Understanding the neighbours of eGreece.
Day 1,333, 01:29
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by Riggy
Edit: The cost of internet connection used to formulate this hypothesis was not correct. Vlad0.P wrote, "I pay 14 dolar per month for 160GB and there`s are internet packeg 7dolar`s for 80GB per month."
7 dollars a month would be something like the equivalent of a 35 euros connection in Greece. Still the double than what most of us pay, but not out of reach for common people
Now I am confused again.
I'll defend the case that the traits of our erepublik communities do not really depend on the "national traits" (whatever that might be) of the real life nations, but on the social composition of internet users in these countries.
There's been a lot of talk on why eFYROM citizens are (generally, not all of them ofc! Some of them are pretty good fellows) so rude, ultra nationalists, cheaters and big spenders. There has also been some talk between eGreeks concerning the reasons why so many eTurks are actually cool.
I'll throw in some stats just to formulate an hypothesis, they should suffice.
According to eurostat : http://epp.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/statistics_explained/index.php/Minimum_wage_statistics
Minimum wage in FYROM is 123 euros.
Minimum wage in Turkiye is 385 euros.
Now according to these stats : http://www.nationmaster.com/country/mk-macedonia-republic-of/int-internet
Internet connection in FYROM costs 25.33 dollars a month.
While Internet connection in Turkiye costs 11.61 dollars.
In other words, eTurks are common people like us all.
While eFyrom users (again, not all of them!) seem to be fellows that pay for internet access the equivalent of 1/5th of their fellow countrymen wage.
Now let's stop for a moment and think. If internet access in Greece costed 150 euros a month, would the eGreek community be the same?
So let's quit nationalist and racist rhetoric. It's all about class baby.
Now if these stats are not close to the truth, let me know and I'll take this article down in less than a second.
7 dollars a month would be something like the equivalent of a 35 euros connection in Greece. Still the double than what most of us pay, but not out of reach for common people
Now I am confused again.
I'll defend the case that the traits of our erepublik communities do not really depend on the "national traits" (whatever that might be) of the real life nations, but on the social composition of internet users in these countries.
There's been a lot of talk on why eFYROM citizens are (generally, not all of them ofc! Some of them are pretty good fellows) so rude, ultra nationalists, cheaters and big spenders. There has also been some talk between eGreeks concerning the reasons why so many eTurks are actually cool.
I'll throw in some stats just to formulate an hypothesis, they should suffice.
According to eurostat : http://epp.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/statistics_explained/index.php/Minimum_wage_statistics
Minimum wage in FYROM is 123 euros.
Minimum wage in Turkiye is 385 euros.
Now according to these stats : http://www.nationmaster.com/country/mk-macedonia-republic-of/int-internet
Internet connection in FYROM costs 25.33 dollars a month.
While Internet connection in Turkiye costs 11.61 dollars.
In other words, eTurks are common people like us all.
While eFyrom users (again, not all of them!) seem to be fellows that pay for internet access the equivalent of 1/5th of their fellow countrymen wage.
Now let's stop for a moment and think. If internet access in Greece costed 150 euros a month, would the eGreek community be the same?
So let's quit nationalist and racist rhetoric. It's all about class baby.
Now if these stats are not close to the truth, let me know and I'll take this article down in less than a second.
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I once saw a statistic that showed the percentage of people from each contry that play eRepublik. For all countries it was many times less than FYROM's. Also at some point, according to another statistic, there were more eRepublik players in FYROM than internet conections!
This might be true, since this game has been promoted by the media of this country as part of the nationalist propaganda of the political party in power. Still, from a net cafe you can do work/train/fight. Socialising with players from other communities, organisation and politics, everything that formulates the image of the community, is not something you can really do from a net cafe.
Interesting facts.
Hail $¢¥₥€X !!!
so what is the point?
that upper classes are more rude, ultra nationalists, cheaters and big spenders?
Yeah, spoiled rich kids and bored leeches of society, according to my -kinda founded- stereotypes, have all chances to be more rude, more cheating, more spending, and more nationalist than a teacher in high school. By definition.
It will not be precise to assume Internet connection solely to play eRepublik and it's average wage: some gets higher, some gets lower , some families get several of it.
LOL "In other words, eTurks are normal people like us all." This article is bordering on racism lol
That aside , Why do you think eIreland seems to have a larger than "normal" proportion of liars ,thieves and rogues in general ?? Same reason?? spoilt rich kids n leeches ?
@ castaneda
"bordering on racism"
Why?
And no, eIreland to my experience is good people. Have you been to other communities?
@Luminara
Nothing is precise in that really. Just some facts and a hypothesis.
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interesting theory!
voted!
eat the rich
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Nice findings Riggy.
Really interesting research
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@Riggy
Thanks for admitting that eTurks are human alike creatures 🙂
PS : I am RL Turk.
@Luminara
Actually Turks and Greeks have too much in common, in music, language and food for instance. I've had some very good Turkish friends a few years ago, so I had the opportunity to find out for myself.
I am talking about e-communities in this article though, not rl nations. And yeah, the eTurks are also a good bunch I think. And you are an example of that.
@Riggy
^ jk 🙂
And glad I am born eIrish, never set foot in eTurkey.
Balkans , how do you say, too Balkan for me 🙂
Yeah :/
Greek PTO of Ireland under the ruse of friendship?
I should do a research about eUK too one of these day. The findings will be surprising I think.
μιλάμε επιστημονική εργασία, όχι αστεία :~)
Riggy at his best!
interesting commentary... food for thought.
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Interesting
Nintresting
Former British Colony of Irghhhhh u are stupid ppl
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"That aside , Why do you think eIreland seems to have a larger than "normal" proportion of liars ,thieves and rogues in general ??"
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I dont get it
Wow! Never thought of that...
Nice one Riggy!
"It's all about class baby."
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V for Riggy
@Clair:
Class and style(as exohoritis said ;~) )
So let's quit nationalist and racist rhetoric. It's all about class baby.
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"Internet connection in FYROM costs 25.33 dollars a month."
You are wrong about this (and maby about everything else, except Minimum wage in FYROM is 123 euros. )
I pay 14 dolar per month for 160GB
and there`s are internet packeg 7dolar`s for 80GB per month
I work with these kinda research numbers a lot.
I dunno about opinions on other countries, but RL Ireland is lightyears behind. Once you are outside a city, its 3g or an aul'umbrella stick and take yer chances.
Srsly.
Typical Irish 'logic'
POTATO
people from ex yugoslavian republics have huge diaspora in west europe (Germany, Austria etc.). Since you dont know where they have access to the game, it is fairly tricky to judge from this factor...
Yeah, quite interesting.
im am more interested in ''why an irish guy makes a research about the neighbours of greece and compare macedonians and turks''
anyway, dont be too hard on macedonians, in game or rl, in high school and way before, they have implement us nationalism. as i get over all the stuff they teach before, it is always be somewhere deep down inside my mind.
i saw same stuff from some greek players too. as i speak some of them about peace threaty between eturkey and egreece they come up with smt like '' you are never to be trusted, you guys killed many greeks 464654756 years ago''. the sentence is too similar what they teach us also. they said there are 2 million turkish died 464654756 years ago.
then you realise, all nations telling lies about history to keep hate alive. so my advice : dont prejudge anybody on their nationality, just concentrate on being humane, maybe you can learn smt from each other.
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I have made my share of fun in this "fyrom" issue, because it just felt so funny amongst all these "o7" and "hail brötherhööd" people.
My spologises , I wont do it again. Its not my issue its eMacedonian issue.
If they want their countrys name to be Macedonia, I dont see any reason why they could not ?
I dont care if some1 wants to be eFinland either, I play in eSuomi anyways.
And if you all want to be Finns, well that would be good also. Infact that would be the best solution to all of us.
Hail eMacedonia ( You have all the right for your countrys name, even theres a province in Greece sharing the same name.)
Fail o7 spam + ebrötherhööds.
Many gold buyers in this game live in W Europe or North America, even if they play for other countries. Bogdan for instance lives in Canada, Depici lives in Austria. That's why they can afford to spend so much more than the rest of their country.
Yeah, daniecox, you are right. The diaspora also has to be included.
I'm still confused though. I don't get it.
When reading Macedonian Warriot's comment above :
"U dude are simply... STUPID"
I mean, no imagination, no subtlety, no effort, no nothing, just a rude comment like that. How is this behaviour explained? Beats me.
haha wow.
>Greeks trolling about economic status
Voted, Riggy is always right.