The Incoming Constitution
Winston Hope Smith
Hi all
The Congress is now voting on a Constitution that is (if accepted) to be imposed on the population without their direct mandate.
Moomoohead posted a link to the document in Congress asking Congress for input and changes they wanted.
I, of course, did so. Some reasonable ones...nothing too major. Main one was a Constitution should be voted by eIreland's population in its entirety not a bunch hand-picked by party presidents.
Anyway I was ignored...the vote just started with some changes accepted but not the important one!
I highly suggest you contact your friendly Congresspeople and get them to vote NO. Lets do this right!
Here is the document for you to peruse... https://docs.google.com/document/d/1iwIu4Zg0DUczTzKKk4RNjvRaVyOx31UOPmg40HN92Qo/edit
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I'm up for a Dail vote considering just how small our population is at this point and it looks good to me. But I do see how a national vote is more ideal for something that effects all eirish players. I won't be angered if it gets voted yes though because I really believe the population wouldn't be very divided on this.
We differ profoundly then
I'll admit that years of fighting have lowered my standards of principles and demand for democracy. We'd probably still be in a full throttle civil war had I and others not grown tired of stressing out and learned to be more apathetic towards k*nt shenanigans. I'm getting tired of this game and I've learned enough to know it's a battle you'll never win to the day the servers close down. There are too many apathetic players at this point.
Hell I'm at the point to where I consider RTK to be one of the best MoD's we've ever had. The highlight of Slaugh's terms. He's given more updates and been highly entertaining compared to any MoD I've seen.
Before I'd have been quick to denounce him the moment he prodded Argentina because it will only make things worse for us on the battlefield. But this game is too predictable and I'm ready for Ireland to go out with a bang.
At this point I say to hell with peace. Let's take war when we can get it like Cyprus. Challenge the big bullies. Fight and talk mad crap while doing it. Let's have fun while this dying game has some left to be had.
Christ I should never of pulled out of the PP race in your favour lol
You're one of the good guys Raven but I hate to see you giving in to them. I'll stand for what's right to the end.
And RtK well he is a whole different class of idiot and if he did nothing we'd be better off
Whs - the last destroyer of good things.
Don Croata - a washed up propagandist
Raven look who liked your comment...should tell you all you needed to know
It's time to take the Raven out of the oven, it's ready.
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whats the word you used plebiscite .make a proposal 100% of ppl agree on it put it to vote by electorate(congress). the circle completed as per original design.
im doing what i have always done write articles give my opinion and as per plan (of viktor kurgan) when in government do my utmost to promote eireland. we are even making this dictator crap work for us. on the rl front im working 16 hours a day on redesigning everything i did before usually till 2 o clock in the mornings. i still find time to do here and there an article mostly for my own amusement. in the final instance and none of you really get it all that an online players needs to do is be active.
oh and i will bring out a trainspotting article later on out with the music and pics .
WHS is entitled to his views. He was not ignore, over 10 changes he suggested were changed. I do not agree with some of them and based on the comments in the congress threads I believe few do. We will let a vote determine what we collectively believe. Can I ask that the comments of this article not turn into an attack on him. Please keep to the subject of agreement on the constitution or disagreement, in the comments please.
Too little too late Moo. You said nothing when in Congress I did what you asked we do and suggested changes. I got abused and you watched and said nothing.
We will let a vote of a hand picked group determine what everybody will have
Not to worry the usual crowd will ignore it when it's not convenient
when do you realize that 3 of your party members was on the committee that drew up the thing. look your orcish snout and tail is growing bigger by the day soon even a congress thread will be too small for your ideas and posturing.
Unlike the cult of Ku&Ts just because someone was in my last Party does not mean I automatically agree with the outcome.
w h i n e s stoop mint h
Cry me a river.
let us summarize what actually happened and not the usual lies spewed out by Winny. Moomoohead asked 12 days ago for volunteers for a constitution committee http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/volunteers-needed1-2537530/1/20 . it was proposed by moomoo who was tasked to formulate the constitution that we do not discuss this in congress but that we should formulate committee who wold work on the british template and modify it to our use. Anyone all 273 citizens of Ireland could join and participate in this commitee. Nobody raised any objections to this plan and all were Ok with it and even the ILP had 3 representatives on the committee Tara C, Aoifie and Raven Anarcho. I was another volunteer, An sluagh as well Don Croata as well and moomoo of course . and i think tomislav as well.
so at that point we had formulated what is known in the common lingo as a COURSE OF ACION to formulate the Constitution. you can check the article it expressly states that there would be no discussion of the constitution by congress. so again we have course of action . we followed and I made a few suggestions and one change from foreigners to eForeigners. I suggested a decentralized immigration system but understandably with so many ppl actually active others did not agree. so be it.
so at the end of the process we had formulated a constitution and as per our course of action we should now have submitted it to congress for a vote. moomoo made a mistake here and being a far nicer person than most of us submitted it to congress for discussion contra our original course of action to which i obviously objected. moomo did include some of the suggestions and then corrected the procedure and put the Constitution back on to the table for voting by Congress alone no more discussions. so at this stage we are back on track and are voting as per our agreed upon course of action(whs you earlier silence must be construed as acceptance or incompetence else) on the constitution
What happen was...
Moo posted in congress the like to a proposed constitution
He asked for comments and proposed changes
I gave them
I was attacked
He did nothing
He set me up for a fall and no doubt enjoyed the result
If you were going to attack anyone it should of been him...he is the one who did not follow your rules
WHS I am sorry you got upset during this whole process. I am not being sarcastic, I mean that. This is a silly game we should all be playing to have fun, not to get annoyed. Your style of disagreement does put me off at times, but I tried to listen and treat you with respect. I must of failed in that based on your emotions. I will have to do better the next time. I apologize. Every disagreement is not 100 percent one side fault, so I take responsibility for my faults. I hope the next thing we see things difrently you do not feel like you were disrespected by me.
Did you ask for comments and suggested changes when you posted the link to the constitution?
Oh to add I had no real issues with our conversations over the constitution...my ideas would either be accepted or not, that is fine, I don't expect (like some) that my points must be accepted. "My disagreement" with you is that you hung me out to be attacked because you started a process which you seemingly had no right to do (this is what the Krakken said) and when I fell foul of the K*&t and his new sidekick you said nothing and let me get abused in vile ways for something you caused.
This is not surprising as many including youself NEVER stand up against the K*&ts when they hunt in packs. It is how they are enabled to do what they do.
It is one of the reasons why we lost Bhane.
Nothing has changed
you always have a mouthful about others work. you dont mind attacking other people. we would call your supposed anger about being attacked krokodil trane or crocodile tears. its all an act. poor old winnie.
Loving your referal throughout this article to k*nts.
Moo wrote the constitution and it has been supported by everyone so far but yourself.
This notion of k*nts hunting in packs is pathetic and far from any truth, there has no been pressure or nothing against Moo in this regard. The only person whose actually attacking him over this issue is you.
Moo is a eIrish citizen held in high regard by all for his neutrality and fairness, heck didn't you support his run for eIrish Premier? A lot of people did.
If YOU have a problem with this nation, where it appears we all are getting along fine please leave cause I am happy here, I'm getting along just fine with people who I haven't always seen eye to eye with (rtk and elite c) and we're enjoying ourselves, having fun, getting stuff done and having no problems. Everyones come round and the eIrish Community has never been so united.
You however are proving to be the only exception.
I don't know if it is you can't read or can and just don't comprehend what you read.
I already said wrt the Constitution I would of supported it if it was voted by the people not just a select few. I was not in any real dispute about it I was debating it in a reasonable manner as asked.
My problem with Moo is he set me up for attack...then walked away and watched it happen. He started a debate he seemingly had no right to then when I engaged in good spirit I was attacked. He then did nothing.
As for MUFC...the guy is a cancer here, a lot of people agree in private but are scared to say so in public...ask yourself why!
If getting along fine means people get attacked when engaging in reasonable debate then dude I say to you we are not getting along fine.
good on moomoo. hehehe i dont know what is best your butthurt or your river of fake tears.
What if we all for some reason voted "NO", would WHS then vote "YES" xD?
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No...I would of asked my suggestions be added and then put to the people to be ratified. simple really... If rejected by the people we ask why.
But I ask if Moo had asked you for suggested changes and you gave some would you have been attacked by MUFC and his sidekick? If so would Moo then do the right thing and defended you as it was HIS process? I am betting he would. But I suspect you would not of been attacked regardless as you a a k&%t supporter..
MUFC & Krakken are what they are...a K&^t and his new sidekick.
Moo always claimed to be above this but is in fact one of those who enables them. It is he who disappointed me most.