It's your turn comrades and friends
Riggy
Dear comrades, socialists, humanists, eTurkish people,
As you can see from my past articles, me and my political party have always opposed this war.
We were against it even before it started.
Personally i' ve been pushing for better turkish-greek relations even from my early days in erep : [url] http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-1-1042152/1/20 [/url]
We campained against the war and we made it the central position of the program of our candidate (Laos22) for presidential elections.
We were already campaining against it more than a month ago : http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-what-is-at-stake-in-these-elections-1047618/1/20
And we refused to fight to conquer eTurkey regions : http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-i-refuse-to-fight-1085465/1/20
Today your state is attacking Central Greece. If central Greece is conquered, then our economy will be cripled and the rest of our country could easilly follow.
It’s not about losing some pixels on the map of a fictional world.
What we fear of losing is our right to play the game in our language. What we fear of losing is our political party, our community.
We’ve done our part, we refused to fight against you.
It’s your turn now. Don’t press the Central Greece button. Get your xp elsewhere on the globe.
Solidarity
Comments
Ha Ha Ha.... Are you out of your mind ??? Crybaby....
Don't fear we are going to leave you a region 😁
well, i'm pretty much prepared to get all kind of negative comments from turkish nationalists
i'm used to it, we get the same kind of comments from greek nationalists
so you really shouldn't bother commenting in this way
however, one positive comment from a turkish comrade is worth 100 negative ones from blind nationalists
@OLUMODASI
There's a link next to that. A link to an article also in english. Check it. Check the other links also.
Almost all my comrades refuse to fight to conquer eTurkish regions. And we are 117. And we have field marshals.
It's the real stuff 😉
Our ideas are well known.
We live with these ideas.
We (the Greek Left) did not take part in any attack against a turkish region.
We did this because these are our principals.
WE DONT BEG ANYONE. We never did and we will never do so.
We will fight like hell, anyone that will invade our country, our home. No matter if he is Turk, English, Brazilian, or from the holy state of Vatican. 😉
We will also fight against anyone that attacks ANY country.
This is NOT a fight Greeks vs Turks!
This is the same fight that keeps going on. Human vs Beast.
ITS YOUR CHOICE!
Do you want to be Human? Then behave like one, and reach out for our hand.
Do you want to be a Beast?... In that case i could say "Come and get it!", but i dont like words, i 'll show it with actions.
Well, what about it comrades?
v+s now its your turn EDEN
I disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
lol
Riggy, your country started this war... Our leaders told you that they want peace, but your people said "are you afraid?" "go to mountians you barbarians" "mongols" etc...
It's your destiny now... Sorry for that...
@Gabriel Mequer
As laos22 said, there never was and there is not a conflict between Turks and Greeks. There is only a conflict between man and beast. And each one of us, choses his side.
This war goes a lot back after all. Wasn't eGreece occupied by eTurkey in the past? Trying to find who's most in the blame won't solve anything. What we must do is simply put an and to it.
We are pressing our government. One of our congressment made an impeachement proposal a couple of days ago. We will campaign for liberation then peace in the coming elections.
If you are on the men side, you should do the same.
Voted! I'm fully supporting your ideas about Turkish Fascist Regime. But in eTurkey there isn't any real socialist party or people. There're only comprador left-wingers.
You can't convince them...
not voted
Not voted. Turks are Turks, Greeks are Greeks. We differ, we are not the same. Each of us has his own culture, his own language, his own traditions, his own history, his own pride. We are not the same. We all differ, stop globalization. We are going to be converted to slaves for the powers you promote with your foul preachings, intenionally or unintenionally.
I really hope a couple of Turkish comrades could step forward and prove you wrong Utku, but i guess you know better.
Not being the same doesn't make us ennemies Mister101.
Now do me a favor and don't get me started in here.
you start this war..we are socialist but you have a fascist and imperialist regime...We are fighting against it...sorry to Greek socialists
Legolas, that's crap comrade 😃
Read my reply to Gabriel Mequer.
DEN TO PISTEVO OTI KATHESE BONATISTOS KAI PARAKALAS TOUS MEMETIDES NA MIN MAS EPITETHOUN....ELEOS PIA ...NISAFI TOSO HTOPATHEIA?...TOSI OSFYOKAMPSIA?........not voted
Hmmm 🙂i hope u can do what u say...Then peace is achieved comrades
Well makis, it's either there are comrades in eTurkey willing to take an international stance, either we buckle up our comrades from all over the world and kick this fascist hole in the @@, remorse free...
Riggy you are bringing RL ideologies in a game... plz. Do you also feel remorse about driving a car on a pedestrian at GTA? If you ever wanted to do something stupid, it is 1.000 better to do it in a game than in real life imo.
Although good relations with Turkey even in a virtual world would be a welcome change from the typical (i am a greek , i am a turk, i am a christian, i am a muslim, now let's fight 😛), it is a well known fact that at a certain time we were at the same alliance and attempts were made for good relations here. And guess what? e - Turkey blew it all up when they conquered us out of the blue while we were at the same alliance. And as you can see e - Turks suffer from the same weird memory loss rl Turks suffer, they only remember bad events that happen to them, and they entirely forget what bad events others suffer because of their actions, a very selective memory indeed. Now for example they only remember that we attacked them, and entirely forget that all the days before they were constantly attacking us, at at a time even conquered us, while we did nothing to them until recently. Man that is some strange peculiar selective memory indeed, don't know what these people smoke really >_<.
This whole war has started on RL reasons Link. Read what our president says : http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-1-1111657/1/20" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-1-1[..]1/20
It's not only the Turks, greek nationalists also suffer from a memory loss.
Let's bring everybody's memory back.
Sorry mister101 but in this war everybody is slave of erepublic.com's slaves... trade died and war boosted by golds with help of admin by training...
And peace wont come in erepublic but we are not different mister101. In Ottoman times greek sailors were fight for Ottoman navy. And also we are really not different. I have 2-3 greek friends and they are same with us too. All of Balkan counties people are fully same...
This differences made by England for using Greeks against Russia and France before the WW1 at Mediteraen Sea as a sea base for Suez Canal... Why all of respected Ottoman peoples "suddenly" remember "we are under command of Turks! lets fight against it"...
But this is a game and we will fight to the end 🙂 but in real as you see if there is a war between us there will be lots of blood. So dont made same mistakes in real life as a government 🙂
This is a trick ı think. SOrry, just trying to make atack weaker.
Thanks Muhtar, if you stay a bit longer in the game, you'll find out that in erep, game and RL mix a lot more than in any other game. It's more of a geopolitical simulation based a lot on RL, rather than a fantasy game like others.
IGC Corp, a whole political party is a trick, an impeachement proposal is a trick, 2 months old articles are a trick? What is a trick?
I believe in Riggy...Winner will be people !
Sorry Riggy and Leqolas but that is point of this game 😉 do you think that this game for only trade? this is a nationalism game. So war will always appear between us. Nobody could stop it.
I give 2 good example.
America doesnt have any level 3 iron mine. But Brazil have so America will try to take iron at all cost.
Turkey dont have Iron but Greece have however Greece dont have grain but Turkey have so there will be 2 options normally
Good allies, or worst enemies.
If admin wanna us to make "good allies" they should take back iron and put level 3 wood. Greece make wooden companies turkey food so there wont be any conflicts. But greece have iron and weapon boost so greece always have an "aggresive card" against us. Admins wanna boost nationalism so they put this trade conflicts...
There will be only winner: erepublik...
This is indeed a war game Muhtar, the basis of the economy is war. However, there are wars and wars, and the choise of which to fight is ours to make.
As for the ressources question, it is an illusion to bellieve that you can keep CG occupied and profit, just like it's an illusion for us to bellieve that we can keep the Mediteranean Coast occupied and profit. If it's about prosperity, we should just sign a trade aggreement. Look at the money burned for war declarations and you'll get my point i bellieve.
"This is a trick ı think. SOrry, just trying to make atack weaker."
No it is not a trick, it is just the ideology of a part of Greeks that kneel very far left politically, and they don't believe in nations, just in people. Cosmopolitans or communists in a sense... Personally i am against their ideology, but indeed they didn't fight against e-Turkey when we attacked, only to defend, and that part is not a lie or a trick.
Thing they don't understand is that people tend to make company mostly with people which they share some things in common. That is a nation in a sense, and going against this idea is similar to going against the idea of people making a party. Actually if they don't like the nations discretion they should also break their own party first, because a nation is just a common party of people that share similar charachteristics in a grand scale.
And Riggy to answer you, he also had game reasons to want the destruction of e - Turkey. They constantly occupied us with their attacks when we could help our allies. And a little e - revenge probably for our previous occupation. How old are you btw? Remember - it is a game, better here than out there, let some nationalists blow off some steam if they want.
No Link, the attacks of eTurkey were just free TW for us. Our army quickly got disciplined enough to completely ignored them. And i can't hardly understand revenge in such a failed way.
The reason they attacked was that they are 16 years old nationalists with no brains at all. That's why they attacked 🙁
we just need high iron region so it doesnt mean that we hate greeks..
dont take it serious, we want high iron and central greece is the closest region that have high iron..
You can't keep that ImHoTeP1907, you'll eventually lose it, even if you get it, then greeks will overun you and take your grain, then they will lose control of the region which they took from turkey, etc. This really isn't getting us anywhere. Fighting your neighbours in erep is a wrong strategy in my opinion. Doing it in the Balkans is an even worse idea. Even objectively speaking, ideology put aside. Cause every time a region is conquered, there's a nationalist baby boom, from all kind of nationalist sites and ... you can guess what follows.
If people seriously wanted to win this game military, they should have good relations with their neighbours and go fight in the other side of the globe 🙂 .
Pls look at that who started war???
And who attacked 1.. times on our land?
Pls talk with your president for retreat XD
"Pls look at that who started war???"
Ehm, Kemal actually you started this war, we basically counterattacked after being on the defensive end for months.
WHAT!!!
YOU ATTACKED MANY TİMES ON Aegean Coast AND Mediterranean Coast
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Link_to_the_past:
Our leader Mustafa Kemal only defensed our country, not yours! And then this war between we and you isn't about real-life! We just need an IRON land... If we want to destroy Greece, I confince you we can do... But not, we just need another res.
look... Turks are Peaple Greeks Are Peaple what a Different??
both of them have 2 eyes 1 nose and mouth... i'm fighting only on Defence side!!!
this is a game for god's sake. it's not like you are actually going to lose something. so act like a man and just defend your lands, like we're going to act like men and make you pay for trying to invade our lands.
sorry for missunderstand of kerutor...
kerutor kemal diye adamın belirttiği kişi "kemal selahattin" ... mesajını silersen sevinirim
@Link_to_the_past:
This war between we and you isn't about real-life! We just need an IRON land... If we want to destroy Greece, I confince you we can do... But not, we just need another res.
"WHAT!!!
YOU ATTACKED MANY TİMES ON Aegean Coast AND Mediterranean Coast
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Yes we did, after you attacked us many times at the Aegean islands we had an open war and counter attacked recently. So if you wonder who STARTED this war, you did. Ask an older Turkish player if you want >_<. Personally i am just level 17 and still participated against you in a couple of those attacks.
And ok kerutor, no hard feelings from me, i understand the conflicting interests here. But i don't think you can manage it easily, if at all to destroy us😛. The way i see it goes more for a stale mate really, neither can we i suppose.
Well, it's like Link says in his last post. All this is very stupid from a clearly strategical point of view. None of us two can really win this.
We are only in this mess because of RL political views. We should put that crap aside and take care of the interest of our people.
We really sould stop this war.
@Riggy
I agree with you that the war between us will not go anywhere. Both sides will burn all their golds and go back to their homelands. I am fairly new in this game but what I get until now is that, it is pretty tough to occupy another country's land and stay there for a long time. Especially, if they are fairly strong countries like eGreece and eTurkey. But wars and strtegy are the fun parts of this game and without that, it would be pretty dull in my opinion. Also, it would be very tough to convince the nationalists on both sides to live in peace in this virtual world where no one suffers really.
Nice to hear your opinion volcano76.
We just have to find other battles to fight 😉
But yes, convincing nationalists won't be easy.
RIGGY GO TO TURKEY, COMMUNIST... THERE ARE ALL YOUR BROTHERS. TURKS
Ρε μεθυσμένε !!! Τι είναι αυτά που ζητάς και γράφεις ?? Τι προσπαθείς να κάνεις ??? Ντροπή της χώρας είσαι. OY! Nα μου χαθείς!! Παιχνίδι είναι αλλά ακόμη κι εδώ μετράμε πολύ τους τρόπους μας. Ρεζιλεύεις τους παππούδες μας ρε !!!!
TURKS DONT LISTEN THIS MADNESS BOY. HE IS A FRIEND OF YOU NOT OUR. THE WAR IS UP. HAPPY NOW AND CRY LATER.
THE WAR WITH YOU NEVER ENDING
voted comrade...
voted
@Wolverian
(in real not erepublic)
You are already a shame to your country by supporting war against turks in RL. Your grandfathers died for england's interest. Lord Kinross put your grandfathers to an adventure at greko-turkish war at 1920s. But you still didnt learn anything from your parents fails. If you will learn anything from fails of your parents, they wouldnt die for nothing.
We didnt learn anything too... i am accepting but you are not... Normaly greece dont have any chance against army of turkish forces in real (your generals said that if Turkish army start a war, Athens could lose in 5 days) however we, turks, are saying peace in country peace in world but you are still "turks are bad" "lets fight to take our revenge"... we are occupied by your army but you are trying to take revenge... what a paradox...
Close enough, but not there muhtar.
As for history, if you are referring to 1922, greeks didn't fight for the english but for the liberation of our people. There happened to be a very important greek speaking minority in your country at the time. A minority that had resided there for thousands of years. The reason Greeks still feel bitter was the slaughter of Greeks in minor Asia and Instabul.
The reason of the faillure and the humanitarian drama has ofcourse been nationalism. Cause while most of the greek speaking regions had been liberated, greek nationalists wanted to conquer Ancara...
As for today, well, i guess it's more complex than that military. But most people don't want this war anyway.
But enough, i have to go party now 😃
Well, Muhtar, the churches are there, but where are the Greeks, the Jews and the Armenians? It's the same as what you are saying about Thessaloniki, althought Thessaloniki was never burned down in the brutal way Izmir was burned down by the Turks. The rest of the world had to invent the term genocide to describe what Kemal was doing you know.
The Ottoman empire was multiciltural (so was the Byzantine, which was not greek but roman). Nations states being built in the Balkans at the beggining of the 20th century were not supposed to be so. I bellieve that this tells most of the story. The only way to build today's states was to remove these people. It is common sense that it happened, and one doesn't need secret documents to understand it. I do not deny that greek state removed or assimilated other people. But you have to admit the same for your country.
For the rest i aggree. The Balkan people are fundamentaly the same. And this whole story was madness, which unfortunatelly still repeats itself (what happened in Yugoslavia in the 90s was part of the same process).