Mata's Statement on GPN and how to continue
Day 2,676, 13:30
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by Mata
The time has come to let people know and make an official statement about myself, GPN and the elections.
This has been posted without GPN support, I also have left GPN, though not because of them.
I have joined GPN not so long ago, my plans were to make it active, revive it and return it to being a great party.
I had made plans and articles, though no real execution of my plans have been made, there are reasons that are even about the most asked thing since I have returned.
The last party president elections of GPN is the problem.
I first want to tell everyone that I do not support Steve_God, for a lot of reasons, which I will not share as there are things that I want GPN itself make any real statement of if they think it is needed, I do not see it as just to do so myself.
However I do support GPN, their plans were something I liked, their believes also, even most of the people at GPN I respect, they should know so already.
I still did leave GPN as I do not see it being able to get active when the party president is really inactive, it would need teamwork, teamwork I do not see possible anymore.
As for contacting Steve, yes I have done so, though not the past few days, as he told me he would be inactive anyway, so he may contact me if he wants when he is active again.
I trusted myself being able revive GPN, I however wouldnt say I have failed, as GPN did get a surge of attention, yet I failed by not seeing my plans might have been too good without an active PP, making it impossible to do anything important.
So everyone who has reacted anything about Steve_God and him being PP not favorable, you were 100% right, I cant deny it as it has been shown to be true.
However this doesnt mean I will not continue fighting the cause I see just.
Being political active is something I see as important, while GPN might not be the place I can do so, I still havent changed my opinion about fighting for eNetherlands and making everyone heard, whoever you might be.
At this moment I am gathering knowledge about what I should do next, there have been suggestion made to me already.
Though I believe eNetherlands is 1 country that should work together, bring everyone together and work at making eNetherlands a great country once again.
So, anyone who has ideas, comments, questions or just want to say anything, I request you to comment at this moment.
Whether it is about GPN, my activity, my looks on anything or some other subject, speak your mind.
I still believe working together makes great things, eNetherlands is a great country and we need to do anything to be a great country.
So share anything you want, as I am not done with being political active, I only need to think about the real continuation at this moment, something that will not fail by inactivity, something rather to show that my own activity is favorable.
I did not make a bigger statement or explanations as I might end up repeating myself over and over again, rather want people to ask what they want to know.
So as small sum up of what I sai
- I do not support Steve_God as Party president of GPN, I cant see eye to eye with him and he is inactive, this is why I have left GPN.
- I support GPN as party, their plans and believes are something that can be done great things with, yet with no active PP I wont be able to make anything happen.
- I had trust in being able to revive GPN, I would continued if PP would be active, now it ended up being a speaker without possibilities to do anything.
- I will still be political active, though how is currently unknown, I am thinking about what I will do next.
- I believe eNetherlands is a great country and could do many great things together.
- I would like to ask people to comment to this article, as I do not think a long statement would work at this moment, rather would people to ask anything they want to know.
This has been posted without GPN support, I also have left GPN, though not because of them.
I have joined GPN not so long ago, my plans were to make it active, revive it and return it to being a great party.
I had made plans and articles, though no real execution of my plans have been made, there are reasons that are even about the most asked thing since I have returned.
The last party president elections of GPN is the problem.
I first want to tell everyone that I do not support Steve_God, for a lot of reasons, which I will not share as there are things that I want GPN itself make any real statement of if they think it is needed, I do not see it as just to do so myself.
However I do support GPN, their plans were something I liked, their believes also, even most of the people at GPN I respect, they should know so already.
I still did leave GPN as I do not see it being able to get active when the party president is really inactive, it would need teamwork, teamwork I do not see possible anymore.
As for contacting Steve, yes I have done so, though not the past few days, as he told me he would be inactive anyway, so he may contact me if he wants when he is active again.
I trusted myself being able revive GPN, I however wouldnt say I have failed, as GPN did get a surge of attention, yet I failed by not seeing my plans might have been too good without an active PP, making it impossible to do anything important.
So everyone who has reacted anything about Steve_God and him being PP not favorable, you were 100% right, I cant deny it as it has been shown to be true.
However this doesnt mean I will not continue fighting the cause I see just.
Being political active is something I see as important, while GPN might not be the place I can do so, I still havent changed my opinion about fighting for eNetherlands and making everyone heard, whoever you might be.
At this moment I am gathering knowledge about what I should do next, there have been suggestion made to me already.
Though I believe eNetherlands is 1 country that should work together, bring everyone together and work at making eNetherlands a great country once again.
So, anyone who has ideas, comments, questions or just want to say anything, I request you to comment at this moment.
Whether it is about GPN, my activity, my looks on anything or some other subject, speak your mind.
I still believe working together makes great things, eNetherlands is a great country and we need to do anything to be a great country.
So share anything you want, as I am not done with being political active, I only need to think about the real continuation at this moment, something that will not fail by inactivity, something rather to show that my own activity is favorable.
I did not make a bigger statement or explanations as I might end up repeating myself over and over again, rather want people to ask what they want to know.
So as small sum up of what I sai
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- I do not support Steve_God as Party president of GPN, I cant see eye to eye with him and he is inactive, this is why I have left GPN.
- I support GPN as party, their plans and believes are something that can be done great things with, yet with no active PP I wont be able to make anything happen.
- I had trust in being able to revive GPN, I would continued if PP would be active, now it ended up being a speaker without possibilities to do anything.
- I will still be political active, though how is currently unknown, I am thinking about what I will do next.
- I believe eNetherlands is a great country and could do many great things together.
- I would like to ask people to comment to this article, as I do not think a long statement would work at this moment, rather would people to ask anything they want to know.
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nice gif message.
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Sounds like you should begin your own party.
I might, currently keeping it at that.
There are allready to many partys. If you cant fit in one of them your own party will probaply fail too...
True, though GPN is one I wouldn't count as one of them, but that is my opinion.
No disrespect to GPN, but an inactive party I do not count as a party anymore, as PP is inactive too like I said.
Though creation of party shouldn't be taken lightly either way, as it would need an unique vision, something that is not available at the other parties.
Like people I talked to also said, the 4 active parties voice a lot of opinions, but does not voice everyone.
Though any new party would need support, it might be hard with the small community at eNetherlands.
But like I will answer on anything that I wouldn't know for sure: "we will see"
Though I would still think one thing, which is eNetherlands might benefit on a new party, though also might not, who knows, it is something that people would need to try, but could be a waste of 40 gold, it is a great risk.
It's unfortunate that you were not elected party president because, in my opinion, you had made a good effort to help to bring the party back to life. :/
Yes, it's unfortunate, though it showed me that there are things happening that are needed to be taken care of.
I don't watch at party level, not at political level, but at country level.
Soon I will be able to say more about that, but I rather gather more knowledge before telling anything more.
SteveGod wasn't active when I was in GPN (2-2.5 years ago) and still isn't now. It looked like a no brainer, such a shame you didn't get elected. Good luck with your political endeavours.
You have a reply on your PM, 😉
I agree that an inactive PP is a bad thing. But that doesn't necessarily make a whole party worthless. After all, he's just one of the members... In congress, actually Steve has partipated in one of the votes: http://enetherlands.nl/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=13047&start=10#p181363
071leiden hasn't voted at all thus far this term.
I'd say that means most of the votes on GPN during the last congress elections ended up being wasted. And yes, that's indeed a bad thing. It should be a reason for voters to stop voting GPN. As long as the PP isn't active enough to reorder congress candidates based on amongst others their activity, a party is more or less dead with him at the head.
I do believe you could have become GPN's PP next month, after people would have had some more time to get to know you. Especially if you'd send them PMs the day before elections. Arguments like those above should be something a party's members can only agree with. Without you, GPN will be in even more trouble, because now noone is trying to get GPN more organised again.
Now that you're on your own again, maybe you should join one of the other 4 parties. I'm sure most of them would welcome you with open arms, now that you've proven to be very active. I'm sure that we in DemNL would.
And yes, if none of these parties are a match to your preferences, maybe you really should consider your own party. It won't be easy to make it grow, but if you can find people willing to join it, I'm sure you have the talent to make it a top-5 party.
First of all, I have chosen to let GPN die, as there is no other activity, maybe some button pushes, yet no real activity.
PMing doesn't help, it would give me 2 or 3 votes more, rest is a real question mark as even after the PMs I have send recently, only a certain part react, though there was only 1 possible active person left that I didn't message, I got 3 reactions, rather weird...
GPN is better to be kicked out of the top 5, whether people like this statement or not, there should rather fill an active party the fifth spot, as taking over GPN is a long and hard part to take, might take months and months, which I don't want to stay idle, though would make me if I stayed at GPN.
Both DemNL and Verenigd Nederland have been contacted and I am talking with them already, they know my feelings, it should be spread at DemNL soon as far as I know, at VN I do not know for sure.
Once again, statement about possible new party won't happen, though I would like to request you to PM me today, there is something I wanted to contact you about actually.
Hmm, if you had already made clear internally why you were running, and still the majority prefered Steve, I'd say you're completely right: GPN indeed is a lost cause.
I've received a PM from Spir Tus, asking me for my advice, and have already replied to him. So I guess it is being spread in DemNL.
I'll send him another message now, and I'll send you a PM as well.
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creating a new party is a possibility, but i'd suggest against it, we just got rid of all the small parties.
just take a look at all the parties in eNL we have currently, talk to some of the members, and join one of them, perhaps you won't be PP the first month(s) but in time you could become it.
altough i believe the PP is just the button-pusher of the party after the rest of the party decides about the direction it should go 😉
I will confirm that I am talking to the 2 other center parties already, do not worry about that.
GPN is inactive, not only by Steve, but by the rest not being active either or not wanting to be political active, meaning it is currently more a place holder the anything else, though has easy congress access, this shouldn't be something the other 4 parties would support, as I would think you also rather want real congress members then only idle button pushers?
Once again I will leave it at that, making no statement about any creation of a party. As it doesn't matter at this moment, eNetherlands needs to learn that GPN is no longer a real party, as it hasn't been, which current members have said to me themselves, as long as people don't see that, I do not care about any huge statement on anything as long as I am partyless, as discussions are still ongoing between me and the center parties.
Why would we need an active 5th party? Creating something new still won't do anything as we have seen in the cases of Hollands Glorie, Lijst Briepe and Dutch Independent. They all started with 1 person who wrote a few articles and nobody joined for months.
A new party with the support of the active members of GPN would have a headstart compared to a real one man party.
For reference: Mata got 4 votes during GPN's PP elections. Potentially that means he has a 4-man party already.
Also, GPN is collapsing. In my opinion it won't be a top-5 party for long. So it shouldn't be that hard to take their place. If ever there was a time to start a new party, I'd say this is it.
So I would say that your comparison does not really work. In addition, even as non-top-5 party he could have CMs by having his candidates join another party for the elections. I'm quite sure DemNL would be willing to accomodate him with this.
I'm not against it, I just mean it is difficult as I doubt the current numbers of GPN will magically dwindle any further. In the past we had parties outside of the top 5 (Both merged into current ReL) and I&W too was happy to offer them a place to run for congress.
Also, of that 4 votes it seems like there is only one active politician, so that does pose the same problems imo.
Yup, Garmr, you are correct on that.
Like I can only keep telling 1 thing over and over again, there are more people then GPN members, even more then only center members.
There will be something happening soon, yet if it is by me joining a party of making a party is a mystery not going to get answer here.
Not because of secrecy, but because I am not even 100% sure yet myself what I will do, simple as that.
Who says it would be a 1 player party, who says there isn't any actual plans already and even actual active support?
I do not believe in making a party without first seeking support and then making it, as you would just be cutting into your own fingers, as indeed that wouldn't work.
Like djirtsdew actually said correctly, I have contacted GPN, not all of them yet, but it will be done once I am not reacting on people at IRC, Skype, eRepublik. IRL and some other ways at the same time.
GPN is indeed collapsing, no one can deny it anymore, not even GPN, the members are nice people, I would be able to call them friends if I knew them better, but they would be people that I would be friends with.
Either way, a new party wouldn't be able to voice any of the opinions that already exist, which are almost anything, yet there are unique visions left that are not spoken at any party, that would be the strength of any new party.
I was not stating anything, merely pointing out possible difficulties.
Might have used my own words in a wrong way, sorry.
Of course it will be difficult to revive GPN. But there is a lot of history there. If I remember correctly when I was in the NL and in GPN I&W looked like it was nothing but a relic of the past struggling to keep in the top 5. Now look at them… nothing is impossible. Don't be so cynical Garmr 🙂
nothing is impossible true. but I&W still had some core active members, gpn seems to be lacking even those.
Not at the time really. I&W had a lot of active and prominent members come back to the NL which helped.
ReL is your best bet.
Just one word comes to my min😛 "why?".
well it's in the name right 😉
lekker rellen!
Well, I can only say this:
Rellen is niet mijn ding!
I am no revolution person, this is also why I have still not made any statement about what I will do, as there are things being talked over behind the scenes, even with GPN still, so if I would make a statement it would possibly do something I do not want, as I am not a believer of revolution.
If you enjoy the Dem NL / IW powerblock, then don't join ReL. Literally that simple.
Nope, I won't support I&W either, mostly because of not being able to see eye to eye on certain things some members say.