German Position on Peace Proposal - S
Bundeskanzleramt
Dear Germans, and the rest of the eWorld,
We have been in contact with the Swedish and Polish presidents in an attempt to resolve the situation peacefully.
This is what they offer us:
Sweden and Poland are willing to give us most of our regions back in time. They are however not willing to hand over Schleswig Holstein and Brandenburg. (Two regions native to Germany with high grain).
We have not accepted their offer and I want to explain to everyone why we can’t:
Administrations in Germany in the past have been focused on the short term goals of the German nation. This has lead Germany to have issues of “trust”, “honesty” and obtain a bad reputation.
Both Starkad and I want to break that cycle and stay true to what he and I have promised, namely to be straight, and true!
Germany could never be able to live with a peace that dictates that we hand over two of our native regions without receiving proper compensation for it. Even if I now accepted such an offer, in the long run, the next German President or the one after that, would want those regions back! And there is a pretty good chance that this whole spiral of "broken words" and "mistrust" resulting in a war would start all over again".
That is not what I want and that is not a good resolution of the conflict! Germany may have lost its regions now but the war is not over! It has been going on for as long as this game exists, and unless we can resolve this situation to the liking of all nations involved, it will remain that way!
Germany has more than 55 million internet users, Sweden has 8 million. In the long run it should be in Sweden’s best interest to come to a final solution as quickly as possible, because it is not a question of if we shall receive our baby boom but rather when, as we are working eagerly on getting the game known and are already experiencing an increase in new German Players.
As a sign of their sincere intentions, Sweden has promised to release the Saarland, no conditions attached. We appreciate this gesture, as the Germans currently have been deprived of all their regions.
That’s the news from the diplomatic front
President Gobba
German Forum, the platform for your information:
http://egermany.itg-em.de/viewforum.php?f=18&sid=a9ebd0660cfaf0f9c3eb009fcef11c8b
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Comments
We won the war (this war). We = Sweden and Poland.
Germany have 3 high grain regions, we only want one each.
Germany din't win...WE GIVE YOU OFFERS, you should accept our offer instead of talking about give Germany back, all regions. Do you really think we would give back all regions?
Stop pretend that Germany won the war, you didn't.
Someone missed out that far from all internet users isn't at eRepublik
Sure, Germany got 55 million internet users, and Sweden only got 8 millions, but have you counted the Polish? It seems that you have forgotten our allies in this cause.
"We won the war"
The war ain't over until BOTH sides say so.
"In the long run it should be in Sweden’s best interest to come to a final solution as quickly as possible"
What's with you germans and final solutions?
@ Gurkvatten: Hahahahaha!
yep!
"Germany din't win...WE GIVE YOU OFFERS, you should accept our offer instead of talking about give Germany back, all regions. Do you really think we would give back all regions?"
You have no right to our homeland and you took by force what you don't want to trade for. I'd rather try to liberate our regions over and over again than agree to your demands.
"Stop pretend that Germany won the war, you didn't."
Not yet.
"The war ain't over until BOTH sides say so."
I believe when one side is totally wiped off the face of the map. The other side can be seen as victorious.
Well, too bad LRI, we are not gone yet. You might have occupied our regions, but the essence of Germany, it's PEOPLE, that you can never destroy. WYou might wish as much as you can to be rid of us, but we will never be gone.
You've been speaking about your baby boom for months but will it really happen? I suggest Germany to accept the Swedish/Polish-offer to regain their relations with some of their former strong allies.
You're not in the best "situation" and belive me, it will not be better if you don't negotiate with us.
Red Hank, Swedish MoFA
"I suggest Germany to accept the Swedish/Polish-offer to regain their relations with some of their former strong allies."
We are not the ones that need to do the repairing. We didnt break anything.
Acting like you are a stronger and more populous nation when it's only true in RL and not here is kinda silly.
Germany sticking to its "Me me me me me me!" policy that has served them so well in the past.
"You've been speaking about your baby boom for months but will it really happen? I suggest Germany to accept the Swedish/Polish-offer to regain their relations with some of their former strong allies."
We have obvisouly not been allies since you planted a spy into our midst, you have planned this since January, so allies, no we have never been it.
"We are not the ones that need to do the repairing. We didnt break anything."
No, but you got broken lol 🙂
Sweden never trusted us and Poland is ruled by children with historical complexes. So we are no allies and I support to not agree to a peace proposal!
We won the war, the winners never pays? Whi cant we just share the high grain?
Because admins doesn't realize that sweden is one of the largest iron producers in the world and should have a high iron region, just like finland should have a high wood region, instead they give germany three high grain regions and leaves us to squabble over them.
"Germany sticking to its "Me me me me me me!" policy"
Troll.
VonPuff we offered Sweden a share but they decided to attack 🙁
I am a troll, but that doesn't change the fact that germany has commited the same mistakes over and over again since May of 2008, and act surprised and butthurt every time it backfires.
It is very entertaining.
german diplomacy skills fails again. Just do what you did after WWII. you lost, accept our offer, even though you don't like it.
and why do you all have problems with a Germany having all its origin regions?
@DKN: Sweden wants a high grain region?
DKN: because we want them.
enter DKN, the original creator of the "Me me me me me me!" policy
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memememe wants the country back 😛
Countries change... If you read history you can see that countries have changed all the time, Elsass-Lothringen was once considered German territory now it's French territory. Tibet was once free, now it's a part of Chine.
Schleswig-Holstein, Lower Saxony, Meckleburg and NortRhine-Westphalia was once German territory, now it's a part of Sweden.
I've played for a few months now, but I haven't really been so active other than my two clicks/day. Can someone please tell me what advantages more regions gives, why 3 high grains is better than 1, and thus also explaining why Germany is opposed to share a high region with Sweden?
Hacha Masla: The reason we won't "share" a high region since it is German territory. Sweden wouldn't give up Stockholm or any other of their territory, but we are to do it?
We could have worked out a good deal with exporting grain to Sweden and spared Sweden the production cost for it. But instead it is so steadfast that it thinks it can't survive without it.
Hacha Masla: Germany sticks to their ancient idea of having having a babyboom and lots of regions for these babies to live in. We can call it "living space".
MortenLond "Sweden wouldn't give up Stockholm or any other of their territory, but we are to do it?"
Yes, we won the war, we decide. Simple.
Until the germs have fully understood that they lost the war, and accepted that fact that they are in no position to demand anything, until that day I see no reason to help them in any way. Let them steam in Saarland for a year or two.
When we will make a treaty with Sweden an Poland now, they will atack us in two or three month again to hold us down. I think we should only wait for the german version of the game. The most germans have internet flaterate and many of them like browsergames. I think we will take enough for Sweden and Poland.
So, it seems like the article is advocating "a final solution" to the Sweden/Poland problem.
I really thought a German would know how to not sound like a Nazi 🙂
"The reason we won't "share" a high region since it is German territory. Sweden wouldn't give up Stockholm or any other of their territory, but we are to do it?"
Hmmm... Since Sweden was promised S-H by Germany earlier I'd say that it isn't even Germany's territory by right anymore.
And on a sidenote, please take Stockholm, the entire place smells like shit anyway (Swedens backside you know).
S-H belongs to Sweden. Germany have no right to it.
As some people said earlier:
The war is not over yet...it has been just started...
😃