Iran vs Georgia useless battle
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I as one of the most active citizens of Georgia think that our former government did very big mistake, when they started war with EIran. It costed to our country very big amount of resources, I did not even speaking about resources that citizens have spent. As I know, EIran offered that they will not attack our territory and we had to leave Armenian lands, but our government did their best to start war. So today, we have only our lands and besides, we have big chance to fully disappear from map. Thank you our former government, I and my supporters will remember this.
Now I have to offer interesting sentence to our new government: they have to begin more active negotiations with EIran government and save their lands. Only peace is the best choice for both of us.
მე, როგორც საქართველოს ერთ-ერთი ყველაზე აქტიური მოქალაქე მივიჩნევ, რომ ქვეყნის წინა ხელისუფლებამ დაუშვა დიდი შეცდომა, როდესაც მათ დაიწყეს ომი ირანთან. ჩვენს სამშობლოს ბევრ რესურსად დაუჯდა, აღარაფერს ვამბობ იმ ოქროსა და ფულზე, რომელიც მოქალაქეებმა საკუთარი ჯიბეებიდან დახარჯეს. როგორც ვიცი, ირანმა შემოგვთავაზა, დაგვეტოვებინა სომხეთის ტერიტორია, სამაგიეროდ, ისინი არ შეუტევდნენ საქართველოს, მაგრამ მთავრობამ(წინამ) მაინც დაიწყო ომი. ამჟამად სიტუაცია ისეა, რომ ჩვენ ისევ მხოლოდ ჩვენი ტერიტორია გვაქვს და საფრთხე არსებობს, საერთოდ გავქრეთ რუკიდან. დიდი მადლობა ხელისუფლებას ამისათვის. მე და ჩემი მომხრეები არ დავივიწყებთ თქვენს ,,ამაგს".
ახლა მინდა დღევანდელ ხელისუფლებას მივცე რჩევა: სასწრაფოდ დაიწყეთ უფრო აქტიური მოლაპარაკება ირანის მთავრობასთან და გადაარჩინეთ ქვეყანა. მხოლოდ მშვიდობა არის გამოსავალი ორივე მათგანისთვის.
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You are traitor!
Loser Gona Lose !!
იმდენი რესურსი ჩავახარჯეთ სომხეთის აღებას და უბრძოლველად დაგვეთმო? 😃 სწორად მოიქცა მთავრობა მე ვემხრობი წინა მთავრობას o7
o7
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/mission-25-comment-1-2543478/1/20
დამეხმარეთ რა 25კომენტარის მისიაა
shen kvelaze naklebad gakvs xma amosagebi, roca mteli eri ertad isroda shen accounts da resursebs daajeki
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რესურსებს კი არ დავაჯექი, უსარგებლო იყო ბრძოლა 🙂
რას ქვია უსარგებლო იყო??? ხომ ხარ ამ ქვეყნის ერთ ერთი აქტიური მოთამაშე?? ხოდა თავდაცვის სამინისტროს ბრძანება იყო ანუ ამ ქვეყნის არმიის და მოქალაქეების მობილიზაცია გამოცხადდა.. სრული, 100%-ით. ყველა დავიხარჯეთ ... არ გეთანხმები არანაირად შენს სტატიაში... სადაც საომარია უნდა იომოს მთლიანად ერმა და არა რომელიმე პარტიამ ან სამხედრო დანაყოფმა..
ai laviu ❤ sarija
ეს მართლა Pride არი? თუ გაყიდა აქქ?
We didn't attack Iran, they put a NE law against us themselves. That's a fact and we were just defending ourselves. This article is hogwash top to bottom.
T R A I T O R !!! ბარემ პირდაპირ გეთქვა „ერეკლეს მეზარბაზნეებია აღარაჰყავსო“...
it is you, who are traitors, you fought and ignored peoples choice 🙂
hah just fun 😉
კაი რა, ირანი ითხოვდა ომს და მიიღო კიდეც, მომავალში თუ კიდე მოუნდებათ ჩვენ მზად ვართ.. გაიხსენეთ პოლონეთი, ბულგარეთი, ირანი რით არის ამათზე ძლიერი?
I once wanted to get Georgia CS but i was denied.. I honestly think that your country is led by a bunch of noobs that have no sence for foreign politics.
You need to wise up and let players with skill and knowledge run your country or you will be deleted from the map.
Hail Asteria
Hail eIran
Hail eSerbia
If you dont get CS, yes we are noobs... Logical......
Mega Lol 🙂
Well to be honest yes you are.
I am an experienced player and I wanted a change so i applied for georgian CS because its a new country and i wanted to help build a strong country.. I never moved out of Serbia because that would be considered a possible PTO but since Georgia was just added i wanted to start from scratch where all the players are there since day 1 for that country..
But certain "elite" that got their place in Georgia (that fixed admin raffle and some other ways) didnt want any experienced players in (other than their own friends).. That way they wanted to make sure they go unchalenged in every day political life.. Thats the best explanation that I could think off..
I am not on any banlists, I never cheated any single player in my eLife, I am openly against PTO and all sorts of foul play and i had the experience and will.. You lost a good player just because you didnt want any1 questioning your calls.. Now you have a nation in poor condition in every aspect of the word.. And its not just about me, I am only an example.. I wonder how many got rejected like me..
1 year ago, when georgia add in game, i dont remember that fact, because in that time we neded players.. now we have many foreign players, from turkey, ukraine, ...for example now, our MOFA isnt natural georgian, so you are wrong... and we arent in poor condition, look at the map, coutry for a 1 year.
არავის გაერჭო ტრაკში
Well only other explanation is that you where mostly accepting former Sirius members.. Thats a poor call also because these players will always lean against Asteria.. And to be against Asteria is not smart these days.. Especially for a young nation.
Fact is that people who got in got to pick who will get accepted.. So groups of people formed.
Its like I am in at day 1 and of course I accept my friends and countrymen and the condition is their support.. So now you have people wih support of a significant number of people regardless of their knowledge and results.. So if your MOFA fails he will still have good support.. And if you had an equal number of players from all sides and the nation was a real mix of people than the best will have to emerge.
You can't be the peace dove in this game, you have to choose the side, since the creation Turkey has helped us with everything they could so on the day we betray them will be the day we will betray ourselves.
We were created a year a go with just 120 players since then we are probably only country in the history of this game who has never been deleted from the map for more than a week, maybe 2. Does that still make us noobs?
Since when does Georgian people consider themselves Turkish?
Turks have had the majority of people in the first population and thats why they brought more in.. So you will be a puppet of Turkey. If you had the majority of Serbian players you would be a puppet of Serbia.. Oh wait.. We dont play like that.. Look at Thailand. They have their own politics and friends.. But if you had people from many different nations than your moves wouldnt be pro this or pro that but they could be the moves that are in the best interes of Georgia. That is my point.
Btw them Turks made sure that people who have different views dont get in.. People that have good strenght/damage, and good skills.. You call that helping Georgia? Ok than..
We're not considering ourselves Turkish, we're considering ourselves as the Georgian People who is the ally of Turkey.
Majority of people? right after the creation we did 2 baby booms and we had almost 3000 Georgians added in the game? do you really think majority of them were from Turkey? There were many threats of PTO from different nations but nobody ever succeeded because there were way more Georgians then anyone else.
As for Turkey, they and many our allies helped us survive from the Bulgarian invasion, Russian Invasion, Polish Invasion, Argentinian Invasion.
BTW we'll never forget the Serbia was the first country who signed MPP with us but overall ProSirius countries saved us from being deleted from the map many times, so that's why no matter what we'll never change the side.
We were not applying new citizens, cause we were aware of PTO, so we trusted only Ukrainian citizens. If you are experienced player u must understand that.
After a incident that happened with eBulgaria (i mean that they tried to control our country they had couple of congressmans and they had open CS-s for more eBulgarian players) we were not applying nonnative citizens.
About our foreiign politics, Iran just wanted war and they were searching for reason and they found it in eArmenia, they told us that we have no right to take eArmenia cause of contract with Turkey, which meant non-agressive against Iran, but Armenia were free and we just took free lands, so we did not broke contract. they forced us to leave eArmenia kinda we are none, they did not even explained why, they just told us to leave armenia or they will fight with us, that was Offensive by iran, of course we did not left Armenia, cause they insulted us with such an acts. they acted like we are no one, kinda we are colony and we don't have right to conquer lands for some bonusess, they are exactly the kids you are talking about. I have nothing more to say.
I didnt apply for CS after a long period of time but at the very start so there was no probable cause for fear of pto.. Btw if you decided not to trust serbs at the very start of the game but to trust turks and ukraine that tells that you either had relations prior to creation of Georgia (because you cant have Georgian allies before Georgia was ever on the map).. That says the the first players to lead Georgia decided they want Ukrain and Turkey in their country and not Serbia or Hungary or whatever.. So that opinion and attitude was premade.. Serbia accepted MPP and that states we are not biased to any country in the world (if we didnt have bad experience with them from the past) and yet you where biased towards Serbian players early on the game (or most Asteria nations).
So we where open handed and you where??
You keep talking about things that happened like 2-3 months or whatever and I am talking of events that happened in the first week or so.. Maybe even the first 2-3 days (the time when getting a CS was teoritacaly available).
You have no valid reason to be biased towards Serbia or Serbian players (or Hungarian or Slovenian or of any nation) since your country just got created by admin and none of these nations didnt have any chance of doing anything wrong to you.
That clearly states that your first players , for some reason, decided they dont want nations i mentioned and yet they want Turkey and Ukraine (and it seems Bulgaria).. Why was that the case?
You cant say Turks helped (because you just got put on the map and there was no chance for that) or that Serbia did something wrong to you.. So if your first wawe of players is pro Sirius (contra Asteria) and they dictate politics of Georgia being ally of lets say Turkey you can only expect of getting Turkish help and no help from enemies of turkey..
Its simple..
So we go back to:
1.First Georgian players didnt want any citizens that will chalenge their own personal opinion.(Politics made by the very first and it doesnt reflect the best options for Georgia but only best options for the mentioned players)
2.First people in Georgia where biased against Asteria and only let Sirius players in and that way they made Georgia an enemy of Asteria since day 1 of the game for Georgia convicting all the future Georgian players (especially the RL ones) to premade politics and limited choices.
Its either no1 or no2 or both..
I was the part of that first political team and I can assure you there was absolutely no bias or hatred against Serbia or Asteria, reason? because we had no idea where to start, we didn't really care about the political situation in the world or we cared about was to build a foundation for the country.
Ukrainians were only people we trusted that's because of our friendship in RL and it has nothing to do with the game, there was no single doubt about them. That automatically made us proSirius country.
Turkey helped us to free our land from Bulgaria and since then they've never betrayed us, they've never tried to erase us or demand anything, I've been in government for a while now and I've never had a single problem with any member of Turkish government.
As I said I have nothing against Serbia, when we were running around begging big guys to give us an MPP Serbia was the one who did it. We respect that, but we are loyal people and we don't betray our friends.
I think I was on the MOFA chat when your CP or MOFA or who ever he was came and asked to talk to some1.. I think i had a status on MOFA chat since i was minister of something like education or propaganda or in the interior afairs so the guy aproached me first with the question (Since i was active in that moment).. Or maybe it was Armenia.. Not sure.. Doesnt matter..
What you just told me fits in with what i have experienced and what my opinion was (maybe not 100% ).. But its a bit of a noobish move on your part.. You had a chance to get strong players that could aid Georgia a lot and if you have like 5-6 people from Serbia and also 5-6 people from like 20 more nations there is no danger from PTO because you will have 150 foreign players but no significant group of them and its not possible to be ptoed in that scenario.. If pro-sirius ones go for PTO the ones from Asteria will be against and with you domestic population you can win, same goes for the other way around.. And if you are paranoid 2 much you cant progres.. You chouldnt see a ptoer in every1..
Both noobs 😃
aq puris sacxobad aravinaa mosuli xandaxan omic kargia tan rom gaimarjveb,aba rogori siamovneba iyo roca meorec movuget?tu vinmes ar gaxsovt shegaxsenebt.
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ხელისუფლებამ იგეთ უნდა გადაგიხადოს მადლობა "ამაგი"-სთვის. ამით შენ ზიანი მიაყენე ესაქართველოს მთელ მოსახლეობას.
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მეტს არაფერს გეტყვი.
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ძაან სწორად მოვიქეცით... ირანისგან შემოთავაზება კი არა მუქარა იყო და თითო სიტყვაზე თუ ტერიტორირბი ვთმეთ ხვალ აღარ ვიქნებით. ომში კიდე ყოველთვის იხარჯება რესურსი. თანაც არაფერი დავაკელით ირანს და ესე ხელ წამოსაკრავად აღარ გვიყურებენ. მსოფლიო ქვეყნებიდანაც ბევრს შეეცვალა ჩვენს ძალაზე აზრი. ომის დაწყების დროს ცოტახანი მეც მომიწია დავდაცვის მინისტრობა და მე პირადად მეამაყება რო ესე მოვიქეცით. რუკიდან ვინ გაქრება კიდე ჯერ საკითხავია.
მშიშარაააა :დდდდ
well said
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ეს ექაუნთი ირანელმა იყიდა ? თუ ვინმე სომეხია მფლობელი ? რატო შენ ქართველების ღვაწლს წიხლში ტრაკი კარი ? ეს ომი ისე დავიწყეთ როგორც 2008 წელს... აქტიური არ ვიცი მე არ გამიგია შენი აქტიურობა შენი აცცდან გამომდინარე კი კარგად გემჩნევა როგორი აქტიურიც ხარ 37კ ძალა თან დ1 და საქართველოსთვის 90 მილიონი დემეიჯი გაქ :3 ამით ყველაფერი ნათქვამია
კაცმა არ იცის მართლა არ შეგვიტევდა თუ არა ირანი და მართლა თუ არ გავქრებოდით რუკიდან ..
გეორგივესკის ტრაქტატის პონტია , ეხლა რო გამოდიან "ექსპერტები" არ უნდა დაედო ერეკლეს ტრაქტატიო და აყვავდებოდა ქვეყანაო , ეხლა ადვილი სათქმელია , მაშინ სხვა სიტუაცია იყო და ვამართლებ რაც ვქენით , როგორც მინიმუმ დავანახეთ მსოფლიოს რო მიკუებით ვერ აიღებენ ქართულ მიწებს .
ეტყობა გიჭირს ომის მერე და ჰა შენ 5 ლარი 😉
Voted 🙂
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