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If you think I'm putting effort into this, you have another thing coming. As such, instead of nice shiny screenshots, you can have a wall of text instead.


Good luck, it's the usual shitshow!





ain't even gonna bold stuff to make it easier for you...





Congress December #2

Michael Ludgate to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 5 days ago
#84997097

Welcome to new, returning and slightly late congress members alike, this is the new thread for discussions as we enter December.

Let's remember the festive season is nearly upon us, and bring a little more cheer to each other this month.

Most of the FR's have been accepted. Now you've got the appropriate forum to direct some hate mail, urm... words of wisdom towards samsc3; samsc3 has the appropriate forum for justifying the case for a change from 1 to 200 cc minimum wage.

dougal4chaos to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 5 days ago
#84997153

I was going to mention the work tax vote.
As this comes up every month and no one ever has a good reason for us not to have a minimum wage of £1 it might be an idea to mention this at the start of every congress thread.

PalaceDom to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 5 days ago
#84997223

Plus may I ask for all respective parties to use their feed/message groups to inform anyone that is new that such proposals are a waste of time and there is no good reason for the minimum wage to increase when everyone is earning at least 800-900 GBP every work day.

dougal4chaos to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 5 days ago
#84997409

oh wow, wages have increased a lot, Im on 400 a day.

Daddy Underpants to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 5 days ago
#84997467

That is why we need minimum wage laws!

PalaceDom to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 5 days ago
#84997707

Damn them with their good paying jobs. I only got one paying 900 the other day, now im in one paying 980 #mrmoneybagsimnot

King Simba to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 5 days ago
#84997894

Welcome all new and old im the dMofA and i offer on the cabinet a new policy we decide to call the policy "open borders" and let me know what the policy talk abuot:

In the past we all know that there was a thing called PTO that was a way of people to come outside the country and take over on the presidents places, today there is no a real threat that something like this will happen here bcuz today there is no such amount of players to PTO on a big countries like eUK so the new policy "open borders" will allow ANY ONE who want to be a citizen to come and be part of our country we will give it a small check and we will enter the players. It can help us as a country to rise up to amount of citizens, it can help the economy, the productivity will be increase and we will have more active soldier like my friend Secret Queen said on the cabinet chat. Today there is not many players that ask to be part of our country but if we will accept this policy it will be the first step to heal our country.
Please vote support / not support my new policy.
And please lets focus on the new policy and let the congress decide about it before we are continue on other things.

Michael Ludgate to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 5 days ago
#84997947

No - As you point out, the reduced player base it worldwide. Jerks however have a tendency to over represent themselves in those remaining. With the reduction in potential applicants, current processes are more adequate than ever.

Secret Queen to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 5 days ago
#84997948

I do agree with my honourable friend that we have a chance to benefit from an open border policy. The real threat from PTO has vanished and we would be able to bring new citizens in. We need them. I also agree with my honourable friend that small security and safety checks should be conducted by the Home Office and Immigration but we should as a Cabinet and Congress support an open borders policy which would allow us to increase our productivity as a country and hopefully bring more active soldiers.

Michael Ludgate to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 5 days ago
#84998089

I agree with dougal4chaos, the monthly occurrence of MW proposals (esp. minus motion) is annoying. However adding such information to the opening thread isn't really the right way to go. As in this case, the member hadn't yet accepted the Speakers FR so they'd not be able to see it and also have an 'excuse' for not making a motion before proposal à la 'signal, turn'.

I'd propose that to aid all PP's in fulfilling their responsibility of submitting a list of pillars of the community (or at least ordering it nicely...) they follow TUP's example of having some form of training material for new players. That said, PP's know their members, if a new guy is running for congress (maybe just someone you don't recognise) send them a message "Hey, not seen you in congress before. Do you know about...".

PalaceDom to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 5 days ago
#84998232

I think it is a valid idea Simba however I think we need to focus on problems we currently have here and one way we could get activity up/people active is by once again offering MoD rewards for ranking up. I have ranked up god knows how much by now and I would like to see some rewards for my effort

WayneKerr to certacito and 38 more people | 5 days ago
#84998817

'open borders' is retarded
MoD rewards do not encourage activity


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King Simba to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 5 days ago
#84998841

we do encourage activity we dont wanna dead country...did u read everything i wrote? i dont understand why some people here dont bring a real reason not support this policy

Xavier Brion to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 5 days ago
#84999243

While I agree that having more people would be beneficial, i DO NOT see ho 'open borders' would accomplish this goal.

To wit, people are greedy, self-serving, short-term-minded fucks. the best way to encourage growth is to offer them something they want.

And the safest way for our country to do this is to not have open borders.

as for the minimum age? I'D LOVE to see people getting a minimum of 700 GBP, however i understand not having a lot of money as a business owner so i vote against raising that as well.

in regards to posting things at the front? i think we need to make a list of things, broadcast at the end of every week (think on the party tab in our chat board thing?) of things voted against? or maybe on discord.

i'd like to see some guide son how to actually start a business... and work as a manager - as it's been five freaking years and i can't figure out how to do that lol plus, a 'new player guidebook' from us might swing people not only to our party, but our country. some temporarily - that can't be helped. but some? for quite a long time.

and that will not only boost productivity, our GDP, and our playerbase - but it will also make our was more satisfactory.. and i'm all for taking over the globe.

ONE BRITAIN ONE PLANET!

King Simba to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 5 days ago
#84999277

like i said it will be the first step with the change we and the cabinet will work on

Xavier Brion to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 5 days ago
#84999338

sadly, i'm certain that first step will be along way down for our country. we should maybe look for a more connected staircase so we can be a gleaming gem in the views of the playerbase instead of a lump of charcoal.

like i said, people are greedy and want what benefit them the most. so first we need to be able to provide that and more. and then we could reconsider the open border policy.

until someone can change my mind logically, or our country is poised to benefit from this - my stance will be a firm no on this issue.

AMD. to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 5 days ago
#84999478

That doesn’t change anything?

PalaceDom to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 5 days ago
#84999635

@Xavier people can earn more than 900 in some countries, as long as you move to the country and apply for a job there. It's quite simple and does not cost you anything except the initial travel cost to the country which offers you the best paying job.

@Wayne although it might not encourage activity in the end, it will hopefully preserve players to play on longer. I speak as that player who greatly benefited from the limited drops I got and those rewards helped me get to the level I'm today.

Michael Ludgate to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 5 days ago
#85000392

Not trying to be mean PalaceDom, but level 35 when the average is 45 - which includes old higher level inactive accounts and a national rank of 166, hell I don't know much over 50 accounts that are relatively active.

Again, not trying to be mean, but it's not fair to suggest you represent the good reason for ranking enticements / drops, or more correctly the reason in favour of such action!


@Xavier - "regards to posting things at the front? i think we need to make a list of things, broadcast at the end of every week (think on the party tab in our chat board thing?) of things voted against? or maybe on discord." - I handle putting out details to peeps on a national level (congress members welcome/should report back on a party level), though often there's just not anything worth shouting about.

The idea of manual writing is certainly a positive one, I'd go as far to say that producing one flavoured with your own parties style is the best way to attract and keep new players that you want to associate with. However that's a discussion within your party. Most everyone will have seen the 'TUP' Kravenn 'War & Peace', though in addition to any updating, some may decide to add features such as breaking it up into chunks for appropriate points in a players development - rewarding them with a sense of progression by achieving each level of knowledge - like Scientology, Free Masons, etc.

Mad Pauly to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 5 days ago
#85000464

Yeah, let's allow anyone in. After all, it's not like anyone would want to do anything like, I dunno, MTO us...

Boy, am I glad we have a deputy Minister of FA...

GargamelTP to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 5 days ago
#85000700

Theres a lot of older guides out there that have been lost, putting together a post containing links to them all would be just as helpful as rewriting them in my opinion.

Xavier Brion to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 5 days ago
#85000975

i was here at the very beginning, on my other three accounts which i seem to have lost/forgotten.... the password to my facebook logins for lol... so yeah... never seen any guides.

Man Friday to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 5 days ago
#85001028

Maybe if we had a list of why we do this and/or that and post in here at the start of every new congress.
Then peeps could discuss the do's and don't's of it?

Xavier Brion to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 5 days ago
#85001065

could be beneficial. how often are seats up for election?

AMD. to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 5 days ago
#85001781

METAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Leo Balzac to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 5 days ago
#85002060

We should build a wall and separate adults from children.

I propose we build closer ties with Russia and attack both Canada and China.

You may debate these ideas but due to my very high levels of intelligence you won't come to a different conclusion.

PalaceDom to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 5 days ago
#85002098

Should we tear gas them whilst we're at it?

WayneKerr to certacito and 38 more people | 5 days ago
#85002187

Look, our policy regarding who we let in is pretty weak anyway, so do we really need to meta up the procedure? No, all it's ever done is cause arguments. It's set up perfectly as is. We trust mongress men won't be derps when selecting who they do and don't let in...

Guides? Guides to what? Most of you know all or don't give a shit about mechanics. The rest is pretty simple maths and social skills. You guys do realise that you don't need to be in mongress to do 99% of the things you discuss here. Want more guides in the public sphere, either find em or write em yourself. Google stuff, get an oldfag to double check they are still in date. It's really not hard. Want to reward our active fighters with free shit. Stick your arguments in an article and publish it. In other words, if you suggest something for other people to do, how about you take a minute and think about doing it off your own back.

WayneKerr to certacito and 38 more people | 5 days ago
#85002192

God I'm glad Leo is back in Mongress. Missed ya brother...

Mr Knee to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 5 days ago
#85002650

To be honest, I can't recall the last time I checked if anyone was applying for UK citizenship. Just about the only people who seem to apply are former UKers who are returning - and most of the time they will nudge a friend in Congress first.

The few people who do apply seem to be illiterates who are moving country as they have pee'd off their countrymen and then buggar off again once they realise the relative deadness of the UK. Some within weeks might get voted in Congress, and put up a dumb vote while waiting for citizenship approval elsewhere.

Man Friday to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 5 days ago
#85003140

Enlarge on your ideas please Leo.

Leo Balzac to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 5 days ago
#85004118

Enlarge? My ideas are already the biggest! The best there is. I'm a great negotiator, just ask Wayne. I always get the best deals. Always.

Xavier Brion to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 4 days ago
#85004813

Now, Now... we don't ant to become exactly like America. we should politely invite them over to tea first... but unlike the turkish - we won't poison our tea.

Xavier Brion to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 4 days ago
#85004818

as per the ranting and raving about how people are either stupid, lazy, incompetant or all of the above - i've been ehre since the start an only recently began trying to do the my own company thing. if there's a problemw ayne - I have no problem abdicting the game, congress, this country altogether in favor of conquering it later with a different group.. and chasing the eUK all over the globe if i have to.

Xavier Brion to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 4 days ago
#85004825

in essence, don't be a fucking prick.

Man Friday to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 4 days ago
#85004879

I know nothing about international relations and any info that could change that I'd be grateful for even if it's a piss take it would still enlighten me a little.

Xavier Brion to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 4 days ago
#85004889

same here friday.. it's pretty new to me.

Man Friday to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 4 days ago
#85004898

yep

Michael Ludgate to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 4 days ago
#85005695

This message may or may not represent the cabinet, the sum of congress, the King of eUK or the views of the Speaker in whole or in part. This message is brought to you via Gentleman Jack, though they don't endorse this, me or eRepublik. Any resemblance to something or someone is purely coincidental.

"as per the ranting and raving about how people are either stupid, lazy, incompetant or all of the above"

This is one of the most insightful comments. Lazy doesn't have to carry negative connotations, the difference is lazy harnessed for a productive tomorrow or lazy to avoid today's grief for the cost of crappy future. Bad lazy, repeated daily becomes stupid due to a lack of anything to fill the increasingly big gap. Incompetent occurs when one realises the gap is appropriately large and lacks the ability to span it.

When someone comes along with a tourist shop and starts selling T-shirts to your Grand Canyon, the not worst response is to smile and bow out, possibly going into business running tours to the bottom or helicopter flights. Moaning about the existence of the canyon or the gift shop isn't going to help any.

Long experience here, there and not quite everywhere suggests with a great deal of certainty that cripples are spoon-fed, and that while spoon feeding a regular Jo doesn't correlate to them being a cripple, it certainly isn't helping them in a direction other than devolving into a baby bird waiting for it's parents to sick the next meal into it's waiting beak.

Michael Ludgate to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 4 days ago
#85005696

Make friends, look at your friend feed, friends have media all around the world, they write articles, they want subs, the shout about articles. Look at our media, look at our media from historic times gone by. You can learn about the game even when something is old or wrong, because even new can be wrong, you learn also from observing trends and commonality in systems. You learn from 'meta' such as knowing that eRep dev team is C&P gods since the dev team got transferred to other games and the support team run eRep. This means you already know that new stuff is unlikely and can take wild guesses that last years article about anniversary is spot on save one extra day.

Just in case you really hanker after delicious taste of sick, here's a tasty morsal: erepublik.com/en/article/2683873

I believe reshouted by Huey, I'm assuming you have him on FL, though judging by the hassle I've had getting some people... This is an excellent article and a great source for gap filling knowledge that'll allow you to make assumptions and analysis of your own that'll more likely than not lead to a future of accurate guesses of the beneficial thing to do today. The worst course of action is waiting for the book 'Your life, and how to live it' because you'll more likely than not be in need of the sequel.

Xavier Brion to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 4 days ago
#85006017

lots of flowery talk with little substance, save the article and info about the ev team... why did they get removed in the first place? O.o

Huey George to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 4 days ago
#85006750

As we approach the end of our current TW agreements with Croatia, Grecce and Ireland (7 Dec), it could be worth discussing a few things.

I feel it'd be best for the UK to end our TW with Ireland and sign a NAP. We've now lost Scotland twice, this is not what the UK agreed to.

Potentially we could keep both our TWs going with Croatia and Greece although perhaps we should consider ending one of these too and sign another NAP? We've had trouble at times with our RWs against Greece indidcating that three / even two TWs is a little too much for the UK if orders aren't followed by all.

I was thinking we could leave Croatia residing in East of England, holding a Croatia / UK TW in our cores? As if I try to end all three TWs on the 7 Dec this might not be too well recievied.

I think my desire that I'd really like to make the management of the UKs TW more simple or even return to a "blank canvas" and let us have more of a say in our choice of TW partner. I've run some of these thoughts past Croatia/Greece/Irish Officals however as would welcome your input and thoughts.

Sir Humphrey Appleby to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 4 days ago
#85007426

You can sign what you like but you can't trust the buggers until we have a reliable big-gun guarantor

otherwise they will probably change their minds again within the same term

Sir Humphrey Appleby to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 4 days ago
#85007452

+ depending if it's the same people running the show when you were in the fo there is a very real danger they will suddenly say no halfway through negotiations

Sir Humphrey Appleby to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 4 days ago
#85007491

and no to the other bollocks

Michael Ludgate to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 4 days ago
#85007677

Bit of pseudo rl. We're UK, cro/gre/ire are Europe already in possession of the European army. Sorry Huey, your May. Appleby is Charles Kennedy, he had a term and well...

I feel your trying to achieve for us the same outcome by making them see they're being unreasonable, however I don't think they're operating on such lofty notions; well maybe Ireland but this's unlikely to translate to change in a conversation within Europe.

We're still in year zero of the invited occupation, early days.

Huey George to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 4 days ago
#85007757

The above discussion does remind me of the other option which perhaps Congress would like me to consider.

Attempting to call in reinforcements, friends and allies to be safeguarding replacements of our existing TW partners which would be more understanding and respectful of our TW requirements and our core productivity.

Sir Humphrey Appleby to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 4 days ago
#85007840

to be honest you'd need to be careful relying on whatever allies we do have left - the guarantees I got were useless and predictably I just gave up (again)

there are a few old contacts that know the score but these days predominantly IR these days are Realist-based

Sir Humphrey Appleby to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 4 days ago
#85007881

also if there is a leak it's daft to discuss it in here and give the tossers early warning

dougal4chaos to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 4 days ago
#85008628

I think 3 TW is too much, Also not happy with TW that are constantly on our land.

I would like ireland to be allies.
I dont like the way croatia invited greece in in the first place but am happy to have TW with croatia.
Greece have just been dicks and the sooner thay are out of the equation the simpler the negotiations will be.

We have had 2 months to prepare for the 7th, William has asked many times to help out with FA.

Its a fine line between negotiating hard to get what we want and them just making it a full on occupation.

Im happy for the CP/MoFA to negotiate/discuss in private to avoids leaks from congress.

PalaceDom to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 4 days ago
#85008859

I agree with Dougal. We need to simplify our TW like we used to have under JamesW. Or is it more beneficial for us to keep more training wars?

Bay Jee to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 4 days ago
#85009460

Fewer training wars will be less opportunities to farm gold, but it does have the advantages of going to different countries and fighting for different objectives and causes that other people may believe in

WayneKerr to certacito and 38 more people | 4 days ago
#85011878

Who the fuck is Xavier Brion and why the fuck is he threatening us? If you don't like people stating the truth, then maybe you should fuck off from the eUK and 'chase us around the globe' instead.

If you wanna do shit, then simply do it or attempt to get your idea off the ground, others may come and help you if its a good idea. You don't need to be Mongress, you don't need a fancy title and you don't need to be a member of cabinet. As Ludders correctly stated, there is a plethora of information available to those who can be arsed to look for it. Spanning throughout the ages of the game. Just every major event has numerous articles, every change to the mechanics has been documented.

As for the TW's, you ain't getting out of em. The rod for our back has been made already. Applebys treatment of Croatia ain't earnt us any friends there, Greece have always and will always be cunts and we all know what Ireland is like, especially when Ulsters Finest is on the prowl.

We have no friends and we have no way of gathering up allies to help us out, because we no longer have a decent sized punch when we want. I mean, one guy was able to defeat the eUK twice... This past year has been a massive failure from start to finish and has pretty much stuck the boot on top of our head that is now holding us under the water.

We need to start thinking big and drastic, otherwise we'll be a colony by this time next year. A few game mechanic guides and some informational articles aint gonna cut it.


Mongress ain't here to be the 'idea men', we are here to keep the 'idea men' in check.

Xavier Brion to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 4 days ago
#85011964

I see good sense in having two TW at the same tie if need be, because otherwise people might get bored a bit... i tend to.

i dislike greece and their taking over everything we have... maybe if the french are cool with attacking the greeks a bit?

not sure what most of these acronyms are sadly..

WayneKerr to certacito and 38 more people | 4 days ago
#85012002

not a full list of those used and some are way out of date https://wiki.erepublik.com/index.php/Acronyms_in_the_eUK took me 2 seconds to google it...

The main issue is, we haven't picked a side. Are we still Assterian bitches, even though they don't return our calls or are we siding with the anti-assterian lot? 2 months since Huey was elected CP and we still are attempting to dangle our feet in both pools.

Why on earth would France risk attacking Greece for us of all reasons?

Mr Knee to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 4 days ago
#85013227

Could someone explain the point of farming gold? What are you people saving up for??

WayneKerr to certacito and 38 more people | 4 days ago
#85013348

no idea. the rate of return is counted in years. You'd be far richer if you never spent a penny and just saved up everything you got... new players don't need anything other than 2 TG upgrades. no point in em buying comps.

Daddy Underpants to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 3 days ago
#85014339

Regarding the TWs:

I think ideally we'd want all of the 3 countries to leave regardless to what extent the multiple TW's are useful/not useful, easy/not easy to maintain, if only because of the conditions on which the agreements were started to begin with (i.e. with a gun to our heads). Now when it comes to our chances of achieving this, I have to side with the more pessimistic outlooks that were already expressed here.

As a country we are very weak and unfortunately I'd say that we also don't have a solid relation with our allies. While they don't look at us with disdain (I think...), I suspect the MPPs are re-signed more with the idea "eh, it couldn't hurt" than "eUK are our BFFs!!!" like it is claimed when the topic comes up. This means we shouldn't count on significant firepower from our MPP stack if push comes to shove, and Apple's experience seems to confirm it. You could question how true that is since Apples probably remembers his last CP term through a drunken haze, but my gut says he's right on this one.

So what should we do? In my opinion for now we should set our aim to getting rid of just one of the TW partners. Greece would be preferable, but Ireland might be the easiest to deal with, especially if UKSF is going to stay put in eUK for a while. On a more long term side, we should build up a better relation with our allies, which is where I come in as a MoFA. As a heads up, though: despite my natural ability to find mutual grounds with forigs, I'm not sure of how effectively I'll actually be able to do this as from what I've seen before, effective MoFA work is done based on years worth of rapport between the cabinet, and I have been fairly eUK centric my entire eRep career. Still, I'll finding time to spend foreign Discord channels here and there and mailing people, and see what happens with it.

Michael Ludgate to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 3 days ago
#85014444

Between each involved party owning both sides of the battle, because they can and forigs taking easy gold, cos candy and baby; We're left not earning (save a handful of guys at the very top of the country, like say Frag), I'll regularly go overseas to fight, because I might get something and not have the headache of 'are we pretending to win this battle'.

The only way regular players are going to get on in eUK is to do your DO and Prestige Points and save up those chewy bars initially for each week then towards the events like the just passed +40% XP.

There seems to be a misunderstanding that congress is a place to play a meta game of 'we say what we feel, that makes us feel important and somehow the universe will fall in-line with that'. This continual back-forward of 'I think we need to have one TW', 'Yes I agree, because 1 TW would be better to manage' bollox is past the point of delusional. For the last couple of months we seem to have several conversations that are running parallel as though in different dimensions, I'm not sure which part of 'we're not having a TW, it's a pleasantly negotiated silent W' is hard to understand, but still this thread persists as if reality can be willed by pretending it's different.

WayneKerr to certacito and 38 more people | 3 days ago
#85014558

Ain't gonna get no one to notice us unless we have a sting to our punch. Roachford could charm the pants off pretty much anyone if he put his mind to it. But unless he can offer some sort of payment. He'll be at the back of the line. Even mid power countries have this problem.

People still got stingers? Pick someone you wanna make friends with, get a gang of you together and go win/help some air battles. Make a song and dance of it, shouting, articles, etc.

Roachford, simply going, 'hi, can I suck your dick for damage' ain't gonna produce the goods.

Without friends willing to drop damage, we ain't getting out of our 3 way organised gangbang. So get this notion of ending em or even one out of your heads, not unless the other side willingly leaves when asked. The loss of a few days production is pretty much the least of our troubles.

Jacob Christopher Brown to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 3 days ago
#85014675

Yo can we just get London back please, I've been waiting to use my companies in forever. Cheers.

Daddy Underpants to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 3 days ago
#85014716

"So get this notion of ending em or even one out of your heads, not unless the other side willingly leaves when asked"

Guess I was not exactly clear. The reason I wrote a paragraph about how we're weak and shouldn't count on much allied support was because right now our only valid option is to ask really nicely and hope they take pity on us. Ireland seems like they are the more compassionate ones, and if UKSF stays in eUK, hopefully they'll decide that maintaining the TW (which I am aware is a forced one, in case that wasn't obvious either) with eUK in addition to the other ones is to much of a hassle.

dougal4chaos to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 3 days ago
#85014798

pretty much agree with all our MoFA has said. Remember william was willing to help as well with FA.

Huey George to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 3 days ago
#85017035

Greece has agreed to stop our TW and have asked me to propose a peace proposal law to start our NAP.

Huey George to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 3 days ago
#85017058

I've started to the proposal, reading the above I feel many of you share my desire to make the management of the UKs TW more simple, this could even be the first step to a return to a "blank canvas" to give us a greater degree of freedom to decide what next for the UK in terms of TWs and freeing up our military power to support allies more often.

dougal4chaos to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 3 days ago
#85017309

support peace with greece, its a great first step.

Sir Humphrey Appleby to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 3 days ago
#85017399

depending if it passes their mongress agreed with dougal, well done Huey & Roach!

King Simba to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 3 days ago
#85018454

We do support u

Daddy Underpants to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 3 days ago
#85018521

Can't take credit for this one, Apples. Fingers crossed the Greeks don't change their minds. o7

Xavier Brion to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 3 days ago
#85021383

I support peace with greece as well.

However going forward, I'd like to instill a rule of not purposefully being a dick in what we say - in order to not sow discord between officials. as for some, I'm a quarter-step from voting against them no matter what they propose and how beneficial it is.

the 'no being a dick' rule is going to be applied either way because people being offensive is only going to hurt us and our country in the long run and the short run.

Daddy Underpants to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 3 days ago
#85021483

TUP mongressman proposing we should control rude language?


""Those who fail to learn from history are condemned to repeat it"
- George Santayana"

-Winston Churchill "

- Daddy Underpants

Xavier Brion to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 3 days ago
#85021492

I'm proposing that we treat each other with civility. Our goals maybe different, but if you can't act with accordance of the station... you don't need it.

Daddy Underpants to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 3 days ago
#85021546

Nonsense. How I act has no bearing to what I need or don't need.

WayneKerr to certacito and 38 more people | 3 days ago
#85022420

Do TUP just have no quality control when choosing mongressmen or do they purposefully pick the most retarded?

The last time your party attempted to police peoples speech, it didn't end very well for you guys. Holding the door open and saying 'mi lady' ain't gonna win us any fucking prizes.

If you wish to carry on the TUP tradition of voting against ideas and proposals simply because of the personality putting them forth, that is on you. I just hope your Party Leader and members take note of the fact they have a Mongressmen willing to harm the eUK simply because of personal dislike.

Truth of the matter is, most of you are stupid, lazy and incompetent. The majority of you have never done something worthwhile for the community, never put the effort in, never went out of your way to build something. Most of you don't even understand the basic fundamental principles of the game. You seem to think its some Role Playing Political Simulator.

King Simba to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 3 days ago
#85022463

when i saw PalaceDom run for PP there and i was read his article i was hope he will bring a change there but i saw nothing i even sent him a few PM's like 5-6 times and he ignore everything TUP and few congressmen here cares only from the medal that's how it looks from the outside

Alexander Mourn Gray to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 2 days ago
#85022544

I would like to be left out of this particular discussion... I might be a member of TUP, but I don't want to add more than the following. First off, I would just like to state that I am not lazy, I just don't talk a lot. Second, I won't vote against a proposal or idea just because it was submitted by a certain person I or a party colleague doesn't like, I vote based on how good I think the proposal is. I am also open to ideas from all sides, almost entirely at least. Lastly, on the matter of Open Borders, I don't like that... I think we should at least vet new prospective citizens before we let them in.

Alexander Mourn Gray to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 2 days ago
#85022581

"Talking" could also include typing here and actively discussing all the time. I mostly just read and take in the conversation; just to clarify what I meant by talking...

King Simba to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 2 days ago
#85022641

like i said before about my policy i offer and will continue support it, the days of PTO are gone it will take 70-80 players to make a PTO and we all know it going to happen if we will see someone who going to PTO we wont vote for him open borders will give anyone a chance to be part of our country if we wont do that we will be like eUS that allow only old players that left eUS to come back this is what i have to say about it

WayneKerr to certacito and 38 more people | 2 days ago
#85022715

Unless you are actively challenging your party leaders and/or members on issues that they promote that you don't agree with, you are part of the 'TUP problem' I'm afraid Alex.

You've 'wrote' 3 pages of articles in the year that you have been here. That's more content than 90% of eUKers. You might not be 'lazy', but maybe being under utilized. Don't TUP shit talk between yourselves? Shoot the breeze and talk about things other than the game, get to know each other? If not, you guys really should be. If you fancy experiencing a real community, the Kool Kids Klub's door is always open. Pop in and have a nose about.

But talking is what you should be doing on a daily basis...

WayneKerr to certacito and 38 more people | 2 days ago
#85022757

Citizenship passes are a pointless discussion. It's your pass to do as you like with it. No Mongress wide consensus on how to hand them out will ever be agreed upon and nor will any measures 'agreed' by the majority be enforced. So it's pointless. If you want to hand out your pass to any Tom, Dick or Harry, go ahead.

It wouldn't take that many at all to PTO the eUK. 10-15 would give you a platform on which to build. You don't understand the mechanics behind PTO's, Kai Or.

btw 'King Simba', you paid back that money you scammed from people yet or are you even going to?

King Simba to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 2 days ago
#85022761

well said WayneKerr o7

Daddy Underpants to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 2 days ago
#85022789

"You don't understand the mechanics behind PTO's, Kai Or.

btw 'King Simba', you paid back that money you scammed from people yet or are you even going to?"


"well said WayneKerr o7"



kek

WayneKerr to certacito and 38 more people | 2 days ago
#85022806

it's like Aleks has multiped and divvied up the braincells between em all...

King Simba to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 2 days ago
#85022828

wtf i didnt scammed a single coin from anyone WayneKerr!!!

and i said "well said" about what he wrote now to Alex im so take back my words now i had alot of respect to Wayne untill now

WayneKerr to certacito and 38 more people | 2 days ago
#85022872

everyone knows you are Kai Or, bro. no one cares either, denying it just makes shit worse.

King Simba to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 2 days ago
#85022896

ur makes the game shit worse, ur belong to the past my friend when PTO was actually can work on those old days, today i think U dont know the mechanics behind PTO's WayneKerr

Mr Knee to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 2 days ago
#85023200

The eUK's biggest defence against a PTO is who the hell outside the eUK would want to??

Wayne is probably about right in terms of the numbers needed to start a PTO... Å figure of 70-80 is way, way wide of the mark. Those numbers would be the numbers needed 5 years ago when the top 3-4 parties had over one hundred members. Nowadays 70-80 people would represent almost the total number of active players.

As prior stated, the only people wanting a CS pass are either returning eUKers or people who have caused trouble and are looking for a new country to annoy.

WayneKerr to certacito and 38 more people | 2 days ago
#85023795

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Mad Pauly to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 2 days ago
#85024358

Course, doesn't have to be a PTO. Remember that time when someone let New Faustian Man into the country, and while we spent all that time discussing whether or not to have a dictatorship he was quietly setting up a British MU in preparation for a MEK MTO?

Or how about even more recent events, when an MTO attempt by the US took place?

Or how about closer to home, when the whole country couldn't even defend itself against UKSF's Glorious Revolution, and then proceeded to waste 1m+ of the country's cash in a failed attempt to liberate, even though it had been stated that he would relinquish the dictatorship anyway?

Xavier Brion to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 2 days ago
#85024701

I've been gentle on this.. but DUP, wha tiv'e been saying was never to you so if you've taken i personal it's not. I'm emaning wayne kerr here - who seems to thin acting like a disrespectful piece of shit is the proper ay to go about things.

it's not. youv'e done little but spout negative....everything. i don't think that we could find post that wasn't aggressive, negative, offensive or otherwise.

i'm encouraging you to resign. because yo're not someone I would ever work with, and certainly not someone capable of acting with respect or treating others with such.

Sir Humphrey Appleby to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 2 days ago
#85024844

Props to Scarfar (?) for having the novel idea of buying the country back off em

agreed with knee that our main bastion is being virtually worthless in either a material or moral sense. that said - if there were any serious pto'ers out there we could do with the entertainment

Sir Humphrey Appleby to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 2 days ago
#85024849

as for regulating mongress speech/regulating citizenship/other bollocks - no until you can prove you can enforce it or all of mongress unilaterally agrees to it each month, which you can't and they won't

Huey George to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 2 days ago
#85025124

An update on our TW situation.

I had been progressing well with starting discussions however the situation has changed rather dramatically.

Due to Ireland's incursion into Scotland in breach of their TW agreement with us they opened a border with Romania who is sat in Scandinavia.

Romania, Bulgaria and their allies have an aim are to liberate the UK and to protect ourselves and Scandinavia/France from potential assaults. A few nations also want to add to their TW stack.

The UK was left with a choice, do we attack Scotland, therefore, closing their border with Romania or do we hold therefore letting Romania attack Ireland.

After holding discussions with both sides

I've picked the "Asteria" side over the "Anti Asteria" side. It wasn't an easy choice, however, I think it's best for the UK.

Long-term in essence, we are trading multiple TWs for potential multiple TWs all the while "choosing a side" and making enemies. However, I was reminded of long-standing friendships and the promise of easier to manage TWs and the requirement to make fewer compromises in our TW agreements.

It's also worth mentioning that despite the threat of Romania an initial TW agreement proposal to replace our current deal that expires on the 7th was not favourable for the UK with 8/9 of our regions still in TW cycles or long-time occupation, uncertainty about whether or not Ireland incursion into our cores would be better managed. With no mention of my proposal to minimise our TW agreements down to one. This might have been drawn out in further discussions which had been planned for today however now all TW agreements have been cancelled.

I've been assured that the liberation of the UK is inevitable, although Croatia, Greece, Chile and Ireland will attempt delaying tactics. However, the UK is unfortunately in for a rough period however ultimately with more freedom of choice in TW partner/s and TW agreement terms.

Bay Jee to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 2 days ago
#85025464

Thanks Huey, sounds like a good plan!

Fully support you

Man Friday to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 2 days ago
#85025503

I think we need to be able to vote posts in here up and down,that way all the chaff would soon disappear.

certacito to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 2 days ago
#85025557

Thanks for the update Huey - at times like this there are no EASY choices - and you are doing a brilliant job of navigating the eUK through tricky times.

Sir Humphrey Appleby to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 2 days ago
#85025681

aye, we can't let ourselves develop stockholm syndrome - if the other buggers are finally offering us a rope out of this we either take it or hang with it

Leo Balzac to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 2 days ago
#85028265

The butthurt in this thread is strong and it is glorious. I'm in my element, like a pig in shit.

WayneKerr to certacito and 38 more people | 2 days ago
#85028393

So you've decided to travel down the long worn path. I wonder if this time it takes us to a different destination...

Xavier Brion to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 2 days ago
#85029505

i thina t this poit waynekerr, nothing yous ay has proven to be relevnt nor helpful. Is there a way to vot eout a congress member? if so, I'd liek to initiate a vote to remove wayne

Sir Humphrey Appleby to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 2 days ago
#85029669

christ alive

Xavier Brion to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 2 days ago
#85029741

Nah, dudes being a shithole. none of his group deserve respect. ad i'll gladly be against them 24/7

Daddy Underpants to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 2 days ago
#85029754

ok

AMD. to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 2 days ago
#85030149

Motion to remove Xavier Brion from life

Mad Pauly to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 2 days ago
#85030162

Might I ask who are members of this group? Is it people in the Kool Kids Club (formerly Best PCP)? Or people who are in his MU? Or people who think he might have valid points?

It's a statement almost worthy of Keers at his best (or worst). I guess you consider that we're all far-right nasties just because we disagree with you, and would bar us all from Congress for saying slightly controversial things.

certacito to WayneKerr and 38 more people | yesterday
#85030389

Now now youngsters...

Just because dear old Wayne *does* have a somewhat abrasive manner is not sufficient grounds to attempt to exclude him from eUK society.

There is a place for each oand every member of our community - even if they do have a predilection for defining others to be ‘retards’...

Can we all try to keep some level of respect between fellow Congressmen please

WayneKerr to certacito and 38 more people | yesterday
#85030799

You need to earn my respect. Most of you have done nothing of significance in this game, therefore, you haven't earnt my respect.

TUP still haven't learnt that you can't exclude members of the community that you disagree with or dislike. If we could do that, TUP wouldn't have a great deal of members left. Be thankful that we have cooler heads around, Xavier. You are a dangerous individual.

Madacaion to WayneKerr and 38 more people | yesterday
#85030952

Slightly off topic - or perhaps returning to mongress/eUK gov matters:

Does anyone know who in the eUK runs commune schemes - are there any actively running either within parties, MUs or privately? Do we have a least a list that we can direct newbs, or returning players to?

I'd like to work with a few members of congress/government to see if we could flesh out a commune support package etc. Huey - can you give me a nod if thats something you'd support in principle?

If your interested hit me up in PMs.

_____

In terms of rational for supporting communes:

1) I think that they support activity - with someone actively able to check and see if its dropping off (and can send PMs etc)
2) It helps new players - helping them to get the right stuff easier and hopefully stops them wasting gold on rubbish
3) It gives us another in to create a bit of national ePride / togetherness. There was a lot of good feeling before when I was last playing about the NHS programme which was really well supported by the wider eUK community regardless of background. It would be nice to have another accepted "good" scheme like that in play.

Negatives that I can see atm:
1) Still relies on oldFags - but its eRep, everything does
2) Might put additional strain on those players that support the programme
3) It would need to be open to all, and careful not to support one particular MU, party or 'group'. I'd see the government as supporting and guiding players towards schemes created and administered by those groups that are interested. But we can work this out in the proposal.

Not to say there arn't more, but its maybe worth exploring.

~Mada

Xavier Brion to WayneKerr and 38 more people | yesterday
#85031089

abrasive is one thing. wayne and AMD now, are nothing but disrespectful douchebags. tobe abrasive is to at least have tact and not eb an arrogant fuck.

is this really what the euk is all about now? i'll gladly be against ou in entirety. and i'll find way to destroy the whole thing

AMD. to WayneKerr and 38 more people | yesterday
#85031107

😂
😂

Sir Humphrey Appleby to WayneKerr and 38 more people | yesterday
#85031113

If TUP are going to elect members they ought to give them a 101 on thick skin or fuck off, at the very least

re: communes - outside MU supply they can't really hope to survive against the market unless you have an alfag style sugar-daddy (that defeats the principle point of self sufficiency we ought to be promoting)

re: the 'war' - as the chain reaction has already started can I suggest we keep details in a minimum given the fairies ere

Mr Knee to WayneKerr and 38 more people | yesterday
#85031145

Is there some sort of TUP plan here? Keith finally quietens down and the slack is immediately taken up by Xavier...

Michael Ludgate to WayneKerr and 38 more people | yesterday
#85031199

ffs, probably Wayne knowing what's best for us; Trying to boost activity by having a constant moron for us to rile against - Holly's thinking with bringing back Rimmer.

Xavier Brion to WayneKerr and 38 more people | yesterday
#85031231

you KKK jackasses are nothing but racist bigots. not fit to rule a dairy queen.

AMD. to WayneKerr and 38 more people | yesterday
#85031772

heh

Daddy Underpants to WayneKerr and 38 more people | yesterday
#85032733

The more he talks the more multi-esque he looks. Too well-spoken to be Keith's, not well-spoken enough to be Keer's, and I don't think Cherry cares enough about the game to make one, though.

Hmm, Willy, did you make one in TUP for shits and giggles?

Bay Jee to WayneKerr and 38 more people | yesterday
#85032769

Is Xavier Spanish for Keith?

Please type your vitriol so that we can at least understand what you have written and we don't have to constantly correct your spelling and grammar as we read

dougal4chaos to WayneKerr and 38 more people | yesterday
#85032840

re: communes, there was talk a few months ago of the government running an NHS scheme but that seems to have been forgotten about. I have no objections to a goverment commune or NHS, someone just needs to take ownership and organise it.

dougal4chaos to WayneKerr and 38 more people | yesterday
#85032848

I also support the romania/bulgaria intervention. and glad to see progress made by the CP/MoFA

Mad Pauly to WayneKerr and 38 more people | yesterday
#85033985

Strange days when I find myself agreeing with Appleby. Still, he's right - certain members of That Uther Party might want to rein in their identitarian statements.

Also, if the Kool Kids Klub is racist, does that make us magnets?

WayneKerr to certacito and 38 more people | yesterday
#85036275

Racists!

You White fucking male.

ORANGE MAN BAD!


REEEEEEEEE!

Sir Humphrey Appleby to WayneKerr and 38 more people | yesterday
#85036374

lets not bring up magnets again

Daddy Underpants to WayneKerr and 38 more people | yesterday
#85036382

That sounds like censorship, Apples...

Xavier Brion to WayneKerr and 38 more people | yesterday
#85036415

jesus christ.you republicans are imbeicli shitheads.

my othe accounts are no longer active. nor are they involved in politics. so, this alt became my main. if you were talking of me anyhow.

Daddy Underpants to WayneKerr and 38 more people | yesterday
#85036455

I'm only more convinced that this is a troll multi now.

Mad Pauly to WayneKerr and 38 more people | yesterday
#85036584

So, Mr. Spelling Champion 2018, who are your other accounts, since you've just admitted in a public forum that you've been using multies?

Sir Humphrey Appleby to WayneKerr and 38 more people | yesterday
#85036759

also - why are we republicans as well as racists now?

I petition the speaker to open a new thread without the multi unless the reasoning is sufficiently entertaining

Daddy Underpants to WayneKerr and 38 more people | yesterday
#85036814

Again, that sounds like censorship, Apples...





...but what the hell, I'll support it in this case. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Huey George to WayneKerr and 38 more people | yesterday
#85036863

@Mada, what you've written about communes sounds like an avenue of activity worth exploring you have my nod as it is something I'd support in principle.

I run a very small commune with the Free British Irregulars and I'm sure there are a few other private ones about. It'd be good to know where they are, as I think they can be very helpful to some of our new citizens.

Mr Knee to WayneKerr and 38 more people | yesterday
#85036930

A native brit would not use the word republican which is primarily a US term...

WayneKerr to certacito and 38 more people | yesterday
#85036943

Xavier is a bit silleh.


Reported for multis.

Xavier Brion to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 23 hours ago
#85037206

go ahead. seeing as how i've not logged into them in years, and only made a new one when i lost the original facebook account, i won't be banned. go fuck yourself. this congress is shit and honestly? can't wait to see you cunts burn

WayneKerr to certacito and 38 more people | 23 hours ago
#85037233

Xavier Brion has rejected your friendship request
one minute ago


sad times

Daddy Underpants to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 23 hours ago
#85037241



King Simba to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 23 hours ago
#85037422

Xavier Brion ur not a prisoner u can walk and go away leave the congress or the country if u feel so bad here

dougal4chaos to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 23 hours ago
#85037506

I ask this every month, why the impeachment vote ?

Michael Ludgate to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 22 hours ago
#85037550

I don't think this is the usual monthly (didn't happen thus, nice break...) get voted in, safeguard with said proposal, this is spiteful spanner thrown with eyes closed towards the machine of govt.

Another proposal without a motion, classy. And directed at the right individual, nice work focusing your turd flinging in at least roughly the right direction. I understand why it gets 1 vote, I mean the numpty who made it, but omg wtf in the second vote.

Sir Humphrey Appleby to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 21 hours ago
#85037870

point of order - that the new thread be opened immediately failing an entertaining reason

(a generic impeachment is sub-par)

Alexander Mourn Gray to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 21 hours ago
#85037930

Thank god, we need a new thread that isn't filled with all this hate and BS which, by the way, isn't even related to our job as legislators.

Sir Humphrey Appleby to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 21 hours ago
#85037982

and remove the other multi

Michael Ludgate to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 21 hours ago
#85038007

Not well taken - The speaker welcomes the member to expand on the point. The current thread is running at 4 days, there has been no election that I'm aware of or member leaving.

Sir Humphrey Appleby to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 21 hours ago
#85038019

if we're going to play silly buggers, the point of precedent - if a particularly gifted MP freely admits he's a random multi/pto/mto then it's a "security" issue

this is the leakiest message in the eUK, but...

Sir Humphrey Appleby to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 21 hours ago
#85038030

also he's clearly a yank

Mad Pauly to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 21 hours ago
#85038042

He's clearly an angry young man who has to resort to foul language, bad spelling and temper tantrums when he doesn't get his own way.

I've seen better behaved primary school children. It's sad when the quality of That Uther Party's congress reaches such lows.

Michael Ludgate to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 20 hours ago
#85038048

Silly buggers, you and me are just about the only people going to share that conversation style, I thought you'd appreciate the effort 😃

If you're referring to what he's said in this thread, he's stating that he's had other accounts that are not active, this isn't against eRepublik law. Thus my excluding a duly elected TUP congress member would itself be highly irregular.

Sir Humphrey Appleby to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 20 hours ago
#85038063

given you signed up to the thankless job of speaker fair nuff, the lad(s) probably more entertaining in-tent given current performances

however I ought to point out that eRep law means bollocks all in ere til some twat finally reports us

Sir Humphrey Appleby to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 20 hours ago
#85038067

edit twat(s)

Leo Balzac to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 17 hours ago
#85038443

Keep going boys; I'm almost there!!!

WayneKerr to certacito and 38 more people | 4 hours ago
#85042043

You've got till 9pm tonight to voice your objections (they will be ignored anyway) to me publishing Mongress logs for out voting public to view. Let me know what you don't want in the public forum Huey, otherwise I ain't gonna bother editing my screenshots.

It really shouldn't just be us that are able to bask in the glory of Xavier, this priceless behaviour should be shared.

dougal4chaos to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 3 hours ago
#85042159

I think you should wait until current events are over before publishing but certainly don't publish anything about our TW and related issues yet.

WayneKerr to certacito and 38 more people | 3 hours ago
#85042237

duly noted
duly ignored

Sir Humphrey Appleby to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 3 hours ago
#85042250

hard to leak something that's actually a 'current event' dougal; nothing in ere is sensitive other than certain entertaining MPs

Huey George to WayneKerr and 38 more people | 36 minutes ago
#85043629

I'm not sure there is anything too sensitive in the Congressional Thread currently.

I do think that most domestic Congressional matters should be publically available almost immediately, Military matters and National Security matters in time.

So you are most likely fine to publish logs from my perspective, however just count me as one voice of many. This is a Congressional forum not CP.

I would encourage all to treat people with courtesy, politeness, and kindness. To encourage others to express opinions and ideas. To never be insulting people, use name calling, disparage or put down people or their ideas. To not constantly criticise little things, belittle, judge, demean or patronise. (A series of seemingly trivial actions added up over time, constitutes bullying).

Let's make this a positive workplace environment o/

WayneKerr to certacito and 38 more people | 26 minutes ago
#85043699

Anyone is free to shoot down ideas that they feel are crap. If you put forth an idea, expect people to pick holes in it. It's the only way to build upon ideas...


The word bullying is a very strong word. Much like the other buzzwords that people use, I think you need to be careful when using it. Simply pointing out flaws and using insulting language in my book does not constitute bullying. I know it's a cliché, but this is the internet after all, grow a thicker skin.
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