Liberty Forever: The Society of United Irishmen
Brian Boru
Irishmen and Irishwomen,
I would like to introduce a new party; the Society of United Irishmen. Named for the revolutionaries of the 1798 Rebellion, the party aims to build on our past achievements and look to the future.
As such, the Society of United Irishmen is a centre party. Ireland has come very far in its ideas about the military, economy and political organisation from the dark days of stagnation and neutrality, and it must be recognised now that contributions can come from citizens of all political persuasions.
The party is also a Republican party, acknowledging that Ireland unfree can never be at peace, that only a State that upholds the equality of its citizens is legitimate, and that every citizen has the right to exercise national sovereignty through their representatives and the referendum process.
Lastly, the party is dedicated to radical solutions where they are necessary, understanding that transforming society is the first step to greater strength, equality and unity.
I hope you will join us.
Brian Boru,
Party President
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No wayne no vote!
Wayne. <- There.
Needs to be contained in the article... I know you irish are dumb, but thats taking the piss...
Got Moose? Got beer.
Good luck Brian.
Thanks.
Ah what the hell, I'm in.
Naysayers be damned. If we do it right, I bet we can make this a top five party by the end of the summer.
Lad.
Hahaha I take that back. At the rate we are growing we will be in the top five by the end of the WEEK!
Liberty or Death
Yep.
Wow, those votes I got came in WAAAAAY late.
And to anyone worried that I'm going to spam articles and them buy votes for them, don't be: This was an announcement is all.
Hey, guys, why nobody publish articles in Gaeilge?
Because about half the country aren't Irish in reality, and a quarter of us are from NI as well I would reckon. In short, very few would understand.
Best of luck. What is your party's intent if it gets into power?
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Here are some of the ideas I've founded the party to go forward with.
Interesting, as on paper:
A centre-party that embraces contributions from across the political spectrum.
A party for citizens loyal to a democratic and sovereign eIreland.
A progressive party that embraces those ideas most appropriate to our evolving challenges.
You should have just joined EA Boru. You're welcome to, good luck anyway.
Lol
U sold out ur party ian
The first point I'll give you.
The second part I cannot give you as many of your members, past and present, were involved in PTO efforts against a legitimately established opposition party, and others have used foreign funding to domestic political gain. I fail to see why you tolerated these people Ian, and it's that which prevents me from joining EA.
I have not seen particularly radical proposals coming out of EA either, beyond "let's invade the UK and to hell with the consequences". I haven't heard anything that would make me believe you have radical and fundamental plans to change the country.
I don't want to pull this into a discussion of controversy surrounding the political mess that was going on right around your Cp term, but I will say that I believe the merger of EA and Saoirse helped to calm tensions even if I have to concede that I didn't agree with the attitudes/potential actions of many eIrish citizens during that time.
As far as tolerance goes, you can't block out political groups because you think they shouldn't be "tolerated" (by which I mean you literally have no way of doing this). Aside from it being unfair to apply that double standard to a political convenient target, it's more constructive to go to both sides of these conflicts and create an understanding and work toward a fair-play democracy, rather than condemning and alienating them which only causes them to be more likely to disregard democracy and fairness (what do they then have to lose?).
EA doesn't operate in an ideal political world and it wont pretend to either. I'm confident in the operation and foundation of EA as being strongly conducive to a democratic and sovereign eIreland.
In terms of radical proposals - we've been highly supportive of many reforms and changes as time has gone on. Remember though that being open to change is about recognizing the time for change and the opportunities. We don't have to do a 180 every month and we can implement progress incrementally - I think overall that's a more practical and effective outlook.
Seriously though, if you don't like EA feel free to join us and make us better. There's always lots of room for improvement.
It's not so much a statement on your people, many of you are very good, but I think a fresh start is needed to avoid the whole feud.
I would join EA, and believe me I have been sooo close to doing just that a few times. But then I ask myself: what would be the challenge in that? EA is already a top five party with a history and established reputation and rivalries. I honestly want to see if we can start a party from scratch and make it strong and effective and respected in just a few months. Just for the fun of it. This is a game, after all.
Besides, a little competition is good for stimulating activity and providing perspective. I think all Irish parties could benefit from a little of that right now!
Ye, that's fair enough.
The ongoing challenge is to re-establish ourselves and overcome rivalries so that we're addressing issues not just political opponents. I think EA still has a way to go before it can be a vehicle and not just a target.
I agree about a little competition etc, and good luck to you guys. It just struck me how similar this is to EA at the outset on paper.
Ian, I don't have to and shouldn't join a party where key members were involved in the suppression of our democracy. That is the concern here, it isn't with the party as a whole, but the continued membership and position of those people in your party. That isn't a tolerance issue, I'm willing to work with EA as I am with any party, I am willing to support EA candidates if they meet the criteria that our party put forth for selection. But it is a perfectly legitimate consideration when I decide what party I want to be a part of. I'm sure you would feel the same about Labour. As it happens, I don't want to be part of any of the old parties at present, bar IV maybe, but they're a diverse group rather than a cohesive party and they're welcome to be that.
Change can be incremental yes, but we're at a moment in time where it is clear that slow change won't fix our problems. Radical change can work and has worked at such moments, when our flaws are fully exposed in the fire of war. It is an ongoing process. Innovation and political enterprise is lacking in all parties in this country, not just EA, and as someone who values both dearly, I thought a new party would be best. It's not about 180s every month, it's about recognising problems and then fixing them. Revolution is merely the exposure of fundamental problems and then the appropriate solution.
Lack of political cooperation is one such problem, and we must be revolutionary in our approach, and I can speak for all the party members, present and future, that we look forward to working with EA to get reforms through.
Why would I feel that way about Labour? I don't believe a lot of the accusations attributed to them and as far as the conflict goes they're just the flip-side of the same coin. In fact what I said about how I'm against alienating and condemning large groups holds more true for them than anyone else. And I think it really brings home my point when you consider the talent and knowledge that's been walled out of our government because of people who think they're taking the moral high-ground.
I read your latest article and I think it's great! A lot of those ideas have been around with us for a long time and I think you've collected the solutions and laid them out brilliantly. Why haven't they been done already? Because it's hard to do repairs in flight and because there hasn't been a great enough base of involvement in my opinion. Too many people with great ideas and energy are either exclude themselves, or are excluded by others from contributing constructively.
At the end of the day EA is a politically influential body and so I hope that in one way or another you will work with us to make things better, because I want to see improvement as much as you do.
Hilarious. You troll every article for people calling for unity, then create a party of united Irishmen. Also, since this article presents zero new ideas, can we chalk this up to the same old rhetoric and call it self-serving? I wish you the best of luck, as unity is needed in this country, but can't respect this "idea" or you, due to all the hypocrisy.
You don't create unity by simply stating that you want it, you engage with the political process in order to create it. Me being critical of your lack of plan or engagement towards the objective is perfectly legitimate in that context.
Nothing hypocritical about it. Besides, the name is from the revolutionaries of the 1798 Rebellion, it's not one I came up with myself.
I would say you're not fit to be a representative of the people if you believe your first statement. The history books are full of people that circumvented the "political system" to unify themselves and bring about change. As for my previous article, I'll say it again...it was to unite people into battle and as such, didn't need to be this 5-point plan (which this article doesn't provide either) imploring a political movement of some kind.
As for the second part, I sai😛 "You created a party of united Irishmen", then you spun the words saying you didn't create the name of it. You DID create a party and you DID choose the name of it, even if someone else created the name and cause long ago.
I'm sorry, but this is more of the same and thusly, hypocritical considering your stance towards those that have spoken up about the exact same things in the past.
The difference between rhetoric and intent is action my friend.
A) You need to look up the definition of the word. You've gotten it wrong twice now. I'm happy to provide, if you can't do it yourself.
😎 Passing out over 700 weapons that were used against the Brits was action.
You sound like you need a hug.
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