinion all countries who rented regions are others vassals?! then it will be better for you to stay erased, just not to be so humiliated in the future and to became vassals...
Everything was fine when they rent their regions at the price you want. They now want more, you disagree, they want to finish the renting. And then you declare war to them.
A country is a vassal if they cant choose by themselves. Like Ukraine. They have to choose between renting regions at the price you want or get destroyed by your superior firepower.
Dear Chuchi, you are talking pure nonsense. Please at least try to see who declared war to whom and only after that come here and bother us with analyses...
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hope our goverments ( UA & RO ) solve this because .... WW 3 is coming out from this new resources campaign .... and long friendships value more then gold in these times ....