E-Eestlus on surnud.
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by Dodo Moron
Eelmise nädala lõpus tõmbas E-Eesti meediasae käima RTG otsus Erepist lahkuda.
Sellega on nagu on. Otsus, mida mõistame kõik. Külla aga on kogu kaasus tõstatanud küsimuse. Mis saab e-eestlusest üleüldiselt?
Üritan lühidalt praeguse olukorra kokku võtta ning samuti esitada küsimusi, et veidike uurida, mida arvavad seisust e-eestlased.
E-Eesti Vabariiki on juhtinud juba pikemat aega ER ja üks selle juhtfiguuridest, Mixliarder. See, kas Mix on CP või minister ei oma antud olukorras tähtsust. Poliitika, mida aetakse on suures plaanis ikka tema seatud. Nii ongi E-Eesti korraga ma ei tea ja ei huvita ka mitmes treeningsõjas.
KAS TEIE MEELEST ON TREENINGSÕJAD E-EESTILE JA/VÕI TEILE KASULIKUD?
Kui teile pole, siis kahju. Mixliarderile on, aga ärge selles teda süüdistage. Selles, et enam-vähem kõik riigid täiesti kontrollitud ja reguleeritud sõjategevuses on, on süüdi Erep. Ja Pakkimine. Mix on põhimõtteliselt ainus E-Eesti alaline kodanik, kes mängib pakkidega. Kulude tasa teenimiseks on ainus meetod sarimedaldamine. Ja selle probleemi on esile kutsunud arendajad.
KAS TEIE KASUTATE EREPI MÄNGIMISEL PAKKE?
Tõenäoliselt on vastus ei. Igal juhul pakkidega avanevad igasugused saatanast võimalused. Enim kõneainet peaks pakkuma võimalus vahetada lahingus divisjoni. Siiski, madalamas divisjonis on mängija tugevuse arvutamiseks mingi metoodika, mis mängu rikkuma ei peaks, aga…
Aga on see, et rikub. Valmistuge valgustuseks. Maailmas on levinud praktika, et pakkijatel on kasutamiseks võrdlemisi tugevad madalama leveliga kasutajad. Miks? Et madalamas Divisjonis enda BH medali jaoks teha base hit. Mitme kasutaja kasutamine on küll mängu reeglitega vastuolus, kuid määravaks saab see, et tegu on maksvate klientidega. Kui sul on tilguti veenis, sa ju ei lõikaks seda läbi? Eip. Nii ka arendajad.
Täpselt sama praktikat kasutab ka Mix. On mainitud, et igas treeningsõja lahingus teevad täpselt ühed ja samad näod madalamates divisjonides selle ühe hiti. Ja siis ilmutab end Mix, kes võtab lihtsa BH.
OLETE KUNAGI JÄTNUD BH VÕTMATA, SEST MIX ON JUBA VÕTMAS?
Mina olen. Samas on mul siiani õnne olnud ja mina olen Mixiga suht normaalselt läbi saanud, seega pole mul BH võtmisega erilisi probleeme olnud. Samas sõdin ma nii harva, et ei kujuta erilist ohtu tema sissetulekule.
Igal juhul. Kui Mix ei võtaks, tuleks keegi teine. Ja korjaks BH-d. Sest pakkivaid mängijaid on maailmas palju. Ja võimekaid e-eestlaseid, kes lahingust lahingusse lihtsalt medaleid korjaks, enam pole. Eriti madalamates divisjonides.
MIS ON PAREM, MIX VÕI MÕNI SUVALINE KREDIITKAARDIMÄNGIJA?
Nüüd aga mõni aga…
Lahmimine ja mõnitamine Pm-ides pole okei. On ebaviisakas ja isegi hale.
Mis puudutab mingi lambi poola sõprade kodanikuks kutsumist ja lubamist. Taunitav.
Kunagi oli E-Eestis kodakondsuskomisjon, mis hindas kellegi kodakondseks võtmise mõjusid. Üks põhilisi eeldusi kodakondseks saamiseks välismaalaste puhul oli aktiivne poliitikast hoidumine. Oh jah… On vist aktiivselt hoidutud. Nii edukalt, et kõik päris e-eestlased on tõrjutud.
Väitku, mis väidab. E-Eestlane ta pole. Või?
KAS MIX ON E-EESTLANE? ON VÄLISMAALASEST PRESIDENT MEIE HUVIDE EEST VÄLJAS?
Ja siin hakkab pihta võimu tarvitamine. On see positiivne või negatiivne? Sõltub sellest kuidas vastasite esimesele küsimusele. Mixliarder kasutab E-Eestit oma medalifarmina. Meil on kümme treeningsõda, sest tema on neid vajalikuks pidanud. E-eestlusest ongi saanud treeningsõdimine ja oma medalite saldo ohjeldamatu suurendamine. Kui ei meeldi, siis paki asjad ja mine ära. See on see, mida tõenäoliselt öeldakse.
Mida aga pole?
Siseriiklikke projekte. Kogukonna loomiseks ja selle hoidmiseks. Korraldati veel ju mõne aasta eest mälumänge ja ennustusvõistluseid ja muid sääraseid üritusi. Aga mida oodata kogukonnast, mille juht pole samasse kultuurigruppi kuuluv. Me ei lõimu. Me pole sellised vingus halajad.
Mainin ka seda õhulahingutes sõdimise projekti. See ei ühenda rahvast. Ei loo kommuuni. Kasutu lohhi fond. Ainult ilmutab end seitse korda harvemini. Põhimõtteliselt saad nädalas päeva palga lisaks. Kui pingutad.
ON SELLEST SUL KASU?
Mina ei sõdi, seega ei näe vajadust. Aga, eks raha kulub ikka ära. Seega mul selle artikli all oma sots programm. Küsige raha või toitu ja ma saadan.
Edasi...
KAS ON MINGIGI VÕIMALUS ALLESJÄÄNUD E-EESTLASTE ÜHENDAMISEKS? MINGI KOMMUUNI TAASTEKKEKS?
Samal kursil jätkates ilmselt mitte. Riiki peaks juhtima keegi, kes meid ka mõistab. Ja kõnetab. See riik on meile. Ja see peaks olema meie kui rahva otsus, mida me sellega teeme.
Nüüd aga. Vahetame keelt.
So. Mixliarder. Time to come clean. Why do you have to be so rude against some of your fellow citizens? What makes you believe that inviting your Polish friends to be E-Estonian citizens is the right course of action? Why are they so rude against fellow E-Estonians? Do you use E-Estonia as a tool for personal gains like BH medals? Do you consider any D1, D2 and/or D3 BH medal your's it E-Estonian training wars? Do you consider yourself E-Estonian? Do you use other accounts to to make base hits in lower divisions for your own BH medals? Did you promise not to participate in E-Estonian politics when you first applied for E-Estonian citizenship? What happened in E-Poland before you moved to E-Estonia? (Tell us about the alleged hacking of other accounts in E-Poland, we do remember, you know?)
If you are not willing to answer to these questions, I (and probably some others) will seriously doubt, if you are supposed to be running the country.
Ja lõpetuseks. Mix on nüüd president olnud kauem, kui kestis omal ajal Eesti Mehe diktatuur. Wadap?
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Why do you have to be so rude against some of your fellow citizens?
Mostly just one that have been rude to me, Dodo. Do other fellow citizens must be rude to me? Reply, please.
What makes you believe that inviting your Polish friends to be E-Estonian citizens is the right course of action?
? Nothing ? There is just one that is barely playing now, honestly.
Why are they so rude against fellow E-Estonians?
Not “they” - only one. And I DIDN’T LIKE IT EITHER, I didn’t see that PM before it was published.
Do you use E-Estonia as a tool for personal gains like BH medals?
Rather the opposite - I consider myself as a gain of Estonia that make it stable. I consider myself as a top1 rank player in Estonia whether someone like it or not. I have invested a lot of money (real one) in my account, and honestly (also whether you like it or not), it makes Estonia quite stable country in eRepublik because enemies know I have resources to defend. And this resources also come from Battle Hero medals that are mentioned in all the storm so often. Do you get it?
Do you consider any D1, D2 and/or D3 BH medal your's it E-Estonian training wars?
Umm, no? Where have you read that? The fact I get most of them is because I am the most active citizen. If you want medal if you come once in a day or something in the middle of the battle, you would have to overhit someone because it is almost ALWAYS taken by someone. THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT POINT that you are missing constantly. This someone is either me or someone else. With overhitting me there is no problem, someone else he/she can defend it and make you spend for nothing. So who is better to take medal here? Me or foreigner in this case? Hope you’ll reply.
Do you consider yourself E-Estonian?
YES! I DO. Haven’t I proved through all these 6 YEARS that e-Estonia is the country I care for the most, when all the time we have been attacked by Finland, Romania, USA, Argentina, Chile and so on? Don’t come up with training wars now here, it was long before we had any. Dodo I don’t really remember if you have done something except of DodoBet during last years.... Just saying.
Do you use other accounts to to make base hits in lower divisions for your own BH medals?
I invite you to eRepublik worldwide hit channel on Telegram or other Telegram chats, now you wouldn’t need any account to do that.
Did you promise not to participate in E-Estonian politics when you first applied for E-Estonian citizenship?
I don’t remember. I was dragged to politics by itself, I never wanted to be such active.
What happened in E-Poland before you moved to E-Estonia? (Tell us about the alleged hacking of other accounts in E-Poland, we do remember, you know?)
I remember too, because it was a b-sh....t of the universe and even person who were then in charge in Poland can tell you that, because the same person is in charge right now. Go and talk to Khere and he will tell you how it really was - in fact I did nothing 🙂 And I never hacked someone. It was shaql , completely the other citizen.
You seem to be missing a very important point so I will list a few of them, Dodo.
1. I am almost Legend 20: Estonia, and this is something unchangeable. So yes, I will play for Estonia forever. That’s why I wanted to be friends with everyone or at least neutral, because simply it is neither in mine or another’s person interest to be conflicted in such a small society.
2. If we had 1 Training War, you would be mad that I come and take medals. With my current unchangeable (!) rank, I can deal around 2-2.5 billion damage daily just from Food Fights. Do you still think that Estonia doesn’t need any Training War?
3. These so called BHs and GOLD I get are burnt in a serious war that Estonia faces almost every year. If someone attacks Estonia now, it wouldn’t be so easy to win, because I am always ready to spend all I have for Estonia. When will you get that? When will you get that if I get the BH, I don’t go drinking with the GOLD but I collext it to be exchanged for Energy Bars in case Eesti is in trouble? I let others take BH. I have proven that many times so not gonna repeat again. I may be rude sometimes (and this is a bad thing that I am easily provoked like it was with Rait), but ESTONIA IS THE COUNTRY I CARE THE MOST, not Poland, not any other country. You should know it by now.
4. I have been calling for people to run for president A HUNDRED OF TIMES. Can you tell me if I lie? You can’t, cause you know it’s true. So don’t paint me black, because I never wanted to be president so long, I have real life too, you know? And if someone else could help in e-Eesti and organizing it, it would be so pretty f... awesome. Why no one ever helped during last year directly to be CP? CP is not just medal and a badge on profile. It’s responsibility. Are you willing to take that one? If yes, go for it!!! If you need my help or advice, I will happily serve..
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...I will happily serve, because as I told, Estonia is my e-hometown, and I feel responsible to make it strong. And I don’t need to be president for that! Really! Just don’t forget points 2 and 3 when running, because these are very important points when it comes to nowadays gameplay, in every country , honestly.
And I hope that you now understand everything. And I am looking forward to your reply. 😉
And one last question.
Does anyone think how I feel when the sh....t is being thrown at me and I basically spent my last 6 years in eRepublik making sure no one ever touches Estonia? Does anyone ever think how I do feel? I am a human too, okay? I make mistakes and I feel too!
I'm glad you took time to answer to all the questions.
I'm not discrediting you for all the work you've put in E-Estonia.
However. I feel like this all is not currently working for E-Estonians. It may be up to you, but more likely it's up to the fact that the game is fundamentally broken. That's what the main portion of article really focuses on.
About rudeness. Show us proof that also RTG has been rude to you and/or your friends. And are you sure you did not start it.
Only thing I want is to point that noone is flawless. You too make mistakes. And a simple 'sorry' is not enough. Grow to be a better person.
If anyone has more questions please be kind and ask Mix.
PMs are kept for 14 days and main insults (something I consider as insult, he may not) were in September 2018 and last months.
Only one, nobody don’t want to be the president etc.. only lies. Ur very rude narcissistic dude, who thinks that he is the eEstonia. And what about Virvu? She wanted to be the president, but all u diid was insulting her and of course all the f threats. And is this our fault, that u but real money in this game?
Mina olen D3 alati BH saanud kui olen ilusti roundi alguses lasknud pole mix ega ükski teine poolakas seda ära võtnud.Tegelikult on mix PMi saatnud ja öelnud et ma võin ta alati üle lasta kui soov on. Ära on võtnud hoopis eestlane 1 korra SH
I am with robi86 on this. I even didn't go for BH, it just happened that I managed to make top damage and then Mix sent me a pm and asked to add some more damage to make sure that I get the BH. On another occasion I was close to get the BH and some BH hunter took it away. Then Mix made sure that the BH hunter didn't get it either and got the BH to himself.
With as little active players in eEstonia as we got, we still have a congress every month and we are not wiped out. I think Mix has at least some part of it and I am glad that he has decided to dedicate his time to it.
And yes, I too got an pm from Mix at least once that I can always take his BH if I want.
Dodo presidendiks!!!
Ma vanima e-eestlasena mainin ära, et konflikt on alati kahepoolne, ma juba pikemat aega täheldanud, et Mixi võtab hommikul enda BH-d ära ja ma isegi ei viitsi seal eriti passida, kuigi tavaliselt võtab ta juhtohjad alles ~5 minuti, kui teed enda tämmi enne ära, siis ta seda ei puutu, õhtul tee, mis tahad, Mixi ei ole mult aastate jooksul ühtegi medalit vist "varastanud", kuigi ma vist mõne kogemata olen. Samas eile sain kaks BH medalit Eesti treeningsõdadest, kus ühes tegin 14 ja teises vist 16m damaget.
Pika jutu kokkuvõtteks, mixi on lahe, kui tema ei ajaks Eesti asja, siis oleks uht pekkis praegust ja oleksime tõenäoliselt kellegi farm.
Olen tähele pannud et Mixi on teinud natuke div4 kampaaniat, et inimesi natukegi aktiviseerida. Aga nagu näha siis kalaõnne väga meie riigis pole. Albertti, pead aktiivsemaks hakkama.
Olen Alberttiga täitsa nõus. Omal ajal oli tema just see, kes mind mängu alustades õpetas. Paraku kõlkusin üpris pikalt mööda välismaid ringi ja aja puudusel tegin ainult päevaseid kohustuslike klikke. See on lausa uskumatu, et ma varsti seda mängu iga päevaselt olen mänginud pea 10 aastat.
Eks see mängu aktiivsus on vahelduva eduga alati olnud. Sama jama on teistes sarnastes mängudes.