Puppets and puppeteers of Ireland
Kurdt Fradenburg
Whats up puppet!?
Just wanted to write how some things are funny in Ireland
"The Family" thing, I mean, serious?
Are Irish citizens still buying what you sell them? lol
I dont have fake logs to show how things are done in eIreland
you had enough of those in last couple of days.
I have no intention of writting a nice formated , complicated wordish and quazi patriotic article btw.
Brownbeating etc
Cant you leave your egoist sorry asses in real life and be normal here ,in this game, where you have a chance to do some really good things for this virtual community?
Ireland is full of crap these days.
Now testify
Your text to link here...
take care if you're not a puppet!
Comments
Something tells me you 're gonna wake up with a horse head next to your pillow tomorrow morning.
Simple facts are simple
Ireland never has as much fun when a member of the family is CP. We have given so much to Ireland its unbelievable.
FOR IRELAND
O/
Kurgan use horse head as a pillow....it's very comfortable.....
This Mafia is made by frustrated virgins who are only strong when in herd....problem are coward irish citizens who are scared of them.....and only Satan knows why....
Kurdt, someone had to say it, and you have said it very nicely. Voted hard!
I think we all know what this is really about. The ICA has been taking in Croatian refugees and Kurdt is letting RL racist views affect him. It is truly saddening to see this. ;_;
someone is jelly :😁
Lol... You throw shit at the people who are members of The Family for pretending they are something they are not, and still you are part of an imaginary new world, you are part of an military unit, you are a "politician", etc., etc.
Rugala se sova sjenici....
U jelly?
Luka I'm not writting this as a politician or a military commander
I wrote this as a citizens view on current state of Irish community.
Voted
Well why do you have anything against this acting as a mafia family as long as those people are doing good for the eIrish community, as long as they help new and older players, as long as they take stepps that are for the benefit of the community??
Luka this community is not healthy
election campaigns are a mockery
people who speak their minds find themselves as a target
and are brownbeaten until they leave the country or stop questioning this oligarchy we have.
Then dont mind the elections, let them have their positions if they want them so bad... Politics where always a dirty game with no rules, why should it be different here in this virtual world? I keep myself as far away from politics as i can, yes i am a congress member, but that does not mean i will vote for some proposal just because a specific player made it or because i fear someone.
I respect Ibhoy and i also respect Marcus, so im not getting involved in their problems with each other, even if im not throwing shit at one of them in the papers or on the IRC, they can still trust me as a friend.
The problem is not "The Family" the problems are between individuals, as it was always. Don't be surprised if some people pick sides, but they are also with a reason in some partys, familys, military units, and that reason is mostly friendship. Don't blame people for defending their friends and comrades...
Inb4 u recieve a pm and publish a retraction tomorrow
Kurdt, it would be nice if you actually asked me if you could be in my cabinet before calling me an elitist for not including you in it. You know, you're not exactly top notch material, which means that people wont come handing you invitations to being a part of their government.
I suppose this applies to a very large amount of other eIrish citizens too.
Before claiming there is a regime, try to work beside those you call elitists. I think you would find that, if you all stopped nagging about what is wrong and actually tried to work with the government to improve things instead, there is no regime at all.
Watch out we have a badass over here!
Yes, everything is the fault of the ICA and always has been. Only one side throws shit and the other does not. Things are just as black and white as that. LA, ILP and Libertad are like fuck yeah just the best evah yea! ICA is the cause of all Ireland's problems and has not been the main contributor to it's successes for a long time. The policies the "oligarchy"(you should really substitute that word for "people willing to get off their fat ass and do stuff") has followed have clearly not seen Ireland have the most success it has ever had. They are clearly not fit to run the place and are not the most competent people we have.
I still say we need to elect inanimate cardboard box.
"You know, you're not exactly top notch material, which means that people wont come handing you invitations to being a part of their government."
Look who's talking... the worst CP Ireland has seen for a long long time.
Back off ICA.
Luka ,it is "the Family's" problem if articles that contain stuff they contain are signed by the Family -Dan Breens article for example,as it is so I find it reasonable to react and write an article in which I will share my view on the current matters.
To Chew, you ran against WHS, my dear friend so I really didnt want to ask you anything on the matter.
This month I will be in cabinet if either IBhoy or Marcus win as a part of MoD where I can contribute,learn and polish my existent skills.Just so we are clear about that. Theres no sectarianism from this side.
Very good article Kurdt!!! V&S
Amazing RATM concert 😃
btw, " the family" kiss my ass
Ireland is full of crap these days.
i'm sure that you're the one of them 🙂
THE I
THE I
THE ICA
\o/
btw The Familly did something bad? if so, let us know what we/they did 🙂
Kurdt, what is the point of this article? All this ILP venom is ridiculous.
Nathan our party president saying, "Somebody had to say it." You've been in the game for 5 minutes Nathan. I just lost a lot of respect for you. As a party president you should be impartial instead of jumping on the bandwagon. Learn the history first mate.
Didac_Marti telling ICA to kiss his Ass? Who are you anyway?
Military of San Marino telling ICA to "back off" after you've obviously called them out, Kurdt. MSM quite possibly cost WHS the election with his idiotic and incorrect comments last election causing him to be booted from the cabinet.
I may agree with you that Ireland is full of crap these days but how does your adding to it help? You accuse ICA of "brownbeating" yet you attack them yourself? And the word is browbeating by the way.
I am a proud member of ICA.
I am a proud member of ILP.
I am not a puppet.
I'm with Yddub... he has smartz.
I am a proud member of ICA.
I am a proud member of ILP.
I am not a puppet.
I am Yddub's puppet, now can you all start blaming him for everything that goes wrong around here? Thanks.
U mirin'
All of u mirin'
ILP IPP ICA LA IIP EA IFP etc. etc is all fine and dandy.
I welcome diversity and competition (while I do think there are too many parties lol)
But what I find difficult is the attitude that is prevalent among some where a descenting viewpoint or opinion is offered it is almost considered (and with some people, actual) treason.
Guys people here need to chill out, disagree alight, but disagree with respectful language.
I really don't care what you say/think in private but when posting in public on articles etc. why can't you just temper down the rhetoric...it is very off-putting. (I know I occasionally fail on this also)
Come on people...we can do better!
Yddub , I am aware that this is browbeating and unprofessional thing to do but I stand behind every word I wrote. Only thing I regret is writing it emotional enough to leave a few "cracks" where people were allowed to misinterprete the text.
When someone like Dan Breen writes an article in which the Family is signed it has to be viewed as a collectives voice on the matter. If people do not clearly distinct themselves from what was written than I ,as an Irish citizen, have a right to express my opinion. Doesn't matter if I know enough good individuals ,what was written in families name for past couple of days is appalling and certainly does no good to the community.
Don't involve ILP or LA in this as its my personal opinion.
I do not seek for any gain from this, it is not my intention to troll nor to insult any individual.
If this gets to be the last article of the sort in eIreland than I'll view it as a success
if not, it will be a mere drop in the sea of crap Irish community has been swimming through lately.
You do realise Dan Breen is probably the biggest troll ever to play in e-Ireland? That is quite an achievement. You do realise that he has been kicked out of the MU countless times but keeps re-joining? You do realise he is banned from the #eICA channel?
He trolled you. Hard. And you releasing silly articles like this taking a swipe at a huge part of the community here just means he succeeded. If he put on an ILP avatar and started trolling us do you think we'd release butthurt articles blaming ILP? Nah, we'd troll him personally, and hard. Trolling is a part of this game, there is NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO STOP IT. so if you do not like that, quit. Well done taking the bait and getting trolled by the master, Kurdt.
And because he is "the biggest troll in Ireland" everybody else has to stand in awe and take his shit? Besides, the article he published is not trolling, it's mudslinging/directly attacking another candidate. That's not trolling. That's a really low political campaign.
Now, i don't think Kurdt accused anyone of being a "family" or a "godfather" or other stuff like that. Dan Breen (and others) say so themselves. Finally, i am sorry, i never realised that ICA is sacred and critisising it/attacking it equals to blasphemy. We are really sorry for that, honestly, we will wash our mouths with soap next time we speak about ICA.
Finally, it doesn't take a 200 IQ to realise that the article is not against ICA as a whole, but against certain members of ICA, who like to call themselves "family".
/facepalms
The whole family thing is a joke. Grow up and stop getting so offended by it because if you do get offended by it then I'm afraid an IQ of 200 is only something you can dream about.
There is negative stuff said about me all the time, almost on a daily basis and not just in the days leading to this election, a lot more frequent than what gets thrown at you guys. I accept it as part of the game that I cannot do anything about, and I get on with playing the game. Maybe if the rest of you done the same you might actually earn the right to do anything other than moan about how things are shit all the time. Seriously if you're all that f*cking depressed about the state of the place then why do you bother playing? It's only a game and you cannot stop trolls from trolling. People need to learn that the same code of ethics does not apply here as it does in real life and there is nothing we can do to enforce that anyway. I too made that same mistake you are making for a long time. Then I learned how to play this shitty game.
Ok, if Dan's article is your idea of trolling, then Kurdt's article is trolling too. You got trolled bro.
" Seriously if you're all that f*cking depressed about the state of the place then why do you bother playing?"
We are not depressed at all. We are just expressing our opinions and try to change the state of the place. If you don't like it..... um sorry, there is nothing you can do.
"The whole family thing is a joke."
Tottally agreed.
"Grow up and stop getting so offended by it because if you do get offended by it then I'm afraid an IQ of 200 is only something you can dream about."
No one is offended. Personally, i find it a joke as you said, although not in the funny meaning, in the kinda pathetic meaning of the word.
"Ok, if Dan's article is your idea of trolling, then Kurdt's article is trolling too. You got trolled bro"
Trolling= to cause unwanted emotions
I just find this article pointless, so no haven't been trolled sorry. Dan Breen has obviously trolled you guys successfully. It's clear for anyone to see.
"We are just expressing our opinions and try to change the state of the place"
Yes, but the point is your opinion means jack-shit. Please don't take that the wrong way. What I mean is, most people complaining have done NOTHING to help the country progress in any way. Getting up and doing stuff and offering to help out in any way you can actually means something. Sitting there and calling the people who put in massive amounts of time into making the country a success, "pathetic" because they have a little fun with some fictional Godfather characters on the side is just funny, in the kinda butthurt meaning of the word.
Anyways, Yddub dropped the hammer on you guys, so I dunno why you're still going on about this. Everyone knows to stfu and stop digging the hole once they've pissed Yddub off, silly.
" Dan Breen has obviously trolled you guys successfully. It's clear for anyone to see."
Well, if attacking people, insulting, mudslinging and presenting logs of doubtful origins is trolling for you, ok, i rest my case
".Yes, but the point is your opinion means jack-shit. Please don't take that the wrong way. What I mean is, most people complaining have done NOTHING to help the country progress in any way. Getting up and doing stuff and offering to help out in any way you can actually means something. Sitting there and calling the people who put in massive amounts of time into making the country a success, "pathetic" because they have a little fun with some fictional Godfather characters on the side is just funny, in the kinda butthurt meaning of the word."
Well, this is your opinion, so not only is not true and i disagree, it also means jack-shit. Please don't take that the wrong way.
To close up the whole thing, you can play as you like. If you like calling yourself "Family" etc, it's fine by me. It's not my kind of humor, but i honestly recognise you have the right to play the game in whatever way you like. What you can't do, is offend people (or do other stuff) just because you think you have the right. You have worked a lot for this community. I accept that, and i honestly congratulate you. That does not mean you can do anything you like though. And even if you clearly believe you can tell us to shut up because in your mind we have done nothing for the community, i have some news. Unfortunately, we can speak our mind and there is nothing you can do.
Where have I said you can't speak your mind? I am just urging you to get more involved with helping to run the country because that is the only chance that these problems of both sides trolling each other will ever disappear. Working for your own party/MU is all grand, but I haven't seen too much evidence that you guys have stepped forward to help run the country. I've helped out when I was a new player and did so without official titles, even when the opposition parties at the time(IFP and IUP) had compete dominance over all elections and had the presidency month after month. The ICA still helped out in every possible way we could to make the country better and offered whatever help we could. We didn't sit there are throw shit at people who actually were working.
Recently WHS stepped down from a Government position over a party political dispute. His party was more important that doing the job he said he would do for the country.
Kurdt has already admitted here that last term he decided that if his friend lost the elections, then Ireland would have to do without his services.
This is the type of thing I am talking about.
If I win the election do you want a position to help out? Let me know and I'll find you something, plenty of work to be done and you can be sure the same group of people are sick of doing it alone and getting nothing but whinging and moaning thrown at them as thanks.
"When someone like Dan Breen writes an article in which the Family is signed it has to be viewed as a collectives voice on the matter."
No, it doesn't, and there's nothing ICA can do to control it if he chooses to publish an article though I did notice he removed "The Family's view" or whatever the expression was.
"Don't involve ILP or LA in this as its my personal opinion."
I didn't involve ILP. Members of ILP did, and apparently stil are. This is my party as well Kurdt and I was expressing my disappointment. I do the same to ICA members when I disagree and have had public exchanges with them when I do. Including IBhoy. It's time to work together, not take part in insulting one another. I'll be the first to admit that some of my brothers in the ICA are some master storm brewers but I have to say I'm surprised to see some of my ILP brothers involved in this type of commenting.
Ok I'll just answer the lines where I have been mentioned.
IB: Kurdt has already admitted here that last term he decided that if his friend lost the elections, then Ireland would have to do without his services.
I had every reason to believe that WHS is going to win. Also, seeing Chew's cabinet and all the names and numbers I just couldnt see my name on the list.
After these elections I will be in the goverment if either you or Marcus win.
Ireland was always above party politics for me so dont mention me as an example of sectarianism.
After the last elections I was honestly thrilled , it was a great success for Irish community.
I wrote an article about it congratulating both Chew and WHS, if you wanna read it its named "Cookies for everyone"
Yddub ,ok I realise now, Breen is a troll but reading the last articles comments nothing could persuade me that its not an official family opinion
Anyway I agree, we should stop bitching and start working together.
I've been subjected to the ICA's wrath before. As much as I want to forget, I can never. I will say this, The Family kiss my ass.
You guys have done much for eIreland, but whenever someone voices differently you seriously become ugly. Keep up the good work, lay off the "trolling". We all are a part of one country, how about we think in terms like that?
just a reminder
"Recently WHS stepped down from a Government position over a party political dispute. His party was more important that doing the job he said he would do for the country"
Just to remind people... http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/why-i-resigned-1969734/1/20
I also did what I said I would and offered an alternative choice at the next election.
I was not accepted as is the right of the citizens of eIreland.
anyway back to your "debate"
Well fkin'el lads, ^that an awful lot of whining and self-justification.
Kurdt can have any opinion he likes, can't you see the irony in your comments?
I agree with him. cos he's RIGHT.
Oh, and as for the ol' "what have you done for Ireland" routine, get real.
It's never been for Ireland, its always been for selfgain. Please stop thinking anyone is buying that crap anymore.
I'm ignoring Yddub altogether, because despite all of his brow(n)beating, he's kinda nice 🙂
Grainne for possibly the first time I find myself disagreeing with you.
Yddub is, in fact, an asshole. I have the proof if you'd like to see the logs.
Excuse me Mr Horseyman, I never said anything about you NOT being an a**hole. I don't need to see the logs to know THAT, silly 😛!
But even so, you're still kinda nice, and far too good for the whiney fgts xD