[Egyptians] Four Scenarios & Updates
Farbous
Dear Egyptians,
Dear Pro-Egyptian Forces,
Dear Friends
For about two weeks, the real life Egyptians in eEgypt has been going a different way than before. 7izb al Tahrir, Arab Liberal Party and Radical Socialist Party, the three real life Egyptian parties, have founded an organization that gives the real life Egyptians and their supporters a voice against the current Catalan PTO.
There have been many reasons for this step. There is in fact the wish to work as equal partners with the Catalans together, but I doubt that the Catalan side is willing to cooperate with us.
However, the Egyptian Resistance is getting a solid structure already. We've got a first constitution for our organization and the Central Committee is currently discussing what our policy should be like during the next month. The transitional period is slowly coming to an end.
We are also thinking of a border-crossing cooperation with groups that would support or ally with liberation movements just like us. We need every helping hand.
I took some time imaging some scenarios that could soon appear in Egypt. Every opinion of mine below will show my (or even the Egyptian?) point of view:
1.) Egyptian Ressistance will consolidate the Anti-Government
In case every discussion with the Catalans and the "official" government fails, the Egyptians may be disappointed and the anti-government faction will be dominating. Since there's a constitution and a solid structure inside the Egyptian Resistance, this step wouldn't need much time anymore.
In the very best case, the Egyptians could have a huge success with propaganda campaigns against the Catalans. The Catalans would be confronted by a well-organized group getting stronger day by day. This could end like most of the countries accept the Egyptian Resistance as the only legit eEgyptian government.
2.) The Power will be divided - the Lebanese solution
Egyptians and Catalans don't need to work completely together, but they divide the power. 50% belongs to the Catalans, 50% to the Egyptians. One month there's a Catalan CP, the next month there's an Egyptian CP. The Vice-President must be in each each from the opposite nationality. The state income would be splitted as well. 50% would support the Egyptians, 50% the Catalans.
Why the Lebanese solution? Because in Lebanon, every confession has its own percentage of parliament seats, minister titles, etc. to keep every confession's freedom. Some may say that this solution won't be democratic, but the problem is that with only two opposing and incomparable groups in one country, democracy is difficult. The danger of kicking the smaller group does exist.
3.) Egyptians form a third power in Egyptian politics
There's obviously an argument in the Catalan faction with two opposing groups. The so-called Nabofascists (it was not me who invented this name, I'm just quoting) and the more moderate Catalans. The Egyptians could ally with the moderates and fight together the Nabofascists.
Sounds good, entails risks. The Egyptians would draw the curtain of their dream to get their country back. Instead the chances are high that the Egyptian hopes will be deceived.
4.) Egyptians accept the Stats Quo
To be honest, this is horrible to imagine. The Egyptians would stop struggling against the PTO and fall into inactivity again. The Catalans could do anything they want with the eEgyptian state like before and the actual (e)People has no power in the own country.
After the transitional period, I will retire from active Politburo affairs and concentrate on other matters. However, I will keep staying active to help the Egyptian Resistance whenever I can.
There should be one or two articles more in the upcoming days.
Until then o/
Farbous aka Hassan Salama
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My support for egypt ressistance!
Voted, We can work in parallel;
1- we will enter the next CP election, and the winner will be pure Egyption ISA.
2- sharing every things in our state with Catalan like positions, supports, rights, etc.
3- continue in Egyptian resistance movement.
We can work with them and getting promise anout certain deal from them after discussion
Voted, and support the eEgyptian resistance
Voted and Supported!
Point 1 is in the future the most possible.
I by myself prefer option two. But it all seems like yeah, option one will make it :/
Option 2 only can happen If they see seriously in danger their capacity of ruling alone Egypt. That's what happened when Varlosh was CP last time.
after the next CP Election, we will decide together, and will select suitable persons in suitable place.
at least , we will put 1 person from Catalan to ensure that we start sharing principles between Egyptian & Catalan
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nabofascists lol
If you were real eEgyptian patriots and wanted to defend your country you should had to help us in the war against Cyprus! We were alone! I saw only one real egyptian in the D1.
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D2-D3-D4??? missing
Farbous "the Lebanese" fights for the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, he is the commander of a MU of that state and he also worked for a long time for the KSA Gov as you can see reading his newspaper...maybe he's still workjing for them in a diferent way?
Short answer: WE FIGHT FOR EGYPT, not for Cataltubbyland of unicorns, your country is not same as our country.
Aren't you stealing all money from treasure and upgrading your training centers and giving supplies to your military unit FAC ??? Then liberate the country! Accept all responsability of your acts.
To remember who are the true patriot thieves
http://www.erepublik.com/en/main/law/Egypt/123930
http://www.erepublik.com/en/main/law/Egypt/129985
http://www.erepublik.com/en/main/law/Egypt/127408
http://www.erepublik.com/en/main/law/Egypt/131443
http://www.erepublik.com/en/main/law/Egypt/131396
http://www.erepublik.com/en/main/law/Egypt/146777
http://www.erepublik.com/en/main/law/Egypt/146695
http://www.erepublik.com/en/main/law/Egypt/134444
http://www.erepublik.com/en/main/law/Egypt/134095
http://www.erepublik.com/en/main/law/Egypt/133764
http://www.erepublik.com/en/main/law/Egypt/133722
http://www.erepublik.com/en/main/law/Egypt/133668
Then, If you are a bunch of incompetent thieves, is not our problem. I find funny that you rule this coutry technically, and you blame others when you lose.....Teletubbies Don't Cry.
actions done by single person can't be assumed for all the group, we, the catalans, as a group have done the only thing we could with the thieves lady ita and Mr Edahi, kick them out from all our places and ask them to return all the gold. Did RL egyptians ask ahmed and Aknouh to return the 300G and kick them from their places?? NO i see aknouh also as a Commander of their egyptian MU, MU that only allow RL egyptians in it...so who's the fascist here?
Single person?? You read all those donations?? Are not made by a single person.
You mean that when you leave Egypt you will give back the more 6000 gold stolen by you and the catalan community in Egypt???
And "I'm sorry" but ALL donations made to citizens by all your governments never have been published regularly in public ingame.
We all would like to know how much gold and currency received every catalgiptian citizen from 2 years ago to now. Or all those training grounds and strength you all have came from heaven???
Egyptian Special Forces accepts also foreign citizens, I was there for a time also. But it's insulting you call others fascists when for example the orders to fight in Sinai yesterday were published only in catalan language. It's a small example.
And OH.....Did Minister of Defense send a message to all Egypt MU commanders for warn in advance about the strategy of Egypt??...NO
About the Sinai battle? NO
About how to receive supplies in case anyone want?? NO (at least not in english or arab)
You are acting alone, so don't ask us responsability, because we don't have any. The reality is hard and it says you all are incompetent for rule this country. Accept it or cry.
A donation law isnt anything related to a thieve action unless you think all the congresman from all over the eworld are thieves, donations law are needed to use the public tresaure for helping egyptian citizens with social grants like this actions:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-moe-ajudes-socials-i-premis-social-grants-and-awards-cat-eng--2420551/1/20
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http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-mod-2nd-national-shield-premis-gf-6-i-premis-finals--2386234/1/20
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http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-mod-2nd-national-shield-premis-gf-5--2385918/1/20
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etc
All done without any special exception for any reason...all that money was given to all the egyptians, go ans ask them the gold cause you think it's stolen...
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Read the article again, the orders are done in 2 languages and it informs about how to recive supplies so stop lying if you can...
About incompetence i think you may be the King and the Queen at the same time cause you are here only to fuck the catalans and to break the egyptian society (like PP in RL) and well...you always LOST with it, s go ahead and cry me a Nile 😉
You know what I mean, but of course you never will recognize it. So talking to you is like talking to a wall.
Me breaking egyptian community? So what you did? Improve it??? You improved it giving supplies and money to some egyptians?? Some candies and then all is solved?...better don't answer.
You mean that me, a single person, can cause trouble to you, your catalan slaves and the egyptian community?? Wow, I must be then very important person and very powerful for do all this. Because then you won't be answering my comments. Leave, and the torture I'm causing to you and your lil slaves will over 😃
You are doing in eEgypt what in RL the PP party do to Catalan community. So you are now the PP 😉 ...and you are enjoying it, because you need the feeling of controlling Egypt & catalan community like a dictator (IRC, Forum, Party, MU, all is directly controlled by you or someone very close to you). And as you know, dictators are soon or later overthrown, because they are all LOSERS 😉
Naboal and his friends, slaves and multies are the most backward, chauvinist, xenophobic and sourpuss people over eEgypt. When that horde leave out, everybody here will live in peace, including egyptians, catalans, and everybody who only want to build a new Egypt.
I know you love me a lot but try not to show it as shamelessly in public please you ashame me!
Having made this clarification in my opinion no one from egypt should leave by force, this way of thinking ans solutions are more like a fasicst people would do, looks like etchner, Mikhail, and people from their group of friends like that ideas while at same time call the others fascists...shit happens...
The Catalgipcia congressmen never give citizenship If the applicant don't know catalan language, is not catalan or close friend of a catalan.
Etchner entered in Egypt because Ali Galal gave to him citizenship and you (and your slaves) don't wanted to let him enter.
"no one from Egypt should leave by force"
First, we never will force no one to leave Egypt by force, and etchner and me, never forced anyone. Don't be a liar.
Second, your mates tried to force me leave by force:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/sancions-i-altres-assumptes-de-seguretat-2300382/1/20
I'm still waiting your rejection of the then Minister of Interior for ban our old political party, and for do a black list with my name in it, and names of my friends. Guess who do those lists??? Guess who? FASCISTS
You read it good Naboal? No?...FASCISTS
- Discrimination in citizenship giving
- Ban of political parties
- Blacklists of citizens
- Racism and disrespectful attitude of Egypt culture
- long etc...
If those are not attitudes of a BIG FASCISM like the mansion of bill gates...
Go eSpain and fight for liberation of eCatalonia, but don't be a coward and abuse of communities with less players.
i think the MOI did his duty as it should be expected from a normal state that want to repsect the laws givern by them in a democracy.
Vihesito used tinyurl short links to trick our congresman and make them accept CS without their will so all that was an exploit that should have a MOI answer with consequences.
While you and Leinster tried to confuse other congresman giving them orders about what they should vote in some laws telling them that you where Ministers when you werent nothing from the governemnt, so in any democracy this things should be punished (if not look at Nicolás in RL)
Btw we didnt do anything diferent that other states do for security and friendship between players, the diference is that you hate Catalanism ideology, that's all,and because of this you could never be someone to rely between catalan and egyptian comunities if someday we enter in any new kind of negotiation or pact or treatment...you only have to read your comments everywhere to see how your words are impregnated with hatred
No evidences were shown and no judgement was performed for defend our actions (in the case we did). So a unilateral judgement was done by a Minister, in base a non-existent law. Because me, Leinster, etchner and Vihesito respect Egyptian law. But we do not respect Catalan State laws, because they are not our laws, and Catalan State is not our country. Our country is eEgypt.
And you know what kind of persons do those judgments? The Fascists!
Don't be false, you don't want to negotiate, you only want to impose your will, like now. You had many months for try search an agreement, you don't have excuses, and saying I'm the problem is not true. Because the real problem here is you. And when someday you stop beeing a key person in catalan community, you will realize who are your true friends, and you will check If they only talk to you for the money or for get congress or CP, or because they really like you xD Get ready for a dose of eReality when it arrives.
haha just to make you know i recived the inheritance of 3 old catalan players ingame, voted so many times as PP/CP/congressman and also i was designed as the new admin in the catalan forum by catlander (an important catalan player in the comunity) as his last will before he left.
And finally just tell you that i dont help catalan people thinking about what they will return in exchange...wtf...i do it cause i like helping them as if i were helping me, doesnt matter what they think or do after what i did for them even if i make errors or good things, i fell good when i help`them, that's all, could you understand that?
Im not saying you are the problem, you aren't that important as you said in another comment, im saying your ideas doesnt use to be part of a posible fair solution for all in any way.
It's completly ironic that Nabofacists spend all day preaching about Democracy while they are supporting one of the first examples of false democracy that you learn in the University: The Dominant-party-System. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominant-party_system
In addition, it's hypocrite that Nabofascist people defend Democracy and law while I appear in that article http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/sancions-i-altres-assumptes-de-seguretat-2300382/1/20 and in that moment I was in a volunteerism work in a very small town with no Internet for one and half month and it was completely impossible that I had done anything. In fact, the only thing that I do for catalans until that day was programming an irc bot, as the catalan president of the month before told me to do in order to "help me in my integration in the eGypt community". I perfectly remember how Naboal declined to use my bot because it was programmed by a non-catalan player.
I encourage you to show any evidence that make me an "anti-catalgyptian" before the date of that article, just one evidence.
request happily offere😛
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/se-nota-se-siente-jesser-presidente-2108203/1/20
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/rojinegros-que-luego-se-vuelven-azules-chafarderos-y-otras-liebres--2122235/1/20
all that was before we knew each other!