[TNT] To 100/100 or not to 100/100
Chucky Norris
Cunning politician or simply a madman, history will be the judge of what will be remembered of the short presidency of Civil Anarchy. However, I'd like to talk about his latest move to release our spanish colony which we're providing us with Bonus.
As a disclaimer, I'd like to make it very clear that I was against this idea from the start, so you might find this article biased. At least now you know what to expect. I tried to convince my fellow congressman about the erorrs of this solution ever since we started to talk about it. So now it is the American community that I will try to preach to.
The main reason we we're given for the release of these region was that we we're under PTO threat from ONE and EDEN and that should we lose our bonus, it would make it easier since a great portion of the ''undersirable'' would leave. However, I don't think that this will happen and I list a few reasons why and also an analysis of the direct outcome.
First, The US has a natural 40/60 Bonus, unless we plan on losing these region, we will never go beyond that measure. And even then, it is not said that we will even come close to the 40/60. We currently have 100/100 which will go to a 80/80 with the loss of Navarra and Asturias. One can wonder however why we will not lose as well the region of Aquitaine which belongs to France, (favoritism to the spaniard heh?) but that's for another debate. If you add to this that we would also lose both our Mexican and Indonesian region, we would be down to 60/60.
I'd like now to go around and check the greatest immigration population home country ressource bonus:
Romania (20/60)
Croatia (60/40)
Greece (80/80)
France (0/60)
Serbia (40/100)
Canada (40/60)
Bulgaria(0/0)
Hungary (80/80)
FYROM (80/100)
It is common knowlege that mostly EDEN citizens come here for the Bonus, but where will they go after? China? This country is even more restrictive than almost any country around, so I doubt anyone will get a free pass there. Brazil? Brazil has shutted it's door close to any EDEN citizens quite some time ago. About the ONE citizens that are here, I doubt they we're here for the bonus in the first place, since most of their citizens had already substantial bonus at home, and not a single ONE citizen has been approved legally by IES, unlike the majority of TEDEN citizens. This fact should be significant in regards to their intention.
I doubt that EDEN citizen will go anywhere else, maybe aside from Greece, because the situation here is still better than in their home country. As for the ONE citizens, they came here and we're brought in by AJAY and friends, don't mistake their intention, they will not go away at all.
Many have argued my logic, but I simply think that losing bonus is not enought to lose citizens, or simply that we're not willing to lose that many bonus to make it possible for immigrants to consider leaving the country. Should we really want to lose citizens, I would argue that you would need to go to a level of 40/40 at least. Are we willing to go that low? I don't think so, and half measures won't give you much more than half the results you expected.
Imo, the only feasible solution is the FEC taking charge of finding blockers for everyone in the election because party obviously can't be trusted with this because so many PTOer got in on the ballot last month. And keep the pressure every 15th of the month so that we can keep control of the top5 party. That's what I feel is the only thing we can do to really stop the problem. And it won't go away right now. It will take time, but if we succeed month after month, they will get tired and move on.
And I'd like to talk about the economic consequence of such action. With the loss of production, we can expect shortage of weapons, which should probably take a toll on the weapon and food price. Beware newbs, you're in for a rought one! I expect independant MU to be hitted hard by these changes, like Easy Company and the JCS affiliated MU. I myself belong to the USMC and I believe that we will have more problem in supplying ourself effectively due to the fact we don't take any extra's from the government. So yeah, I'm preaching for my MU!
Will the USAF be affected as well? Probably, they have been supplied like crazy for the past months and I don't think they are equipped to face a loss in production in their commune. What will they do? Either request more funding or cut on supplies. The last option would likely have effects on our national damage output. However if the government simply patch the issue by increasing the funding, where will they take the money? TU2RU? The tank up to rank up program started by Israel Stevens will take a solid hit should they need the money for the USAF. Because you can't simply create magic money around for the new budget. Someone will have to take a hike in regards to these.
This move of releasing our bonus may be seen as a bold move because it was never attempted before. Just like Blowing up your own supply line in the middle of war has never been done before. I don't think anyone would call that genius however.
For better or worst, we're going down a path of losing our economic strenght in an attempt to limit the PTO attempts that we have on our own country. Only time will tell if this was indeed a great move or something that really didn't help us in any shape or form.
May plato have mercy on us!
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a los de arriba... melosfo fácilmente
Es un wen artículo, aunque de argumentos un poco débiles, sisi
So what you are saying is you don't agree with what is going on, but you will now blindly follow the decision that was made? Quit being such bitches and actually stand up for something. If you don't like what's going on then take a stand. Don't tell everyone you don't agree with it and then go fight against the USA.
As a real life American citizen I think it's actually embarrassing right now to even be a part of the eUSA. The garbage that comes out of the elite's mouths is a total joke.
This political module is a tough one to control, and you know from what exeprience I am writing, Chucky. Still, it seems worth trying to rally together the allies immigrating to the US for the bonuses and make them see that this is under threat if some ATO support isn't organized.
CA might have the right idea placing pressure on the 100/100 to draw attention to the issue, and it should be used to help secure eUSA politics. Actually removing bonuses would be shooting eUSA in the foot.
voted and congrats on the MMM
I didn´t undertand the Article, write it in Spanish
ONE wants USA weaker. simple as that.
EDEN needs to GTFO of our country. This is the United States of America, not the United Colonies of EDEN. You want to be allies, then remain allies through foreign policy, not PTOing into our country to dictate policy.
I rarely agree with CFovets but in this case I must give him a slow clap
/me slow claps
Well said! I find it unequivocally ridiculous that we would do such a thing. This to be is akin to cutting off one's nose to spite one's face! Losing our bonuses is only going to serve to hurt our armed services and result in reduced potency. What the government wants to do is put a condom on our already deadly apendage.
Neuter the armed services you say? Count me OUT!
man it's not about resources as prio n01,the real question is who let such craze xenophobes to rule this country ?
What CFovetS said x10. Good article though Chucky. I still want to see where this was agreed upon by Congress. Not that Congress does anything....
pto??? you mean there is a credible threat that a majority of elected congressmen will vote to donate the treasury to poland? or steal it? or ......
Political takeover used to mean something pretty concrete and now it seems to be quite elastic, amounting to "someone else gets elected". Chuccky: can you elaborate a bit on the real and the perceived threat?
CFovets, Don't get me wrong, I'm not agreeing at all with what was proposed. But the fact is that the main runners in the next POTUS race all agreed to this. Be it AA or Israel Stevens. I'm not sure what Denis MV positions are.
What can a man do against it when the populace elect people who have such goals?
If we had a treaty of rent agreement signed by the congress, then yes we could have done something against it. And I've been pretty vocal about it not being the solution in the past.
PTO do enemies, not friends.
So, any statement that EDEN citizens wanna do PTO of USA is pure lie.
All is about propaganda of small group of people so call elite which wanna trade friends for more power in ER. Like making alliance with Serbia, Hungary, Poland.
So, I don't by that crap propaganda. For God sake why friends wanna piss friends, there is no any logic.
Great article mate!
It seems that its impossible to get the China Citizenship. Should I show my American Visa to get the American Virtual Citizenship?
Olivermellors,
A PTO is what the current administration is judging it to be. That's what I'll call the closest definition to reality these days.
Its blatantly obvious that all of these moves are being made to bring USA to ONE...
EDEN citizens are here just for bonuses, and 99% of them never even thought of TO-ring USA, while ONE citizens are rallying up in USA just for the TO..
if USA loses those EDEN/pro-eden (mind you 4 years old allies) voters, you are in for one hell of a ride with serbians,hungarians,bulgarians etc , just look at their comments at DOD and civil article, they are bursting with joy... good luck USA..
😁😁😁^
agreed. A bit like McCarthy's communists and fifth columnists or RL america's terrorists - the bogey man
Bit of a factual inaccuracy, we have a natural 60/40, not 80/60. Cattle, Aluminum, Fruit, Grain and oil. Everything else comes from mexico, france, or spain. So yes, taking us down to the bare essentials would put many countries above us on your list.
And considering in the last three days I found out Greece, Romania, and France ALL have information from private congress, this is not a 'boogyman hunt.' As a socialist, it's funny to hear me called McCarthy.
They are releasing Spain, they want EDENites out, they know they are not going to lose lots of ONEs, they are just going a step closer to (ex)ONE, just don't have the balls to admit it.
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"And considering in the last three days I found out Greece, Romania, and France ALL have information from private congress"
again putting a bad light on only eden/pro-eden countries, how obvious can you be ?
Civil Anarchy... You think it's new that private congress discussions are leaked? Ever since the forums existed leaks have without a doubt been happening. People just don't care now if you find out. It should be fairly common knowledge that there will be leaks.You act like this is some new phenomenon related to a PTO.
ca: socialist are not immune to political ambition, its tools, or irrationality. The ostensible purpose of a Takeover is the weakening of America's physical presence, its industrial capacity and its wealth. Your policy achieves all of that. It achieves little else: just like McCarthy's snipe hunt or the present obsession with 98 year old grammas at the airport, dirty bombs and non-existent voter fraud.
The fact that the information is leaked only by TEDEN countries does not mean that ONE countries don't have access to those.
By the way, Zelja has a point. You would never see a law proposal of donating $400.000 to Greece National Bank, however, with this move, in just a few months eUSA will be a ONE puppet and all funds in the treasury will begin flowing into ONE banks.
@Civil, whoops, I realised that earlier but I didn't adjusted everywhere.,I edited that out, and the 60/60 was more referring to our naturals +aquitaine.
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The PTO we need to prevent is the EDENites who win election and influence our affairs to the benefit of EDEN instead of the eUSA. These people came here for bonuses and they will leave. One Greek MU comes to mind. They suck up our bonuses and get elected to congress and influence our affairs.
Its sad that so many Eden/One groups are trying to PTO the USA, that RL Americans like myself are stuck with foreign citizenship and can't regain it without paying PTO congressmen gold. Which I refused to do.
If Eden really valued are friendship they wouldn't try to send droves of PTO'ers here and try keep THEIR interests secured. . Ever heard of the saying" If you really like someone, you have to let them go" ?
Not PTO our Nation and keep us for damage and Bonus's!!
If anyone doubts that we are being PTO'd, please go to the country administration page and look at the people that have been approved for citizenship and who is approving them.
The POTUS papers will be in Serbian if we do not change something soon.
If everyone really has America's interest at heart, then they will still be here when we lose our bonuses. I trust that Eden will stand by eAmerica as we fight of this threat.
Of course HisAirness doesn't buy it. He's Croatian.
morningblur... you fail to understand that they are no more "your" affairs than they are theirs. Just because people have a different opinions on things than you does not make it a PTO. It just means there is a shift in the ideals of the population. NO ONE IN THE eUSA IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN ANYONE ELSE. Why can't you understand that? Just like in the real USA, everyone here can have their opinion. No one decides what decision or action is right or wrong. You are not special. Deal with it.
As I see it myself, eUSA has no goals right now. This lowering our bonuses policy will hinder our damage output and I am sure we will not recover from this, unless they have plans (a treaty maybe) in place already to gain those lands back after a while. Also, I think Mvcakir and CFovetS both have a point, its not like congress meetings are private, people will always find a way to get the information, since information is power.
Are all gov's elected in eUSA a PTO? First Glove, now CivilAnarchy. make up your mind America.
I have to say, this is a very good remark:
c224 Day 1,748, 15:39
If Eden really valued are friendship they wouldn't try to send droves of PTO'ers here and try keep THEIR interests secured. . Ever heard of the saying" If you really like someone, you have to let them go" ?
Not PTO our Nation and keep us for damage and Bonus's!!
I like EDEN and its members, and I disagree with moves towards Poland, but EDEN has to understand that Americans are feeling like they don't have agency. (cont)
I'm sure that if EDEN moves its citizens out of the USA, then certain political leaders will feel safer, and then they won't be able to scapegoat EDEN for our problems.
A little caution and common sense goes a long way on both sides.
But, what the hell do I know.
does anyone know for certain anything anymore
Vanek knows how to keep teh peasant silent!
@Liquid Oxigen:
Yes, I am in real life Croatian, but in ER I am American since January 27. 2010. when I become US Marine.
I was commandant of the Marines more then one and half of year. In time when USMilitary was official state military. Also I was vice chairman of JCS.
So, I did for America more then You 100 times. And You have no rights and anyone else to measure who is American and who is not.
Have good day sir !
I really don't care any more : ) 2 days ago asturias was CoD all day long while important battles were going on.. Everybody talking about EDEN PTO... but only thing sure is - ONE PTO...
You, America, are going to become serbian slave country and their income bringer... just wait and you will see..
this was only the beginning...
http://www.erepublik.com/en/main/law/USA/113398
And i bet those who voted yes for this law aren't EDEN PTOers
CFovetS, you are wrong. eUSA affairs are my affairs. I have played for eUSA my whole time in eRepublik. All in all I spend at least one hundred dollars a month on this game, sometimes up to two hundred. I have been with my ecountry through the good and bad. I'm not a parasite who flocked here for bonuses and got elected to congress so I could influence eUSA affairs to benefit the country I was from. I am a real life American and an eAmerican so yes I matter more than EDEN players here.
EDEN players say they are our allies. If they are they sure don't show it. I have no problem if they come here for bonuses. Stay the hell out of politics though. If you want a congress medal then go home and win one. Real allies don't interfere in an ally's business. We can't even think of a new idea here without these parasitic EDENites in our congress leaking info to their "real" countries and spamming our media. For Dio's sake EDEN has no business running our country.
lol...
first Reagan said "all immigrants are my brothers" and then a socialist said "immigrants are enemies of the state and must leave"!
Where is this world heading anyway? 😛
US government orders are fight for Spain in Asturias ?
Suppose Spain is allies ?
Same people who call Spaniards "disgusting pigs" allied with Spain now and government orders are to figh for Spain against Portugal who was yesterday allies ? WTF ?
Most interesting is that Spain do not need at all Asturias, they have iron resource in Castila region. xD
"Great allies" demand Asturias back from "friends" ? WTF ?
kids... xD
You are right Chucky. Even if we loose these bonuses (?) we will still have better situation then most of EDEN countries. Nobody (or very few) will leave.
And something about "countries sending their players to PTO eUSA"... bulls*it!
I don't know any player that is sent here by his county. Players come here on their own and will leave our country on their own. Nobody can force them to go... neither we, neither their home county.
U.S. citizens are divided into two streams, proEDEN and proCTRL. In this situation, the majority has proEDEN current. To ensure the supremacy proCTRL power is needed to bring citizens from proCTRL countries. You also need to reduce the number of people from EDEN countries to weaken stationed proEDEN current. In doing so, they will use. The administration can not make a sudden turn for the majority of citizens who are against the change in American foreign policy and alliances.