CP Rigging Referendums
Day 1,952, 06:57
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by Sean MacDiarmata
Hello Citizens of eIreland,
I am writing to you today to ask how we allowed a President to run a rigged referendum and why nobody (especially congress members) seems to be asking questions about it .
For some reason an nonexistent alliance was purposefully added to the ballot by the president (or at least encouraged by the president). CUA was the choice added to the ballot when it was not even an alliance, even the British MoFA a few days ago stated that it didn’t exist and im sure others from Columbia, Uruguay and Argentina will confirm that it doesn't and possibly may never exist as an alliance.
Below is an exert said by the British MoFA here
"This all started with the recent decision to start a referendum in Ireland on which the people decided which alliance to join - opting for a cluster of countries in South America which isn't an alliance thus far."
People within the dail have questioned the legality of the referendum for one reason or another,
Sir Adriano says "We just held an election on who to join, and you are suggesting we through that out the window"
Yes we were told we were voting first on what alliance we wanted to join as MUFC stated here “Second question will direct us in which of alliances eIrish people would prefer to be.” but also he stated that he was grouping up different choices like CoT with TWO etc.
Now the first issue here is the fact that under the last constitution we had you aren’t allowed to add options on the ballot which aren’t in existence when the voting is taking place...its just common sense.
The second is that if you are holding a referendum, everyone option is separated. You aren’t allowed to merge options so that it favours your outcome.
So what does the President say when he realized that the election shouldn't be counted?
Now I have seen a number of people saying, this was a vote to decide our FA directions for the term. What kind of government needs to hold elections to decide where to send their MoFA’s?
Another question is, why was two of the judges on who’s votes to count openly for CUA and against CoT and TWO...so much so that they never mentioned once on any update that Ireland was offered a trial membership of CoT along with the US?
Now a few days after this rigged election the CP has got his way, he swayed the voting due to shockingly biased information which is meant to be unbiased....he has now plasted his new update with “IRELAND JOINS THE BROTHERHOOD”
“ I'm pleased to announce that today is a great day for our eCountry, we’re joining the new Brotherhood,”
Now I don’t know about anyone else, tbh I know about congress. All who haved stayed quite on this are selling our nation out, we are joining a South American group...nothing more.
With this cheated referendum our CP has put us again in the line of fire with our neighbours in the UK who we have been getting on with for a good few months, sure our CP hasn’t even been talking with congress let alone our neighbours.
I also want to request a copy of the CUA charter, which if its an alliance like we are told it will have one.
What’s done is done, ah a referendum on what a country should do alliance wide isn't important so lets not discuss it. Mistakes here made, shocking mistakes in this referendum but sure we only voted to join an alliance that doesn't exist its no biggy.
But I forgot this is the President who constantly told congress in January that he made the decision for us to join Asgard, once he decides what is the best choice in his mind, Congress or the peoples opinions don't matter.
UPDATE
Having read the charter it clearly states that CUA isn't an alliance that its a "Block of Mutual Defense and cooperative", it doesn't say a single time on the charter that its an alliance. It was also wrote by MUFC and isn't signed a single time by anyone, now don't you think if this was a legit charter it would have been made by a CP from one of the three nations who started this block?
Thanks for reading,
Marcus Suridius
Soldier of Ireland
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See what happens without ILP !
yeah Sawc doesn't rob our bank, im all for bringing back Mike but screw the rest of you, sure you all voted in this tool and he was the same in December with Asgard and none of ILP said anything. I remember because I openly said WHS why are you keeping quite when you know he is doing this shit.
I say we impeach this cockroach finally.
We would but people think he is doing a good job even though he hasn't talked in our congress thread in nearly a week. Cost us god knows how much money over this war with the UK, quite possibly ruined any relationship we had with them.
Also forgot to send you this Mike - http://imgbin.org/images/12355.png
Yes that was something I was against supporting MUFC
Only because of his PTO
n00bs, you guys starting to make us look sophisticated...
Watch out Marcus, MUFC might PTO your party (again) with his fanboys because you disagree with him. http://tinyurl.com/cklqfub
Sure he basically said it already to Padraig when he didn't get his way on a NE vote
http://imgbin.org/images/12343.png
Ahahaha it even says on the CUA charter that its not an alliance...seriously lol'd
"The “Brotherhood” is conceived as a Block of Mutual Defense and cooperative among the signing eCountries."
😁 so why does MUFC say "After referendum we had a week ago where proEDEN option and alliance CUA gain majority of over 67% of votes"
😁 alliance CUA isn't an alliance and the charter itself said so.
So the way it is, we are still neutral just we have to sign MPP's with these three countries.
And he even wrote the charter himself and I was wondering why none of the main three countries wrote it or signed it.
http://imgbin.org/images/12344.png
I still think Ireland should join Asgard
We tried. Asgard told us to fuck off.
Try again. This time I will have a voice in there
Canada is in there now as well
ChewChewShoe and myself argued about this for about 2/3 days only to be basically told to f**k off.
Yeap, Ian has said he knows the vote should be held again but for different reasons.
Tbh what would happen if we did this?
We'd be impeached and people would be crying for 2 years, I fail to see the difference here. FFS the chap wrote the thing himself prob right before releasing his article.
*quietly takes a front row seat at the freakshow*
Ah everything is fine people, MUFC stated "Everyone knew we'd found the alliance cept you."
Everyone except me, funny that because he hasn't once mentioned anywhere that we are voting on founding an alliance.
I may be wrong but should that not have been a completely different vote, first having to decide on to join one or found one.
Then if we choose join one CUA isn't on that vote, ah but then MUFC doesn't get his way of putting us in his "Block of MPP's"
Ah but he also says "not to mention we'd have night advantage over any enemy in Europe"
Yeah we would, pity he doesn't factor in we know have a lot more enemies all over the globe so our battles will be over on the EU times before anyone in South America gets a chance to fight, not to mention people in the EU start attacks on EU times not a time zone not a South American one. So im not sure how night battles will help since any attack we do will be on our timezone not someone elses...simple battle planning.
MUFC cant into battle planning.
You can always go to Circle of Traitors to get sold to UK by Lulgaria, just like Russia. Btw where is that attack on China, the higher goal that was an excuse to betray Russia? But no worries, Loland will now help Lulgaria in their holy never ending war against Turks.
Maybe if ur fellow country men stopped fucking up our country and fucked off
They are your problem, you welcomed them there
and they certainly did sc**w Ireland up by siding with Circle of Traitors and Lulgarians
lolkk. MUFC is one of the biggest retards in this game
Bulgaria and Chile both got screwed by EDEN. They don't seem like traitors to me. EDEN picked Turkey and Argentina. They didn't have another option.
Who are the traitors?
You must have some alternative game on your browser... If Chile got screwed by anyone, it was by Terra.
Bulgaria was blackmailing EDEN for 6 months while arranging their MPPs with ONE. Then they simply switched sides, betraying all their "friends" and allies.
The one country that stood by Lulgaria the entire time was Russia - and look what they got in return. Backstabbed at first occasion, traded for Lolish damage.
So saying that Lulgaria got screwed by anyone other then themselves is absurd.
I guess I am playing a different game. I have no idea what you are talking about..... OH I get it. You change the names of contries to start with a L. very clever Lomper.
Im not commenting on the Bulgaria issue but Romper is correct about Chile, EDEN had nothing to do with any bad feelings there.
Only countries that keep making fools of themselves, like Loland and Lulgaria.
Thanks - I will quite down now. Sorry. My lack of knowledge has been exposed.
Give up Romper, just ignore the retards.
MUFC - again with the name calling. You lose more respect from me every day. BUT you don't seem to care. I was supportive of you when you were elected. You have really turned into a Troll (but maybe that is your goal)
MUFC you are the retard, you turn friendly nations against us, cheat on a referendum and for what?
To have people saying ah MUFC got us in the MPP group, you are a tool man and this will be a huge downfall for Ireland...pity you haven't the brains to realize it.
If you had the brains you wouldn't be saying "not to mention we'd have night advantage over any enemy in Europe"
😁 you would realize that our battles are started in our prime time because we are an EU country, we wont be starting them at times that suit South American nations and if we did...id think CoT/TWO have more firepower down there than we do. Ah but nope, you just say random shit thinking people will believe it.
Clearly you have failed to see the entire point of this article.
This article is not intended to argue in favour of any alliance, "block of MPPs" or whatever you want to call it at all.
This article is intended to expose MUFC for the power hungry, manipulating, dishonest, disrespectful, pathetic leader he is.
This has nothing to do with CoT, TWO, CUA, EDEN etc, this is between MUFC and the people of Ireland.
"Whenever any form of government becomes destructive to the ends of life, liberty, or the pursuit of happiness, it is the duty of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government. " - Thomas Jefferson.
SHAME on you for using an American quote.
We welcomed them when we needed them.. :'(
And we were annoyed just a wee few months after lol
I thought you quit?
Now I see why the congress thread is quiet, folks bringing it to the public since the congress seems to not have a problem with it. My understanding and reading on the referendum is that the eIrish public was saying to move in the direction that we have. You can call it a Brotherhood or an Alliance, but I'd suggest it's the same thing, and that does seem to be what folks wanted. There will always be differences of opinion, but I can't see how the public has been done wrong, just some people who do not want to be part of it and don't like the CP or his actions.
Paddy - Here is the problem that I see.
1. 61 votes were counted. That is hardly a large % of the vote. http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-cp-referendum-results-and-espain-2230387/1/20
2. MUFC put on the votes and decided who to count. He didn't count new players or longtime players with new Irish cit.
2a. The majority of votes came from ERIE Aonair. MUFU's party got out the vote and I am sure posted a lot in the party feed. There was not an effort with any other party. When over half the votes come from one party, it is not
2b. El Tarlo http://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/2080281 vote counted and he is banned for multi accounts. I am sure there are others.
3. MUFC was posting how great CUA was before and durring the vote.
4. CoT and TWO are not the same. If the question was "pick your favorite allience" results would have been different.
There was very little advertisement of who to vote for if any within EA, on top of the EA has always been in support of people sharing their own opinion and we do not tell our members what to vote because that luxury is their's and their's only.
I would have thought that if you put CoT and TWO together it would increase the votes for those two alliances because it would have the benefit of having the votes for both alliances.
61 votes were counted, yes that is a poor turn out however we cannot force people to vote and if they choose not to vote than we have no way of confirming there beliefs, if you can think of a way to get more people to vote I'm sure everybody would be glad to hear it.
The fact that most voters were EA says a lot about EA and it's activity, we are not to blame if we are the ones who can be bothered to help shape eIreland's future.
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I thought eIreland was a democracy... Or so it calls itself.
As far as I remmember, the concept of "opposition" and of multiple thought is supposed to be defended in democracy as it ensure debates and better positionning.
Now, all I see, is a voiced opposition that is only being silenced and dissmised by the governement. The CP went as far as threatening them of PTO.
I am not personally positionned on the matter of CUA, but I am convinced that the current governement attitude toward opposition is more looking like a single-party state.
My only opinion on CUA might be that it makes me realise my spannish classes weren't enough and I don't understand anything they say on their official channels 😉
Sure he hasn't spoken or responded to questions on the Dail thread in nearly a week...last thing he said was threatening my party.
If he wont respond there to our questions then im asking in public to try to get answers.
Paddy to say its because of a dislike of a CP or his actions as a need to write this article is pure nonsense.
I wrote this because he knows the referendum wasn't held fairly for so many reasons but because he got his way, he refuses (even after admitting it was done wrong) to redo it. Im not sure if you were here for the EDEN referendum but it was held fairly, without bias and if there was anyone mistakes in the running or voting it would (and was said clearly) be redone.
He lied about the basis for the election, saying first it was a way to decide on how to direct our MoFA's (which if you know how to do your job you direct the to look at every opportunity not just your own choice), then stating it was to decide on an alliance to join. Now he is stating it was a referendum to decide on creating an alliance...im not sure if you ever voted on a RL Referendum (I have on 3 in Ireland) but you don't have multiple different reasons for the vote, you have an unbiased approach (which everyone can see we didn't), you have unbiased people counting the votes (which there wasn't) and your choices and clear to see...you don't go merging different choices so it suits your choice.
What I see is that no matter who holds what, it's never accepted. Only way I can see to keep everyone happy is just stay neutral and never have anything proposed at all. But, then again, that's gonna make people mad also.
This isn't pointed at you personally, but at what seems to be a professional whining class within eIreland.
If you hold a fair election nobody will complain, they may not like the result but they cant say anything because it was held fairly.
But when you have the CP constantly saying he wants us in CUA, the MoFA saying the same thing. They never post anything positive about the other alliances, they group answers so people have to choose CUA if they don't like the CoT/TWO side.
I don't know how in the hell you think this was a fair election, even this rerun...he never told congress he was doing it and has only told the public on the day.
How are two clickers meant to find out about it?
He didn't want to do the rerun and thats why he gave no notice whats so ever about this.
Oh look, another paid for bought article by the usual suspects. Ireland doesn't want to join CoT, we've had a referendum on that, it was completely rejected. Ireland might have joined Asgard, there was a mandate pushed by the current CP, but this was rejected by Sweden on the basis of some 'previous'.
So we need to join an alliance. What I would like to hear from the usual suspects is what alliance they think we should join, and why? Try to be positive for a change, instead of this quite frankly, boring continuous whining.
If I didn't turned ignore mode on whining articles I'd say same thing 😁