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why you insulting the great man that is Putin?

i'm not insulting , just call em as i se em .......and putin a great man........

he's a glorified Leprechaun...., with dictator like tendencies.... freedom of speach & press does not apply as he is concerned

yes Putin a great man.

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go and tell that to the relatives of the people from the mh-17 or the journalists that he had dissapear or killed.

You obviously don't have a clue what kind of person putin is ....but if you wanna believe he's a great man .......thats all up to you m8.

tell them what? as far as i know nothing has been proven yet. it could as well be the USA or Ukraine that did it...

sure m8 , the us also annexated the krim ...... believe what you wanna believe.
Think that all the sanctions from the UN are just there to have a little fun and annoy the people of russia a bit.....

To me he's just a glorified Leprechaun thug ....

What?
How it can be done by Ukraine or USA?

God save me.
One country occupied another, but you still believe in their lie.

Who sent a plane into the war zone? Putin? 😃

Btw. I didn't see any evidence that connects MH-17 to Putin or Novorossya, like the man said it might as well be the Ukrainians.

P.S.

UN didn't put any sanctions on Russian Federation, your just demonstrating your ignorance 🙂

I guess you never saw the BBC documentory on this. 😛
Buk came from Russia, and went back to Russia after firing their missile. 🙁

No m8, never seen it. did they provide any conclusive evidence?
have they shown serial no of the rocket and proved it was supplied by the Russian Federation?

Or did was it just a pile of bs?

It had actual eyewithness reports from locals who had seen the thing firing it's missiles, and then quickly been moved back to Russia. The same documentary was shown on our national tv.

link pls 🙂

That shows enough, thinking Putin is responsible for it. The buk was stolen from the Ukrainian army and fired by Ukrainian rebels. If it'd been the Ukrainian army that accidentally shot the plane, would the EU be responsible because they support their side? The Krim had a democratic vote to move away from Ukraine, perfectly within the Ukrainian legal system. Then again you do appear to have trouble with the difference between law and your opinion..

I have yet to see any evidence that links the rebels to the missile that shot down MH-17. I have yet to see any evidence that proves that rebels had a working Buk system, you know with target acquisition radar system and everything.

There was some intercepted comms right after it happened, and direct rebel intel they captured a buk days earlier that got removed the day after mh17. I still see it as a sad mistake though, not an act of terror. The word was spread there had been dogfights hours earlier, yet somewhere people didn't bother to put it through to mark it as a zone unfit for commercial planes.

Sorry, bro, but if I remember correctly that was proven to be a pile of bs posted on youtube 🙂

Anyway, I am not saying it wasn't the rebels. Just that I didn't see any hard evidence.

P.S.
Who the hell sends a civilian plane in a war zone?

From the NL/EU end there was no message it was a dangerous zone, they flew at a certain height that couldnt be hit by artillery or whatever. Turns out there has been some information about it but it wasn't passed on to any the commercial planes.

Bro, those sort of planes fly on 10.000 meters. Its way too high for AAA or MANPADS

Not high enough for a buk though 😛

True, now the question is who has a Buk.

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Ukrainian army certainly had it. Rebels possessed one launcher and we don't know if it was in working order. I dint see any evidence that the rebels had a target acquisition radar.
And, please note that a launcher without a target acquisition radar has very limited capabilities.

You know, not every treaty needs the congress approval...
This is the daily operations of the state and it does not need congress approval.
Regardless, I still fail to see any real arguments on the No vote. This is why we have all of this other attacks and distractions. No person ever give a logical reason on what we will gain from a no vote. In the end, a vote NO for the treaty is a vote for a wipe. So how is that beneficial?

here is where i can quote djirtsdew and agree totally with him on the daily operations bit "Nope, we don't sign treaties that often. So they're definitely not daily management.
Also treaties are meant to last more than a month. So also in that aspect they're definitely not something daily.
So indeed according to our lawbook our gov shouldn't sign treaties without first asking congress about it."

And i agree that a No vote has no benefits and we will gain nothing......, thats is what you get if you wanna bypass congress as a president and sign a treaty that isn't carried by a large portion of the community.

If the only argument to vote yes is surviving (on bread crums) and some minor financial benefits......
Thats no reason for me to just vote yes if i don't agree with it....
If government just followed the procedures than we wouldn't even have this discussion....... it would've passed probably.
But since government and the president thought to do what the want and as they please people might get a bit irritated and just not gonna give you what you want....

Thats the situation we've ended up in now and that is for you to deal with.....don't blame others for voting NO coz it doesn't fit you.
Just think where would things end up , maybe the next president feels fit to strike up a deal with for instance argentina....... does that mean it's daily operations to??

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Hasn't even been voted on yet? Ha!

exactly..... and now some of em want to discard it as daily operations...... and we should all vote yes coz the damage is already done.....
Most rediculous reason to vote for something i don't agree with coz it (the agreement) already has been activated .........

It doesn't fall under congress either if you'd bother to check the law. You only complain there's no vote and then do nothing about it, and when I start one you even have the nerve to complain I start one.

Don't know about that, I just know we always voted on treaties, especially those that concern the entire country. It was a matter of common sense really.

Well it does certainly appear common sense went out the window with this handful of heroic soldiers that certainly try to turn it into a shouting contest. If I'm a democratically elected CP, how am I not allowed to sign a treaty? Do we need a 40-man negotiation committee Aries?

mosterd na de maaltijd vriend , dus kom nou niet miauwen omdat t niet zo gaat als je gedacht had 😉

You really are one of the utterly dumbest persons I've met on erepublik. You deserve yourself.

you have a right to ur opinion ....... but ur answer says more about you than it says about me .
Just coz we disagree on things ......hmmmm to funny for words and an good political answer for a president that bends the rules as they go along to suit them.
Your previous avatar of that glorified Leprechaun thug suited you better ......

Sure, because your side didn't come first how I'm supposedly bragging about my connections and whatever and thus should have made a better deal. It's been personal attacks from the start and they don't seem to end.

There's a bug in my avatar update by the way, it currently is Putin.

it's not my side ....... we had to fill 40 congress seats and i came over to help out.
You and others projected me in a side .........i don't have a side like i said to konrad also.
Been without a political party for about a year to 18 months.......coz of the projected dualisme in NL.

And didn't you brag about how you would fix things with a flick of a finger????
Come on and be real....... honestly ... you gave me and others that impression..... so don't blame us that the deal you made is dissapointing to us ...

And it isn't personal.......... your just the president ..... and as president you are responsible for ur government.... so i adress you.
You are the one that signed that treaty isn't it.......than it would be a bit rediculous to direct my articles to for instance the MU commander or CoC or anyone else.
You signed it , not others......and now you come to me that i have a personal grudge ....... nope.
I've never met you so i can't say wheather ur a ok guy or a dickhead,.....so i can't have a personal grudge either...

I can't help it if you feel that its a personal attack , i can only asure you that it isn't....

I never had any intention to create an idea that I would negotiate a golden house and a victoria secrets model wife for everyone in exchange for our regions. I don't believe I did that. I do believe I made the most profitable deal when considering the longer term.

And how are these cartoons changed to reflect your view of this situation not personal attacks? Painting me like someone who backstabbed congress?

i never said you backstabbed congress , you've just bypassed it......thats not backstabbing , thats murdering congress & democracy 😉

You've just had to open a thread on ur precious forum to give it a vote and all of this wouldn't be happening.
It probably would've passed anyways , so next time be smart run it through congress to avoid this circus😉

I don't mind the bug in ur avatar , it also resembles that leprechaun thug 😉

I'm just a cartoonist don't shoot me for it ..... if i would be russian RL and targetted putin for real , how long do you think i would be a free man ......i think not that long.....coz he doesn't really like people that oppose him & his ideas... 🙂

LOL, GARMR is getting a bit worked up.

Chill brother I&W is the king of personal attacks my friend.

I do believe I stay quite polite most of the times, unless the attacks on my person don't stop, then I hit back.

I agree you are not a leader when it comes to personal attacks.

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"Chill brother I&W is the king of personal attacks my friend."

Funny seeing you where the one constantly attacking me last term after your impeachment, even so that even reasonable people stopped giving you the benefit of the doubt.

I think De La Rey is the one who should chill out shouting shame on you and bashing the government etc. This is the responsibility I am talking about. You have no argument and not case. You do not contribute in a civil manner like Spir Tus, AndreasIsaksson,Walhallah and others. While I do not agree with them, they are trying to have a real debate. You madam, is not part of the solution. You are the cause of many problems as you are not debating the issue. You are just throwing mud and insulting people. Please stop your butthurt vendetta against some members of the community and you should get over your impeachment a few weeks ago. Have the maturity to tolerate and coexist in a civil manner. If you have nothing civil and constructive to say, don't say anything at all.

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Ah the leaders have arrived.