Oblige forces Speaker of the House to Resign!
Israel Stevens
On Friday, a rather large piece of news went mostly unnoticed. One of America’s national treasures, and beloved citizens, rainy sunday, resigned from Congress. For those unaware, rainy is currently the Speaker of the House, so her resignation from Congress came as a shock to those that noticed it.
While it is true, that the United States Constitution allows citizens to be Speaker of the House, without actually being a Congressman in game, it is rare, and has only happened on a handful of occasions. And to have the current Speaker resign is even more rare.
But rainy’s resignation was not without cause. She resigned because she wants no part in supporting Oblige’s administration after a bevy of personal attacks from the President. She thinks he should be impeached, but also recognizes that she is heavily biased and believes that she should not have a vote in the matter. She will be remaining as the Speaker, but won’t be able to vote in game, going forward.
You can read all of Madam Speaker’s comments here, in this thread.
Even though my opinion is also heavily biased, I believe that this sort of behavior is unacceptable from our President. Congressional matters are not the business of the President, and under no circumstances should he be influencing the Speaker of the House to resign from Congress. This is yet another instance of Oblige burying anyone that disagrees with him. While having political rivals is fine, attacking them to the point where they resign, is intolerable. Rainy is one of the nicest people in this game. When I first started writing articles, she sent me a PM and told me that she liked my paper, and encouraged me to keep writing. There needs to be more people like rainy sunday in this game.
I am outraged that this has happened, and you should be as well.
Comments
fail rainy sunday
Just one more example of Oblige alienating those who work hardest for the country.
I'd like to hear the other side of the story.
*silenced
Oblige:
"Not to speak on her behalf, but rainy told me she resigned in game due to being out of proposals and CS approvals."
Rainy Sunday:
"It's true that I've used all cs passes and both my proposals on donations already. The reason for my in game resignation, yes, I was being overwhelmed with cs request spam and trolling, but more than that it's self-imposed forced abstention from the remainder of proposals. I want no vote in supporting the remainder of his administration or in determining the outcome of his impeachment, no matter how deserved I think it may be. I am personally biased and capable of admitting it. He's attacked my character on a very personal, nonprofessional level and I will not be bullied into submission or silence by an obnoxious twit in an internet game.
[22:15] Oblige|Busy ultimatley you can play this game solo
[22:16] Oblige|Busy but it isn't very fun
/fin"
I can't post Pfieffer's response as he uses a lot of profanity towards Oblige.
Only one word - Disgraceful
Oblige should resign if he had any pride.
i could honestly care less
another example of why ePolitics are eRetarded.
Glad I didn't vote for him.
what personal attacks. I don't wanna log in to a forum.
there has to be more to this story.
Just for the record, she's still Speaker.
What Henry said, I've not seen a resignation post from her.
Oblige fail
She is still Speaker, just not as a member of Congress.
Leadership rule #4: A true leader works for all he or she leads, not the other way around
Ya know... I don't have a problem with Oblige. We had a time where he rubbed me the wrong way and I responded. It is over, I don't hold grudges just because someone doesn't do things the way I want or they do not agree with me. But...
This is ridiculous. I do not know anything but what I've seen here and I saw a shout the other day by Rainy. If this is actually what happened (and I trust Israel to not spread misinformation) I AM NOT PLEASED! As a matter of fact the word "pissed" comes to mind. I don't hang around in Rainy's circles nor do we PM frequently but we have worked together before and I know her character. I would trust Rainy to do anything for me. She is possibly the hardest working, most dependable player in eRep.
Well, continue on, deal the crap back and forth. Trash up shit, I don't care. Just keep in mind that some people remember this.
I'm actually kind of curious as to what Oblige actually said. I don't suppose there is any evidence supporting the allegations purported in this article is there?
This is getting ridiculous.
Is there more to this story? This is a pretty sensationalist headline from a recent presidential candidate. Not everyone is on IRC 24/7, so please post IRC logs if that's where the proof can be found. Otherwise, I don't see this as anything more than desperate political posturing.
Based on what I have seen from rainy, I was a bit suprised by the lack of stateswomanship in public comments lately. Name calling like "twit" and "sewer rat" (Gnilraps) don't sit well for this prospective voter. If Oblige has won 4 terms by doing the opposite and pushing buttons privately, sorry but that's politics. Win the PR game by showing some proof.
You have the same amount of proof that I do, that being rainy's statement in the forum thread linked above. I'm not privy to what was said between Oblige and rainy, and unless rainy decides to leak them, I doubt we'll ever know.
rainy is one of the most stand up people in the game, I see no reason to dispute anything she has said.
\o/
Interesting Article, I look forward to additional updates regarding the matter.
Additionally, it might be easier to screenshot relevant sections of cited threads and upload to the article to streamline presentation.
i read this article again and i still dont see anywhere that oblige "forced" rainy to resign besides the title...
eDrama looks like eDrama
Welcome to the US Congress.
The level of political discourse has fallen to the level of a 3rd grade schoolyard.
Open your mouth in the Congressional threads on almost topic, no matter how diplomatically, and you can be assured you will be subjected to personal attacks by cyber-bullies who make the Jerry Springer Show look like the Algonquin Round Table.
Yes, Americans, that's who you've elected to high office and leadership positions.
It won't be long before any rational person asked to run for congress will only smile ruefully, and shake their head "no".
Then, the sewer rats who run the place can have it all to themselves.
If you look at what I posted I copy/pasted off the forums.
Time to kick out Oblige
W. A. H.
IMPEACH HIM!
kick him out now
Different flotsam, same maelstrom. ah well, maybe it's to a slightly lesser degree in eUSA, I hope.
I am not privy to any of the mentioned situations, how can I be when I can not even see what Congress is discussing; maybe we need an eCSPAN. The American voters need quit selling their votes for tanks, wake up and smell the burning bacon or soon we will have to invite the Canadians to join the drama, wouldn't that be a kick in head; hey!
"It won't be long before any rational person asked to run for congress will only smile ruefully, and shake their head "no"." x2
JBB, for once I completely agree with you. Anyone wondering about me, forget it. A ton would have to change first. I personally don't think that anyone interested in doing real work in Congress has a chance anymore.
There was a day that people earned the privilege of being nominated to run for Congress. They knew how to do the job BEFORE they got there. (You may call that elitism if you like.) But that's one pickles opinion.
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what the fuck is Plato putting in the water. Whole eWorld has gone and fallen off the turnip truck
Ugh... I hate this drama shit... why Stevens? Just.. *shakes head*
Oblige fail ctm.
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/what-039-s-up-with-spain--1989288/1/20
I like rainy though what this actually is ( I think) would be oblige geting rid of the elite's that have been in power for way over the amount of time they should have. If anyone hasnt ever noticed its the very same group of people in control of the U.S before I served three terms in congress and still after.
Its a power struggle I know from personal exp not hard to see those in power and being put out and they dont like it end of story.
I agree with RVR:
If Rainy cannot 'be bullied into submission...' how could Oblige 'force' her resignation?
The title of this article is quite misleading, Rainy seems to still be the speaker of the house and her reasoning for resignation from congress seems to have been misrepresented within this article.
This seems to be a simple case of 'what comes around, goes around'.
Not long ago, I read Rainy's comments to Gnilraps' article about the PTO takeovers, well written with a lot of work. Then I read Rainy's vitriolic comments and unwarrented personal/vulgar attack on Gnilraps, this without so much as addressing a single valid point in his article.
Perhaps what's good for the gander is also good for the goose?. After the 'dirty tricks' played on Oblige in the last election, I would think that apologies would be few and far between.
@Archfeldspar, I believe you may be over analyzing the situation. What we are seeing is simply the breakdown of structure in the eUS govt. This has been building for quite some time now. It is a house of cards now, anyone that truly understood how the game politic was play is gone or only comes in for cameo appearances.
Rainy & Gnilraps are both quality people, the problem is that there was no intervening force to prevent the two from harming one another. This problem starts in the parties folks. Believe it or not, party politics is very important in the way this part of the game works. Anymore party politics is a joke.
Blah, blah, blah, rant, rant, blah...
"This seems to be a simple case of 'what comes around, goes around'.
Not long ago, I read Rainy's comments to Gnilraps' article about the PTO takeovers, well written with a lot of work. Then I read Rainy's vitriolic comments and unwarrented personal/vulgar attack on Gnilraps, this without so much as addressing a single valid point in his article.
Perhaps what's good for the gander is also good for the goose?. After the 'dirty tricks' played on Oblige in the last election, I would think that apologies would be few and far between." x2
Most 'to the point' comment on here. Agree 100%
Pickl, I agree with you on your first point, as anyone who has visited the cesspool that is the eUSA forums would attest. The structure to vitriol ratio is a national embarassment, and occasionally spills out to the in-game comments. With that said, I really don't think there needs to be an arbitrator to ensure civil conduct toward a fellow citizen, as one should have the maturity to contain themselves.
As you said earlier, "some people remember this" type of thing. I know I will. It's hard to forget when you see the same pack lighting up every thread. And sadly, you will usually find Israel running astride, while claiming to distance himself from the circus.
Anyway, it appears that Oblige has bigger problems now:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/the-basis-of-quot-our-quot-decision-1990024/1/20
An example of why I left eUS, shitty epolitics.
It's not too late for the others, leave before it's too late!!!!!
Oblige attacked the one and only RainySunday, he out to be sent to the Guillotine.