State Of The Nation [02]
Day 2,583, 05:50
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by An Sluagh
Citizens of the Republic,
In our current situation, we need to assess and analyse our nation, we need to review our strategies and goals whilst being realistic and accepting that perfection is something hard to come by. It's not achieved in a day or by a few people but instead by a community and hours of work which will should pay off. In this article I hope to look into different issues faced by Ireland and give my opinion on the best way forward and how we can deal with such matters.
[War With China]
After what was expected to be a long occupation Ireland has emerged victorious and sent China back to the Far East. Initial resistance wars were unsuccessful and the Chinese maintained their notoriously high CO's making Irish liberation seem highly unlikely. However we did not bury our heads in the sand, we continued to plan and make arrangements to see the removal of our unwelcome guests. Our new ally, the United Kingdom, was occupied in their own war against both Brazil and Canada and were therefore unable to provide immediate aid as they had done when we were under occupation by Moldova. However, our allies of Croatia and Macedonia proposed airstrikes on both Brazil and Canada respectively. As soon as they had freed our neighbour, the United Kingdom from their invaders, all three alleis shifted their focus to China.
Croatia: China has been proposed as Natural Enemy.
United Kingdom: China has been proposed as Natural Enemy.
Macedonia: China has been proposed as Natural Enemy.
Irelan
😛China has been proposed as Natural Enemy.
Through both resistance wars and direct attacks, China was removed from the island of Ireland with minimal resistance. Just like our liberation from Moldova, we were heavily reliant on our allies. To them I am grateful.
[Treaty of Mayo]
On Day 2579, the Treaty of Mayo was signed by Irish President REBELLION 2014 FRITZHILL and Macedonian President Volk 1975. As the author of the Treaty and as the individual who oversaw the negotiations and signing of the Treaty I am delighted to see such benefits come to both Ireland and Macedonia. Macedonia have been without congress since August 2014, they are under constant occupation by Greece who will do everything within their power to keep Macedonia off the map. I have lived through Ireland being wiped and being without congress for several months on end and I can relate to the struggle endured by our Macedonian counterparts.
None of our allies should go without congress - none.
It is for this reason I felt this Treaty was needed. Macedonia have always given Ireland an effort of 100% and we have always given them 100%. However Aurora is not a damagehood, we are part of a Brotherhood. We should do more than fight for our allies, we should do everything within our ability to assist them. We are giving them a region, free of charge so that they can have congress and that they can have a fully functioning country. I support this deal entirely and I will defend it til the end.
The presence of Macedonia also offers Ireland that extra bit of security. In the past three months we have been airstriked by Moldova and China. We have become a landing strip for Asteria and LETO, we need to upgrade our defences. Macedonia provide us that extra layer of security. Should any nation attack Ireland, Macedonia will attack them. Again this is Brotherhood.
[Democracy Within Ireland]
There have been articles claiming that Ireland is now
These claims are pure lies and are nothing more than mere attempts to destabilize the current Executive. Ireland is democratic by game mechanics. Any citizen can run for congress, any citizen can run for the office of President. These options are there for everyone. It is entirely within the Dáil's ability to remove a President from office. I see nothing but democracy. The President was voted in as the most popular leader and has been given the discretion within game mechanics to run and administrate the country. Congress are voted in to safeguard the people and prevent a President from ruling with absolute corrupt power and are there to protect the people's interest. We have elected both and the people have chosen their Executive, they have chosen their Dáil. That is democracy.
No referendum was held over the Treaty of Mayo as there is no rules within the State saying that the Government must hold a referendum. The Executive needed to act with haste and make an agreement as Macedonia have no time to waste. If we were to hold a referendum, would we need 24 hours of discussion beforehand followed by 24 hours voting or 48 hours to allow a larger amount of the population a vote. Who would count the votes? How are we to gather everyone's vote. Are cast votes held confidential or are they released to the general public. We have no referendum system in place. More time would be wasted trying to organise this system and what if people are not happy with the system we implement and refuse to go by it. The Immigration Policy was democratically voted in. Yet the party accusing this Executive of not being democratic ignore the democratically voted in Immigration Policy. Do they only want democracy on their own terms?
Which is worse? A democratically elected Government making a popular decision without a referendum or a party ignoring a democratically voted in policy by a democratically elected Dáil?
An Sluagh
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So airstrike on chinese spawns of SATAN?
I demand chinese be rescued from damnation in Hell with baptism with their own blood!
Lets kill their e-flesh so their souls can blossom in eternity of Heavens!
We haven't gathered the funds for an airstrike just yet.
Democracy involves inclusion that's what the people are asking for. The UK made Brokered a deal between Canada and Mac. If they can do that we could of been given some voice in this matter. I do understand that more voices bogs down the process. But the fact that you made this treaty without inclusion creates a strong possibility that RWS crop up costing mac money and damaging our relationship with them in the future. They might understand that the administration sees them as an ally but they're going to see eventually that enough of the country does not approve of their situation which will create a strain between our nations. Mac is a solid ally and should be treated as such but Ireland needs to have better inclusion withing its government and its people. We all want what's best for Ireland. Just because there's opposing viewpoints doesn't mean we're looking to destroy Ireland. Maybe we could establish an emergency referendum that involves party leaders and shorter time limits maybe 5 hours total instead of the 48 you spoke of.
Yes I have no problem implementing such systems Jship but the fact of the matter is we don't have a system in place, why aren't our taxes done by referendum? No they are made by the MoF and passed by congress. What is the criteria for a full public referendum.
The fact is people are using this event for political gain, rather than saying "it's great we're helping an ally, I am proud to be Irish". People are saying "this government is undemocratic, it's fascist, the people deserve a voice". Yes people deserve a voice and should use it on issues that they are opposed to not that they agree with.
Why waste time on a referendum that the majority of the population support? If people are opposed to this process, set up a logical debate and the government will probably hold a referendum. As of now, I have only seen one or two dissenting voices against this deal. Why should we hold a referendum and let the people tell us what we already know.
If your not online for the 5 hours the voting process takes place for you will be annoyed. Same as everyone else who misses the 5 hours. We have different timezones. 24 hours is the minimum fair time.
At least Jshipman knows about the ancient art of compromise. That is exactly what this is all about. Sure, a normal referendum would have been too late but an emergency referendum would have been possible. That way a lot of discontent could have been avoided. Most people who are now complaining about the Mayo Agreement are not unhappy because of the rental of one of our regions but they are unhappy that they had no say in the matter wich is completely understandable if you ask me. The people who are now counter attacking the people who complain are asking the wrong question. It's not the question of wheter we want to help out an ally or not, it's the question if it is ever okay for a government to make such a decision on it's own.
I never said its an issue of whether people want to help an ally out.
It is okay for a government to make such a decision, it's what we do. We make decisions. If its unpopular then have your say, give us your voice. But don't give out you had no voice on an issue you support.
If this was going to be a tight vote on the matter, a referendum would be held. However we knew that this deal would have the backing of the people.
The nation's word was given. You want a nation to compromise on its own integrity?
It's been a common opinion that the administration does not communicate with the rest of the country. I personally do not feel like this is for private gain but instead for the gain of the country. You're right in thinking you can't make everyone happy at any given time but if you give them a chance for a voice then they'd feel better with the process even if it doesn't go their way. Individuals have to be given a chance to show support or opposition. I also understand that timezones may effect how people feel about a five hour window. But enough people should participate that you can get a general vote and feel. Maybe involve just party leaders and their percentage of congress counts as the weight of their vote? Honestly any level of inclusion at this point would be a positive
We do communicate. There is shouts, there are congress threads and there is the Mass Messaging System for important issues. When there has been things to report, we have done so.
Question, what is the point in a referendum if people are going to ignore the results and do their own thing anyway?
When Ireland voted in favour of renting regions to the USA, many Irish citizens went ahead and tried to break this agreement. Congress voted in favour of a new Immigration Policy and a party refuses to accept it.
Most of the people who are giving out that they didn't get a voice over this issue ignored and continue to ignore to the democratic will of others. What is the point in a referendum on such issues when ultimately, people won't respect the result.
I don't understand how the administration can say they communicate when complete decisions are made without any form of outside voice. This administration had this issue and the last also. It's not just a couple people who feel this either, it's not for political gain or MU gain. We just want a fair and inclusive leadership. That's really not a hard thing to ask. I don't know how past referendums were put into policy, but to say that something like this impossible is simply not true. You're right to say that some players may go rogue and do what they want but if policies are fair the vast majority will follow. I feel that the administration does not want a referendum on this because in essence it requires congressional oversight. Past referendums look to have taken congressional abilities and put them to the oversight of the administration things such as finances and immigration. I feel this way because in your past posts you stated that a referendum would take 24 to 48 hours to complete and that's impossible under these types of conditions and i agreed and asked you about a 5 hour emergency referendum and you stated its less than 24 hours so that wouldn't be fair for all the players. The administration wants it both ways because this results in consolidation in the administration where they maintain sole authority and bark orders down. All we're asking for is inclusion
o7
Voted An Sluagh for CP 2015
I respectfully disagree.
Please elaborate.
You put all my thoughts in single article, well done!
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oo7
Very well written o/
o77
Want a referendum? go play real life politics instead this is a game folks.
There is no referendum system? There isn't a system for rentals either.
There's roleplaying, and then there's player cooperation because the game mechanics are basic and frankly inadequate.
Our Government has supreme power because it is the only means of competently governing a country. They had every right to allow Macedonia into the country on the basis of executive authority, the imperialist occupation of our territories by a hostile foreign power, and the right of government to conduct diplomacy swiftly. Accusations of tyranny are rhetorical flourish designed for political gain.
HOWEVER, the length of time the Macedonians can stay however is NOT the decision of the government alone. Nor is the Presidential election, which is decided by many issues, good enough to decide. The national territory is the property of all the players in a country. That's what a country is in eRepublik, territory + community. Even the Government acknowledges this, pleading for us to think of the landless Macedonians. It's a fair point. If the community has no right to decide for itself what happens to its territory, why should anyone in it bother their hole?
The community has the option to vote for a CP candidate who opposes the deal. Simple.
Or TD's can bring up a motion within the Dáil to revoke this deal.
Look if this issue was going to be a tight vote, we would have held a referendum. But it isn't so we didn't. Why are people getting so upset they didn't get to vote to allow Macedonia hold a region.
No, not simple. The anti-deal candidate could be a complete moron. No matter how much someone agrees with your stance, you're not going to vote for them if they can't do the job. See what I mean? The deal should be voted on its merits, not on who supports it.
And TDs can't bring up a motion to revoke the deal, they don't have the right over our regions either. The country consists of more than the Dail as well, and its a den of factionalism more than Presidential elections are. Leaving the decision to the Dail would be the worst kind of dick measuring contest and wouldn't reflect the actual will of the players.
People are getting upset because you're ignoring them. It's a game, they want to play.
The pinkest pale.
The people's flag is palest pink,
It's not the colour you might think,
White collar workers raise a cheer!
Your Labour Government is here!
We'll change the world, bit by bit,
So you don't even notice it,
And just to show we're still sincere,
We'll sing the Red Flag once a year!
it would be decent to not forget this month the election was a no competition with no candidates, no even one manifesto article and only 55% to the winner
--> yes trito and the assassin got 45% of the votes.
and remind that the first line of defense for ireland was the left hand and the brave irish trio soldiers in first task.
it's not a month of great move, it's not a month of disaster ever.
things put in place, i vote and wish good luck for this government and ireland.
Yes in my last article addressing the State of the Nation I brought up about the lack of competition - however the people voted for this Government so it is this Government who has to govern.
Country > Party. First line of defense were three Irish citizens backed up by dozens more Irish and by our allies. Individuals do not win wars.
to liberate all our lands surely.
it was just a proof that the "opponents" are also in same side when the country needs.
When were you referred to as an opponent? I wouldn't consider you one especially since we've worked a lot together over the past few months.
Individuals don't win wars? I beg to differ, given our history.... And no, I'm not referring to me.
Chile has many regions they occupy gasty decision but it damages us economically unlike chile would be.
You could could always ratify afterwards.
I'll probably regret asking this... but, is there still a constitution? Game Mechanics Vs. Role playing aside, what do our own voted upon 'rules' state? Part of the fun is following those rules as if they were real (censure, the Dail actually wielding power over the CP etc) and the exciting moments when a rogue goes against the 'rules' with enough support to shake up the status quo. I've been away for a while so if anyone wants to pontificate, I'd appreciate it. Still feeling out all the changes to mechanics.
Nope, scrapped. Mainly because it resulted in endless debates about authority.
The Dail is now assigned the powers it has under the mechanics, and the Government (appointed by the President) runs essentially everything else. Big questions are generally considered via referendum, which is why people are up in arms about being ignored on this.
Aha. Cheers, Thanks Brian. I was kind of hoping you would be the one to sum it up.