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[The Guild] Joint Statement on Recent Affairs

Hari ke 1,892, 06:53 oleh Stilpo



Greetings eIreland,

The following is a joint statement by the leadership of the Independent Labour Party, Saoirse, the Irish Freedom Party, Eire Aonair, the Irish Union Party and Independent Voices regarding the conflict surrounding the recent PTO of The Patriots Party.





Statement:

(1a) We officially recognize that the recent election of Mr. Jack X to the presidency of The Patriots party was a deliberate and organized political take-over or “PTO” by Mr. Jack X and certain members of Saoirse. (1b) We hereby condemn this action and do not recognize the leadership of Mr. Jack X to be legitimate. (1c) However, we do understand that the PTO was motivated by an internal conflict between Irish factions, and thus far have no reason to believe that it was organized by foreign nationalist forces seeking to expand external influence in Ireland. (1d) In addition, we recognize that the PTO was a product of a sub-faction of individuals within the current party and understand that it was not officially organized or condoned by the entire party or its current leadership. (1e) Finally, we make an important distinction between the action itself, which we condemn to be unethical and undemocratic, and the underlying motivations behind the actions, which we recognize to be based on legitimate grievances that still need resolving (see section 5).

(2a) We recommend that Mr. Jack X resign as president of The Patriots and return control of the party to its original members. (2b) If Mr. Jack X remains president of The Patriots, we demand and require that The Patriots remain strictly neutral in the upcoming CP elections as a show of good faith to the Irish people. Failure to do so will give credence to arguments that the PTO was motivated by reasons other than personal feuds and that it poses a genuine and significant national security threat to Ireland.

(3a) In addition to condemning the recent PTO of The Patriots, we also recognize and condemn the attempted PTO of Eire Aonair by certain members of The Patriots. Although this PTO attempt did not succeed, we still view it as an affront to democracy in Ireland and recognize it as very concerning to members of all other parties. (3b) However, we also recognize that it was a product of a sub-faction of individuals within the current party and understand that it was not officially organized or condoned by the entire party or its leadership.

(4a) We demand an end to the undemocratic and unethical practice of PTO in Ireland in general, and hereby pledge our mutual support and party resources to actively counter any PTO attempt of any active party in the future.

(5a) We recognize that in the weeks leading up to the aforementioned political incident(s), certain prominent members of The Patriots - foremost among them Mr. Padraig Pearse - engaged in malicious trolling against certain eIrish citizens of eCroatian origin, and that this trolling was both a primary reason for The Psych0 leaving Ireland and a major motivation behind the PTO of The Patriots by Jack X and other aggrieved individuals. (5b) We further recognize that this trolling included race-based insults and other content that was deliberately intended to inflame passions and stir up xenophobic sentiment against croatians in within Ireland. (5c) We condemn such race-based trolling and the promotion of xenophobia in Ireland, and demand that it immediately cease.

(6a) We also recognize, however, that significant personal insults were exchanged between both sides at various points in this conflict and that no side was truly innocent in this affair. (6b ) We consider both forms of trolling/flaming to be unproductive and unnecessarily divisive in our community, and strongly recommend their immediate secession (or at the very least a significant reduction in use) throughout all factions in Ireland. (6c) To facilitate this change, all future incidents involving obvious trolling & flaming by party leaders toward out-party citizens or groups will be noted and and logged by the Guild for future reference.





Thank you for reading.

Special Note: This statement was a product of enormous time, effort and compromise from all party leaders who participated. A special thanks also goes to Brian Boru, who helped moderate and guide the negotiations.

Others who wish to officially sign this statement may do so below in the comments section.



 

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MrConway
MrConway Hari ke 1,892, 08:11

"(5c) We condemn such race-based trolling and the promotion of xenophobia in Ireland, and demand that it immediately cease."

Check out Saoirse's congress platform, their at it again.

MR. HANK SCORPIO
MR. HANK SCORPIO Hari ke 1,892, 08:16

Thanks guys, please aware me on my party's involvment in the EA PTO it's the first Im hearing on it.

MR. PADRAIG PEARSE
MR. PADRAIG PEARSE Hari ke 1,892, 08:22

On the EA pto, On behalf on the Patriots we apoligise, we where informed that a pto was happening in the Party so thought we were acting as an ato. Apoligies

MR. HANK SCORPIO
MR. HANK SCORPIO Hari ke 1,892, 09:43

Oh that.
Just to clarify, I saw a shout by Bristel about an EA PTO before the last party elections.
I PM'd Ian offering assistance and he said he'd contact me if he needed us.
I made a shout in THE PATRIOTS shoutbox about this saying I supported an EA ATO if Ian needed us.
I think a few of of the lads took it that we were officially helping when we weren't as Ian never asked for help.
I was unaware of anyone actually getting involved in an ATO effort.
Apologies for that inconvience I think that was my fault.

Viktor Kurgan
Viktor Kurgan Hari ke 1,892, 12:26

Spiritual wing of Eaire Aonair finds Goa'uld guild report as a total crap.

We who see thing beyond corporeal realm feel obligated to inform mortals that what happened with kunts was not a PTO but Exorcism of demonic entities wich we found was successful.

Kunt has been purified for a time being.....

Unfortunately..as you know expeled demons always tries to find a new "home" to hount and they chose EA.
With the power of The Word i stopped that attack.

But now we hear driven demons are possessing IUP.....i will pray for them...

Viktor Kurgan
Viktor Kurgan Hari ke 1,892, 13:19

Hank if EA will ever need ATO help be sure it will not ask kunts for help...unless current PP is retarded moron....

Too many members in kunts associated with past PTOs and scammings...

EA being connected to kunts would be a great insult for what EA stand for...

Viktor Kurgan
Viktor Kurgan Hari ke 1,892, 14:22

the rest of report is cool in the eyes of the Heavens

Liam Tatlock
Liam Tatlock Hari ke 1,892, 15:01

Signed as Spokesman of ILP

Ian E CoIeman
Ian E CoIeman Hari ke 1,892, 15:43

Good article and supported.

The one thing I would point out is that I don't believe there was a pto on EA from the patriots. There was certainly some confusion as Hank said, but regardless the end result of the elections was unaffected.

Winston Hope Smith
Winston Hope Smith Hari ke 1,892, 16:07

Signed as ex PP of the ILP & all around good egg

Sean MacDiarmata
Sean MacDiarmata Hari ke 1,892, 16:35

"In addition to condemning the recent PTO of The Patriots, we also recognize and condemn the attempted PTO of Eire Aonair by certain members of The Patriots."

This is wrong, I said to Ian in a pm and he accepted that it was a mistake due to misunderstandings, we never tried to PTO them.

"I made a shout in THE PATRIOTS shoutbox about this saying I supported an EA ATO if Ian needed us.
I think a few of of the lads took it that we were officially helping when we weren't as Ian never asked for help."

^^ this, I said to Ian it was a misunderstanding and I said it loads of times on shouts and articles. I have a lot of respect for what EA do and have worked closely with Ian over the last month or two on the info centre so im sure he knows if anyone from my party planned to PTO EA I would 1) have nothing to do with it and 2) would say it to Ian directly about what was going to happen.
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Bar that thanks for releasing this, I know it wouldn't have been easy to do and I know both sides were as guilty as eachother leading up to the PTO.

Now if we can be given out party back this can be forgotten about and we can get back to trying to improve our party in a fair and honest way.

Viktor Kurgan
Viktor Kurgan Hari ke 1,892, 17:17

Marcus...i was party president then and you did not even bother to contact me about pto danger.
So you did pto EA.
If Ian and Bristel did whine to kunts its a great shame for EA considering filthy history of many kunt members.
And EA was affected...at least 2 votes came from outside.

Sean MacDiarmata
Sean MacDiarmata Hari ke 1,892, 17:22

We didn't PTO because none of us are PP, if its a PTO one of the lads would have to be running it and again I say it was a misunderstanding that I wish didn't happen.

The votes weren't from us because we directed everyone we could find to vote for Padraig to stop a PTO of our own party.

Viktor Kurgan
Viktor Kurgan Hari ke 1,892, 17:37

You shouted for votes for Bristel and again you did not contact PP of EA.
Mistake or not that makes you a PTOers.
Leo has been member of EA for months as i am aware so you had no excuse to call for a votes against him.
And Ian has no right to whine about pto only coz his pet bristel cant get elected.

Sean MacDiarmata
Sean MacDiarmata Hari ke 1,892, 18:49

"And Ian has no right to whine about pto only coz his pet bristel cant get elected"

Ian didn't say to vote for BA, I already said it was a mistake I wish we could take back. As Leo was wearing the same avy that the person PTO'ing us was I presumed he was aswell.

We didn't PTO EA, we done something we shouldn't have but its far from a PTO. It was an ATO gone pair shaped.

Stilpo
Stilpo Hari ke 1,892, 19:31

Also, goodbye for now everybody.

RL calls so I will be taking a break from this game for a few months starting tomorrow. Won't even be two-clicking. See you in the summer... maybe.

Hope you can all work out your differences.

Stilpo
Stilpo Hari ke 1,892, 19:36

PM me if you want op in #TheGuild

Viktor Kurgan
Viktor Kurgan Hari ke 1,892, 19:44

There is too much presumtion in this story.
Ian though, you though, everybody just though.
And yet it was enough to shout for votes for bristel wich ended up with at least 2 votes for bristel.
Why you didnt contact me then?
I was pp of EA in that time you clerly decided to bypass elected representative and that makes you a ptoers.
If Ian wants to run EA he can run for pp position.

Viktor Kurgan
Viktor Kurgan Hari ke 1,892, 19:56

Leo was leading 6:4 on elections before outside votes and itss not a secret ian is pushing bristel for pp for last two months.
Considering bristel cant win honestly it seems ian got desperate.
a founder of EA should know better and start to respect decisions of EA members.
If there is an active pto element in EA , its Bristel.

Sean MacDiarmata
Sean MacDiarmata Hari ke 1,893, 06:18

Take care Stilpo

Viktor ease of the ether

The Irish William Wallace
The Irish William Wallace Hari ke 1,893, 11:05

Signed as current PP of the Independent Labour Party
NO RACISM, NO XENOPHOBIA, VIVA SOCIAL JUSTICE!

AppleMan
AppleMan Hari ke 1,894, 23:08

Nice words...

 
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