eIreland CP | UK War Explanation
Rusty D
Greetings eWorld,
After eIreland launched it's DoW against the UK, we had many many people ask us "Why?" and also we had many people complain. Well as hinted at my last CP article I thought I would answer a few of the questions raised by different people/groups.
Now please remember and note, these responses are mine and mine alone. They dont reflect eIreland and her citizens, but responses to the actions I took as CP in this recent short war.
This is something that still makes me laugh, I mean seriously, do you think I would send a country to war because of one medal??? I dont even hunt medals lol.
This one came about because an English Player named Sir Humphrey Appleby, came to me via PM asking about the war shortly after the DoW was proposed. I gave him some rubbish about how a Turk stole my SH medal and I am anti-Turkish. Granted to his credit he did reply to me if I was trolling him, but stupidly he believed me when I replied "Honestly no, I am not". So off goes this English gov member running to the Turks crying about how Ireland was going into NI because of them. Even funnier was one particular Turkish member believed him hahaha.
Now for the record, I go into a battle and I hit, if I loose a medal, so what, hell even some Irish have taken my medals, am I going to start a civil war because of it? No I am not. But I do find it funny not only an English government member believed this, but a Turk actually believed him as well.
Another thing that has been said was related to the offer of us having NI for Christmas, in return for a TW with Turkey.
Yes this was offered in some sort of sense. The offer of a TW with Turkey came up in convo, I replied that I would look at that offer, but upfront, I would like to have NI for Christmas as a gift for eIreland. This was accepted.
After looking and speaking to our producers, I had to turn down the offer of a TW, due to the large amount of Holding Companies in Turkish regions, after all I am here to serve the Irish and well, you dont cut the hand that feeds you.
This was accepted, as well as the desire to keep NI for Christmas. It could of easily be done, we hit NI, after Christmas it is RWed back and well then Turkey can find a TW partner for it. Guess simple solutions havent agreed with some people, as Finland attacked before our DoW, so the only other place left was Wales... after all, no point in wasting a DoW when we have an event on.
This is another good laugh. See a while ago CODE came to an agreement with the UK (remember the UK has been wiped and was happy to sign an agreement that allowed them to be someone elses lapdogs). This agreement was published twice that I know of, as it was a joint ANDES and CODE agreement. Both prints can be found here:
CODE: https://www.erepublik.com/en/article/peace-agreement-between-the-uk-and-code-andes-2708341
ANDES: https://www.erepublik.com/en/article/peace-agreement-between-the-uk-and-code-andes1-2708336
However if you actually read this agreement, you will see this in the text:
Which basically doesnt even include eIreland in it. So how are we suppose to keep to an agreement we didnt even sign??? So this so-called agreement with CODE was not agreed upon by Ireland and from my limited legal understanding, if we have not signed it, we arent involved in it. Plus the gov at the time actually reported back, Ireland wasnt included to allow us to do what we want in regards to NI.
Not only that, when eIreland joined CODE it was made well and clear that Northern Ireland belonged to eIreland, yet we still have not seen that happen. But hey, why worry about a member of the alliance.
One point that was raised was eIreland apparently doesnt care about CODE battles and countries trying to get cores back.
To be honest, this one did hurt a bit. After all, we are in the Telegram channel, which allows us to send troops straight away at a time of help (unfortunately it is not with much notice, instead more "we need hits here ASAP"), as well as most battles being asked for help with is turning walls in TW battles, but I digress.
If eIreland wasnt concerned about our allies or their battles, why are we hosting Albania in our cores for a TW? Albania unfortunately doesnt currently have any of it's cores, so we are more then happy to host them in our cores where they dont have a fear of an unwarranted RW. However apparently this doesnt show some people our commitment to CODE. And I am guessing the AS we have proposed and are voting through also doesnt show our commitment to CODE.
This is FACT. Northern Ireland is apart of Ireland, hell just look at the name.
NI was set out from the start, from the Irish Government as something we wanted under our national flag when we joined CODE. This is something that is raised time and time again, both in congress, in CODE and in Public.
This is ONE of the main reasons for this DoW and war. It doesnt take a rocket scientist to work it out.
This is another ONE of the main reasons for the war.
It has never been a hidden fact, I wanted to present Belfast as a Christmas present to our citizens, to let them enjoy some egg nog in down town Belfast, be it for the 24hrs until a RW started or a tad longer. CODE knew this, Ireland knew this, Turkey, Chile, Finland etc etc all knew this. Hell, I even wrote an article about it.
So it is pretty easy to understand the reasons behind the DoW.
Yet another ONE of the real reasons.
TW's are great to farm gold, to get a few hits and some TP medals/cash. But a real war brings it out 10 fold. Hell, just look at some of the Epics that came from it, the fun had both by the Irish and the UK in hitting like there was no tomorrow. Tie it in with the Plato Christmas event, it was perfect for people to hit their PP limits, to get their gifts, to earn tons in TP cash etc.
And isn't it better for Ireland to hit our old frienmies the UKers?
This is something that I am announcing and standing by. The UK is in our backyard. As stated above, eIreland wasnt apart of the agreement by CODE, hence us not being listed there (unless CODE wants to admit Ireland is nothing to them and they forgot to add us...). We will have troops in NI, be it the quick way via one region, or the long way by landing in London.
This is true no matter who is in the hot seat. We as a one united Ireland, want to rejoin NI.
Yep, that has also come up eIreland. The UK has spoken about a TW with Ireland as long as I am not CP. Unsure if it is due to the last time we had a TW with them and I was CP, they back stabbed us and we went to wipe them (only to stop due to I was being nice) or it is because they think they can choose who runs our country (I really hope they dont think we are a UK puppet). The scary thing was CODE's response to it....
Any way, that is just brushing on somethings that has been raised since the DoW against the UK. I am pretty sure I will check in on Telegram to another 400 hateful messages, but hey, I will always put Irish interests first, our allies second and the UK's last
😛.
Remeber these are my thoughts and may not be the same as every Irish player... after all Winston Hope Smith voted No to the DoW, so UK you do have some friends here and people who disagree with me. eIreland, prepare for the Air Strike against Netherlands, to help a fellow CODE country out (and to think apparently we dont care for CODE..)
Rusty D
Comments
>"an English Player named Sir Humphrey"
>>> He's Scottish not English
To be fair, "Scottish" is one of those irregular adjectives that non-Brits have trouble understanding. When he's done something wrong, he's Scottish. When he does something right, he's British. But he's certainly never English.
Understandable when some countries do it but coming from an 'Irish' player is a bit weird as they should understand the differences and inclusions/seclusions when using the terms United Kingdom. British, Celtic and so on...
I've learned not to assume eIrish citizens are actually Irish - every time I do they turn out to be Croatians or something. Plus, this is coming from the Free Australian Press, just to add to the confusion... 🙂
>"UK will have a TW with Ireland as long as Rusty D is not CP"
Slightly incorrect.......the UK will not have a TW operating along regions bordering Ireland when such regions are at risk from attack by a third party (in this case Ireland as Ireland refused to sign the agreement when offered). It's just a pain in the ass making adjustments for.
There's not going to be a TW with Ireland as players get excitable about it (Unlike in Wales which the one epic aside was ignored) and it goes off the rails like non ones business.
So somebody was present from Ireland when making the agreement and refused to sign?
Ireland were listed in our original text -
"governments of the United Kingdom and the governments of Hungary, Greece, Thailand, Cyprus, USA, South Korea, Albania, Croatia, Turkey, Ireland, Montenegro (Hereafter referred to as CODE)...."
but we were told that Ireland did not want to sign due to Northern Ireland issues!?!?!
Dunno who the Irish player or players were that made that call but that's what we were told.
>Northern Ireland is a part of Ireland.
eRepublik coding seems to disagree and that's ignoring the RL issues around that point which, as someone who's a UK citizen from Ulster, we could debate and never agree.
Are the reasons for the war the parts of the article that have bold ONE written? I really can't be bothered reading everything...
And tbh, I don't mind ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ At least it's something to fight for, even if we lose, it's better than training wars...
Meh! - I fought in the one EPIC they made but otherwise ignored it.
Same old faces, same old places!
More for people closer to home. But happy to give you guys a fight. As much as the call for 'one Ireland' is, me being no where close to Irish in RL, it is just good to have a biffo and a beer afterwards.
We are a sovereign country and that's the most important thing in this article. We make our own decisions and sign our own treaties unless we're represented by someone elected within Code.
There's been misunderstanding/lack of communication and we didn't even know there's a deal with the UK. When things were still simple to fix it wasn't fixed as no one wasnt interested in the Irish interests over Northern Ireland. When we did our own thing and started actions we've got everyone's attention after many many months.
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Odd that your current government wasn't informed of it, although the treaty was signed well before the most recent CP elections. We were certainly told the Irish government of the time was invited to sign but refused.
As Rusty says though, it's somewhat irrelevant since Ireland didn't sign up to it.
We were just very inactive last month :/
Understandable, we've been very inactive for years. 🙂
"It was because someone stole my SH Medal"
I'm impressed by the lengths you went to sell this, even shouting about it just prior to hitting the DoW button:
Rusty D 3 days ago
To my firends... add this turkish medal stealing pr*&k to your lists:
erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/1936562
Turkey sort your fighters out.
"Because eIreland doesnt care about CODE battles"
It's certainly impressive that you're hosting an Albanian TW in your cores, that does show a great deal of dedication to your alliance! I can't think of another nation that would be willing to go to all that trouble for an ally. Of course, you also shut down Chile's TW in our cores by invading Wales, but still, an Albanian TW...that's true brotherhood!
https://www.erepublik.com/en/military/battlefield/234002
Interestingly, this battle was started at almost exactly the same time as your attack on Wales, but I'm sure the 40 billion damage you threw into shutting down Chile's TW wouldn't have done Croatia any good.
"We want a Real War"
We do appreciate the epic at the start of the event week, I think we all had a lot of PP to pick up that day, and doing it with an epic on home soil with Legend bonuses and TP medals was a nice change. Looks like you have your real war with the Netherlands now, you should be able to keep that one going a bit longer without screwing over your alliance mates so it's probably a better fit for you.
o7
dont worry we will free you from your overlords or do you enjoy being someone else's whipping boy?
Yep it is good to see Netherlands come out and fight, maybe you could learn something from them?
We didn't have a dog in the fight you started - Wales was assigned to CODE/ANDES (in this particular case - Chile) so we considered it a CODE attack on ANDES and thus it was relegated to 5th on our list of battles for that day.
Can you make it next Tuesday if you do decide to screw with Hungary's TW as well? I don't need any more PP this week, but an epic to kick off next week would be useful.
And you're right, we certainly have things to learn from the Netherlands - they've done an amazing job revitalising their community and building up their military lately. I'd love to see us do the same.
The Current eUK view is that we don't have any 'free regions' that border Ireland given that both Northern Ireland and Wales have been assigned to CODE/ANDES control.
Therefore whatever is going on is purely an internal matter for Ireland, CODE and ANDES to deal with.
Once they've decided "What's occurring" then I'm sure they'll let us know and we can talk about re-starting the agreed upon TW(s).
'We' = Those nations that have signed the deal