Can the Sheep and the Socialists Keep Their Promise?
Israel Stevens
Can the Socialists and Sheep deliver on their promises?
With the American Military Party falling out of the Top 5, the Black Sheep have re-entered Congress. This has been the moment that the BSP and SFP have been waiting for, as they assume that it will give them the votes to lower the work tax.
Even going so far as to promise a time frame.
But the question is, do they actually have the votes they think they do?
With the October 25th elections, the United States had 71 regions, a staggering amount and more than we have ever had before. This meant that the rosters of candidates were pushed to their limits, with candidates far down the ballot actually getting in. This could be the difference in the forthcoming Work Tax vote, as these players will be thrust into a volatile and highly politicized vote.
The Federalists returned to the top of the Congressional pecking order, with 24.03% of the vote. This percentage got them 17 Congressmen. Of those 17, 16 have signed in, acquiring Congressional Access in the process. The 1 outsider, does not appear to have a eUS Forums account, effectively limiting the Federalist Caucus at 16 members.
The United States Workers Party slipped a bit in the vote, earning 23.54% and 15 Congressmen. Some of that slip can likely be attributed to the small amount of candidates the USWP had on their ballot. With the percentage they pulled, they should have also received 17 Congressmen, but only had 15 people on the ballot. This resulted in 3 relative unknowns getting into Congress. Of those 3, 1 has acquired access to Congress, 1 has not accessed their eUS Forums account in a year and 1 does not appear to have a forum account. The small number of candidates effectively cost the USWP 4 seats. They have 13 signed-in members of Congress.
The Black Sheep Party returned to Congress and tallied 19.97% of the vote, earning 14 seats in Congress. Of those 14, 1 did not sign in. It does not appear that they have a eUS forums account either. This costs BSP 1 seat, putting them effectively at 13 spots.
The Socialist Freedom Party fell far, without the votes from BSP. They secured 18.02% of the vote and captured 13 seats. This is the first time that SFP has stood alone in Congress, and it gives a better representation of their voting power. Of those 13 seats, 1 went to the Old F*** party, and 1 is the always enigmatic rainy sunday, who was AMP earlier in the year, a 6th party member last month, and is currently in the Federalist party. While none of those things cost the SFP votes, it does mean that they can’t count on 13 votes when it comes to the work tax vote. However, I do not speak for rainy, so we’ll consider SFP at 13 votes.
We the People rounded out the Top 5, winning 14.45% of the vote, and 10 seats in the process. 9 of 10 have signed in. The one outsider does in fact have a eUS Forums account, but has not yet made a single post. This puts WTP at 9 votes.
It matters how many Congressmen are able to vote on the forums, because the vote will be held there. Normally, the vote would be held in game, but with the dictator in place, the vote will have to be held on the forums, and the dictator will vote according to Congress’ wishes.
Feds - 16 votes
USWP - 13 votes
BSP - 13 votes
SFP - 13 votes
WTP - 9 votes
How the parties vote
BSP and SFP will vote as a block, with no independent thinking (save rainy). That will put 26 votes in favor of lowering the work tax.
USWP and the Federalists will almost certainly vote as a block against lowering the work tax. However, their voting as a block is much less certain than BSP/SFP, as Feds and USWP don’t exert as tight control, nor have as much of a hive mind mentality that the other two do. This will put roughly 29 votes against lowering the work tax.
At this point, we turn our attention to WTP. The anti-tax crowd is going to need this party to break heavily in their favor, in order to fulfill their promise. Looking at their roster, I think it’s going to be close. WTP has some elements of populism, though they are usually evenly matched with elites. But even a 50/50 split will be enough to hold the work tax at 15%. I think it will go 5-4.
Final Vote - 34-30 against lowering the tax.
Other Factors
The massive number of Congressmen this term makes this a much more interesting vote. There are currently 5 members of Congress that cannot vote, and another 2 that should be there but are not due to USWP’s shallow roster. There are people in Congress that are not experienced with our political system, and could potentially have a massive impact on the vote. Either by being easily swayed, bribed, threatened, or simply not showing up.
Those 5 members not having access is huge. With the vote as tight as it is already, it will be interesting to see if those Congressmen are able to make it to Meta-Congress.
The slight freedom that the Federalists and USWP allow their candidates could also swing the vote. Even just a few defections, will turn the vote against what those parties want. On the other hand, do not expect to see a single BSP or SFP vote to keep the tax where it is. There will be no dissenting from them.
I think it will be a very tight vote. Expect many people to edit their vote, as time progresses. Particularly those that vote Abstain, or those that vote against the majority of their party.
Comments
Nice work.
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Excellent article. Let's see where this plays out.
"SFP will vote as a block, with no independent thinking "
lolwat? You really have no idea how SFP works do you 🙂
Care to wager on it?
I'll bet SFP votes together, just like they did on the last WT.
http://eusaforums.com/forum/index.php/topic,36772.30.html
They may vote as block. I have no idea. But if you visit the SFP Forum I can assure you that you'll find a great deal of independent thinking, including on the tax question.
"This has been the moment that the BSP and SFP have been waiting for, as they assume that it will give them the votes to lower the work tax."
Where has SFP made this assumption/promise?
http://eusaforums.com/forum/index.php/topic,37184.msg691676.html#msg691676
WookyJack = SFP member 😕= SFP
Again the assumption that one person's words stand for all of SFP. lol
In Israel Stevens' defense, a lot of us have called for a lower work tax.
My problem is with his assertion that SFP is saying that we have the votes for it to happen, not that we WANT to have the votes for it to happen.
This was plain and simply an excellent article.
Another thing to consider would be that every congressional vote on the forum has a name attached to it, as opposed to in game where the votes are anonymous and you can't tell who voted yes or no. Imo, that can cause people to just follow their party lines to avoid getting ostracized.
That is exactly why the DD is harmful to America. Currently we are ruled by a 'tyranny of the majority', controlled by the 'Iron Fist' of the FED/USWP PPs who control the Candidates on their tickets and hence their bloc of voters; all of who must vote as told or never see Congress again.
>tyranny of the majority
Gee, that sounds like Democracy.
Tyranny of the Majority is basically the definition of democracy as we know it, especially in this game where there is no court to enforce the philosophy of "majority rule, minority right" as there is in real life.
Also, please learn how the Feds and USWP function.
Definition of pure Democracy is mob rule. 50% + 1 wins.
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I do not control the congresspeople on my ticket. We have an in-game thread where all issues are brought to their attention and discussion is had, but I do not force any Federalists to vote against their own wishes.
I have never seen any better writing come out of IS... or a donkey. 😛
Nice analyses!
Good luck to my friends in USA!
I'm really glad to see this article and this conversation in the media.
I always enjoy your writing anyway.
It won't happen. They are too butt hurt to win anything and if they do win then the next month when we get rolled an entire party's view will change. The eUSA they want doesn't exist in this game. Also I'm still interested in what SFP's name is meant to say. Freedom from Socialism or Freedom through Socialism?
'The eUSA they want doesn't exist in this game.'
Correct, but the SFP is working hard to create it....
' Also I'm still interested in what SFP's name is meant to say. Freedom from Socialism or Freedom through Socialism?'
Exactly what it says, 'Socialist Freedom', how you interrupt that is up to each individual; after all we are a Democratic Party.
It doesn't exist because that version of eUSA gets rolled easily every month and forces its citizens to quit or leave the country. Your ideals make eUSA weak and you are all too smug with all that populism up your bums to realize it.
So cowering behind the 10 day buffer the DD gives the 'meta government' to get its 's**t' together is showing strength? Having a Foreign Policy of Appeasement is showing strength?
To me it is like hiding behind mommy's skirt....
This one was a good read!
I actually enjoyed this read. Can't agree with everything that was said, but props for a well written article. Here's to working together for the month.
Could have done with a little more research into how the SFP operates 😛
Just want to clear up something you didn't understand. In BSP we grant our members FULL AUTONOMY. We are simply a collection of persons that agree to begin with, we would never demand that any of our members vote any way.
LOL.
SFP has no party line, unlilke many other parties.
We are also in no coalition and have made no promises to lower taxes. In fact, the HSA that was supported by most of SFP would, in fact, either raise taxes or keep them as they are for a time.
But believe what you will, who am I to educate you?
MAX TAXES!!!
Voted AND endorsed!
I've never cared for IS, don't like his 'holier than thou' smug little 'tude. When he did speak 'at' me (long time ago FYI) it was in a condescending manner and I didn't like it. I've been gone awhile and am not familiar with what's been going on, who's who, etc.
I will say that, even though I have a varying opinion about WT, this is an extremely well written article. Though somewhat slanted with the "BSP and SFP will vote as a block, with no independent thinking (save rainy)." remark it yet has a well explained argument and the point is taken.
Good job IS.
I look really handsome 🙂
FIST
I enjoy your articles but your portrayal of the SFP as a monolithic bloc of voters with one mind is so far off base it isn't even in the same zip code as reality.
This is a good article, it is correct.
MAX TAXES !
So much hate, so early in the term. Say, IS how are you going to vote on the tax rate? Oh yeah...sorry about that.
There is no tight control within our party. Most of us took exception to collecting high taxes and doing nothing with them. Since we are now spending that tax money on regular AA distributions, CO's and expanded citizen services i.e. actually doing something with the money, I have a lot less of an issue with taxes. We had fallen into a miserly rut. No matter how much we had, it was never enough.
These are good analyses
CP gets a vote on this also.
What's this; reverse psychology?
I voted and endorsed an Israel Stevens article. Disgusting.
Great article!
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I do have to laugh Arrden makes a comment not a promise and you make an article.
All I or our party could ever promise if we did promise something is that we would fight hard to TRY and get taxes lowered as we always have.