The Truth about Pakistan A/S and what really happened
N W G
I recently had to write in a reply in a Pakistan Governement article, a defence to walking out on talks with them. It seems in a way to gain help and support they would try and say anything.
I wont use a official Government paper with this article because i dont want slander the Good name of the people of Pakistan, but at the same time they and their friends need to know the truth of what has happened and what was going on.
So from the start.
I first knew about Pakistan intention to A/S a choice of TWO nations when it was mentioned in our alliance HQ that Pakistan had approach them officially to help and Back a A/S on two countries that was Pro our alliance.
Of course this seems very strange and ridiculous that a nation would seek help from a alliance on countries that was friendly to that alliance.
But i did speak to Belgium before hand to give them a warning that they had been mentioned as a possible target and due to them being a target before it was of course a possible real danger.
Then a few days later i got a mail to confirm the reports was true
http://prntscr.com/3bgj8l
Now as you can see the current MOFA of Pakistan contacted me and advised me of there actions. I of course replied letting them know of our stance and relationship with there target. I did however find it intresting they have supposedly been speaking to some of our other allies. Being USA and Poland.
After brief talks i found out there had not been any official talks if anything just like me a simple reply to a mail if it wasnt even just ignored. So this is the first mail on the issue from Pakistan and i find im already being lied to about events and plans ??
The next Correspondence i received again from the Pakistan MOFA had a bit more information of there plans and intent a few days later.
http://prntscr.com/3bgm5d
Now i read this with a bit more intrest. I can clearly see that that Pakistan are only looking to A/S Belgium because they are looking to move somewhere else. They even informed me they wish Belgium to have congress and thus right now i see no threat so i dont have to act.
However i do find it interesting that he now tells me they are in talks with Chile so they can release regions. Of course curious to where they might be going i seek clarification and find that there has been NO TALKS with Chile and certainly nothing about handing over regions for a path. So ive received 2 mails now from Pakistan MOFA and it seems ive been LIED TO AGAIN. Now at this point im worried about the real reason they A/S is heading to a border of eUK.
From then there was no more contacted. So of course i watched with interest and even asked for my nations mobile fighters to help defend our friends as we didn't have a MPP. After a few days of battles Belgium was down to just 1 region left. I have been informed on IRC. And i will admit i cant prove this as i dont have the Logs anymore. That Pakistans mission and promise was the same.
They said they would still allow congress and would Let a RW win so this could happen. I was told there was talks of a NAP between Belgium and Pakistan and these talks was still going on.
I of course had been speaking to Belgium MOFA recently and was surprised this was not mentioned to me. I spoken to them and they advise there was no talks as they had refused this offer from the start and wanted there lands to be free.
So it seems i had again been lied to or misinformed of the event going on. But alas i still remember the promise to allow RW win for congress and of course they was not there to stay but told me that was moving away !!
Well the attack on the last Belgium region had begun. Myself and Belgium MOFA had discussed about starting a RW incase of defeat so that Pakistan could fulfill its promise and allow Congress. So after a round or two of the MPP not going in Belgium's favour a RW was started in Brussels. It was timed so that the RW would finish after the MPP and after Belgium had been Wiped.
But Alas it was all for nothing, Because the RW that was set up to allow a congress region was infact targeted by the Pakistan Gov for CO's and was pointing people and nations to fight to stop it.
This of course left me in a place i didnt want to be. I had again been lied to, They was working against the RW. This was the only point i had not so far been lied to when telling me of there plans and intentions. And now even that promise had been broken.
I had in one had a Foreign Government who had lied to me in every mail and every promise and in the other Belgium a friend and allie who was asking me for help again.
So as soon as Belgium was wiped and the RW was a sure loss i sent the NE to Pakistan. At the time i didnt want us to have direct conflict with Pakistan but i felt i was left with no options after everything that had gone on before.
Of course not long after i sent the NE i got more mails and messages from Officials and normal players from Pakistan. Here is one from the MOFA again.
http://prntscr.com/3bhaij
As you can see there is some anger about the NE. I of course asked the question quite simply. " why did you not let them win the RW then ? "
The answer i received was compelling. The reason they did not allow it was because Belgium would not sign a NAP. This was at the time all i needed to hear.
To make promises of giving a region for congress and then afterwards to deliberately not give them the region just so you could try and hold them to ransom to sign a NAP in my eyes was a step too far.
I dont think i have ever witness a country make promises and then not delivery so they could use it as a weapon to force agreements. I of course asked my congress to vote in favour of the NE so we could help Belgium as now it seems obvious that Pakistan was not going to keep its promises unless Belgium agreed only to Pakistan Terms and conditions.
Now as soon as it became clear the NE vote was going to pass i got my very First mail From the CP of Pakistan
http://prntscr.com/3bhcrn
Now in his first words he again admitted they promised to give a region, but as Belgium wont agree a NAP they wont give it to them. I see now its not a mistake but it really is a deliberate act to try and force Belgium to agree or not have any regions as promised.
But all is not lost. Because now i have a promise that they will give them the region like they had already promised and broken before. But only if I make them guaranties i will help them force Belgium to a NAP they dont want.
http://prntscr.com/3bheaf
Now as you can see this is my reply to the above mail sent by the CP of Pakistan. I of course had spoken to Belgium MOFA again, asking about the NAP they was offered and they what they wished. I was again told they would not agree to the NAP and Pakistan would not let them have any regions as promised until it was agreed.
So i sent the CP of Pakistan my reply and duly sent the NE attack shortly after.
I tried to explain the reasons why it had come to this. But to be honest no matter what promises i was going to get it had got to the point where i just could no longer trust anything i was being told.
So after speaking to my MOD a plan was made that for us to drag Pakistan out of Belgium and allow the war to be won by RWing the lands away so Pakistan could not use its MPP allies to help them.
I agreed to send the first attack over night so we would lose the first battle on purpose.
At the same time as us fighting, Belgium would start its own RW timed with the UK vs Pakistan battle.
The UK would act as a damage drain and also a drain on the CO's and weapons Pakistan was giving away. With alliance help the RW was a great success. The plan had worked. Belgium finally had a region, they used this now as a chance to send there own NE back at Pakistan giving them another battle to worry about and drain CO and weapons even more/
Instantly another RW was set up and the same plan was to happen again. The UK would act as a drain and have Pakistan and its allies attention while Belgium was allowed to win another RW and take back 2 of the 3 regions it had lost.
Many people questioned the tactics and reasons to why the eUK attacked at its weakest time and Pakistan and its allies strongest time. Well now you can see why. And it worked.
Now as i draw close to the end of this long article i received this mail from Pakistan MOFA near the end of the eUK vs Pakistan first battle.
http://prntscr.com/3bhj3p
Not the most diplomatic of Diplomats but then i didnt care. He was bragging about winning a battle i wanted to lose, He was bragging about a victory that actually meant they lost the war !!
i had woken up the next day and had quite a few mails and IRC message, i was being asked what was going on between the UK and Pakistan. Asking me why i was attacking when i had agreed peace and there was a NAP.
I made it clear there was no NAP, there is and was never any agreement between me and Pakistan Or Belgium and Pakistan. I shows SS to people to prove this was not the case and that i had been lied to as much as they had been lied to aswell. I even had other CP's of countries from my own alliance and other alliances come to me asking me what was going on. Because they had been told there was also a NAP and i was breaking it. Pakistan had even said they had offered Belgium regions in Austria and Denmark to allow Pakistan to stay. Of course no talks had happened, no agreements made let alone other countries agreed to such a move.
Well im sorry this article is so long but there has been many things that has happened and there has been many lies said and told.
I hope this in some ways clears up alittle of the confusion. My stance still stands i will not have talks with the MOFA of Pakistan, Every mail and promise i received has been broken or contained lies to deceive me.
I still respect the People of Pakistan but recently i have lost alot of respect for its leadership. If from the start they was honest with me and Belgium about their intentions and spoken first before launching the A/S to agree a NAP or told us when the plans had changed the result of this could have been so much different.
But alas i hope they learn from these mistakes. If the people of Pakistan allow them to carry on being in charge that is
So from me thank you and good night
NWG
Comments
Very nice article, read the ePaki article around the time you posted this, and was curios what was going on, this clarify's allot.
Guess ill go and drop some damage for eBe 😉
This government in Pakistan won by making multis.
Hypocrite...
You got that right brother
\o/ NWG, glad you made this article, the truth needed to come out after the whole incident. Thank you to the eUK for being true allies and always standing next to Belgium during a time of need \o/
This is a just war!
Don't stop it until they compensate eBelgium.
Impeach! Unleash the Zombie Horice \o/
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/real-face-of-uk-cp--2393030/1/20
LOL
Major fail
Next time tell their MoFA to speak to Horice.
As belgian CP I would like to thank you for the help you have provided during this war (as well as your team).
Once again, eBelgium is indebted to the United Kingdom, thanks.
And for those who are still wondering, eBelgium has always stated without any doubt that we would refuse to have any agreement with ePakistan as long as they would be on our territories and that we were not willing to have a congress at any cost.
More than happy to stand with you guys on this one. Clear oppertunism and deviousness from the Pakistani government
It's always a pleasure to stand on the same side as eBelgium
Shout out to your bro? 🙁
And disappointed by the language used by MoFA.. unbelievable!
Lolwat. Just as well congress pressed the NE buttons then.
Faris.. isliye kehte hain pehle experience lo, yeh nahin ke foran bhai MoFA bana do CP bana do.. aik do mahiney vMoFA bante banda kuch seekhta hai 🙂
Bhai jo baat krny ho na samny kya kro us waqt tmhry awaz nhi nikalty yaha shuru ho jatey ho r mein ne tm se zada kaam kya huwa hai D.mofa bhi raha ho r cp bhi
mein toh har waqt tumhari bezti karta rehta hun.. tumhein samajh nahin aati toh meri kia ghalti
hahaha samny nhi krta masla yehi hai na kbhi samny kr tw achy jawab bhi miley larkioo k tarah pechy se war krna chor dey
mai tu jab tum nazar athai ho karthoon.
phr uncle ap sunty bhi bht achy ho na ap ka paet kaha bharta hai in cheezo se umar guzar gae harqaten nhi gae 😛
phr uncle ap sunty bhi bht achy ho na ap ka paet kaha bharta hai in cheezo se umar guzar gae harqaten nhi gae 😛
Handled like a pro ~_^
nice article, but ePakistan will be kicked from Belgium as I said. How my nick means, they will feel the death o7
Apart of wars and diplomatic solutions, language used as mentioned about is totally unacceptable.
Respect does matter.
Thanks for your help & your fidelity as allies, United Kingdom!
We're proud of being your friends 😉
Many thanks to eUK and their citizens o7
Horice is better...
Best Regards from Philippines!
o/
voted for transparency
well done.
It seems their MoFA lacks the necessary tact to be a successful diplomat. xD
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Very informative, thanks for bringing this all to light NWG
Gj. o7
A wee bit long article, but worth reading it.
Thanks for sharing this stuff with the public. Thanks UK for the big help. o7
Belgium was clean in this whole ordeal from the beginning, we end it in the same manner. Clean. And proud.
My hope is that enemies will think twice before they AS Belgium again in the future.
The current ePakistan Government is rogue. They have built a nation of multis, forcing many legendary, loyal players out of the country. It is, indeed, a dark day for ePakistan. It's hard to imagine it was once the most extensive, exciting empire in the game.
Talk about being ROGUE. :3
Another victory for DC... can't believe people would question DC tactics.
"Pakistan had even said they had offered Belgium regions in Austria and Denmark to allow Pakistan to stay."
Any SS of this?
I have no Evidence nor do i know who mentioned Austria. And Denmark being mentioned to me direclty as a choice was part of a IRC chat ive admitted i dont have copyies of.
That sounds too stupid, even for them, but nevermind.
Its seems in Darknights Article about the issue he has some admissions about this issue
Apart from all the fight and misunderstanding, as a citizen of ePakistan, after reading both the articles, i accept the fact that our government was at fault... voted!
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-tdk-pakistan-airstrike-from-my-perspective-2393339/1/20
Its sad how things had to end. I still belief everything that happened, happened because of miscommunication and a lot of misunderstandings. It could've been different.
believe*
One thing needs to be mentioned though, about the Belgian RW. You say that ePakistan shouldve let Belgium take the region to express Pakistan's willingness to sign NAP. Then you say Belgium never agree to NAP. So why would ePakistan let them have teh region when they never even agree to the NAP??
I agree there was a lot of miscommunication in this entire episode but this logic is beyond my understanding. If I was the CP and Belgium had expected to let me release their region AFTER refusing the NAP, I too would've put a big CO on the RW to prevent it from being freed.
Your NE on ePakistan and subsequent attack is totally understandable to me. I would've done the same. But you expecting Pakistan to lay down their arms in 'good faith' right after Belgium refused the NAP is unfair and immature.
Anyway, I would again reiterate that there was a lot of miscommunication. It is not my place to scrutinize you or Pakistan because I am not part of the government.
PTI is incapable of doing anything right, as evidenced.