The Economist ~ The battle of ideas
Spite313
Dear friends,
This is an article which uses references to UK politics, but is equally applicable and I hope interesting to all of you, regardless of country. A few days ago we had an election in the eUK between Invalidation and ChewChewShoe. Invalidation himself said at the time it was the first election in a long time that was a battle of ideas rather than of personalities. On the one side you had Chewie, who to be fair came out with a decent series of sensible manifestos which could have been posted any time in the last three years and made a good splash with voters. Alice on the other hand came out with a radical manifesto which elicited a huge response- both positive and negative. The final vote with only a half dozen votes in it was victory for Chewie, but the closeness of the election speaks to me about the changing culture of the eUK and the world.
Let’s talk about Freedom
It’s a word which is probably overused, but freedom is at it’s most base level the ability to decide your own future. You are eBorn with it, but most of us give it up or sell it off in small parts in exchange for other things- security, community, electoral success and so on. When you join a MU you might, for example, give up your freedom to choose where to fight in exchange for being given weapons to fight with. Or if you join a political party you agree to vote who they support, in exchange for hoping that when it’s your turn to run your fellow party members will support you as well.
But I think giving up freedom to others has become a reflex action in many cases, to the point where people happily surrender their own ability to make decisions, make changes and influence the situation and try and foist the responsibility for those things onto others. The government is the most likely candidate, with every small failure being blamed on faceless bureaucrats who, on closer inspection, are just players like yourself struggling under the burden of doing everyone’s job for them.
Alice’s radical manifesto for the UK and for the world said that if you want something done, you should think about how to do it yourself. He doesn’t word things in quite the same way as me, but his “politics of confrontation and competition” weren’t about everyone hating each other, they were about just that- competition. Instead of one monolithic MU, many. Instead of one monolithic party- many. The idea is that if you have twenty different ideas, you’re more likely to hit on a winner than if you just rely on the same old people trying their best to cope with overstretched demand on their talent.
Let’s talk about social darwinism
One of the biggest fallacies to emerge in the election was that we are advocating a social darwinism, where everyone is suddenly dumped alone on a desert island of poverty and has to curl up and die beneath the proverbial palm tree for lack of food or education. Firstly this is a very cynical viewpoint which kind of props up our position that people are being trained to be incapable of looking after themselves, and secondly it’s just not true. Look at all the times when government influence was removed from an area of the eUK- and how it flourished.
Removing monolithic organisations and top-down control doesn’t encourage players to give up, it encourages them to step up. With the decks cleared, they can make the game anything they want. But they don’t stand alone, they stand amongst a crowd of hundreds or even thousands of citizens in bigger countries. They stand with their friends, the people they’ve met in parties or MUs. Even people who they just know from fighting together or the odd PM. I myself am very aware that I stand in the centre of a web of thousands of people who read what I write or say or hear of it from someone else, but have never actually spoken to me in person. That network is far more important to me as a person than any title or position.
These people- yourself included, reader- are well capable of achieving their goals if they work together and set their minds to it. A single person with a good idea can become three or four bouncing plans off each other can become a massive MU with hundreds of members. And it has- Legion MU was a little sapling once, but when the great tree of the UK national army was felled, it rose to be a powerful oak, reaching the top 50-60 MUs in the world. No small achievement for an MU that sprang out of the hard work of half a dozen players who just decided to make change without government intervention. And now Legion lies felled, another three or four MUs are springing up in it’s place.
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Let’s talk about education
Everyone is born with the same assets, and everyone plays the same game with the same rules. Yet within a year of beginning, a fundamental inequality has asserted itself between the ideas people and the people who are willing to follow. It’s not just a financial imbalance, though the richest people in the world are all ideas people. It is a political and cultural imbalance. The people who hold power - even the likes of BigAnt or DonDapper - are all people who embrace ideas, stood on their own two feet, and made the changes they believed in.
You as an individual don’t just have power over your own self, you have a mind and a mind is a tool for change. Take responsibility for yourself and you get your freedom, but take responsibility for others and you gain the power to change the world. The key to all of this is education. Education about how to make your citizen the best it can be, education about how to spend money to make money, education to learn the history of the world, what has tried and failed before, so you can avoid their mistakes when you build the future.
But this education doesn’t have to come from the government. We had over four hundred voters in the UK in the last election, and probably twice that many people living here. That’s a huge knowledge-base of experience which we as a country can draw on, and we’d be mad not to. Each of you is responsible for helping and educating others, and you take on that responsibility after your first week in the game. I can help new players using broad strokes like money and food- but someone who has just lived through the first few weeks of gameplay is much better placed to educate and advise than someone who is five years old this month.
Conclusions
The UK had an election about ideas, but the great thing about this philosophy is its success or failure isn’t decided by elections. That is simply another platform for the idea of a citizen-led bottom up country, another way for the UK to reduce it’s government down to an MPP signing, foreign affairs focused body.
Each of you, wherever you are in the world, has the power to make changes in the game. Changes to your personal circumstances and those around you. Use the social networks you have, bring people together, pool money and ideas and make the game you want to play. The only thing stopping you is an unwillingness to step outside your comfort zone.
You all have talents and experiences you could share with others. Don’t be frightened to volunteer yourself, but if none of the existing education programmes appeal, make your own. All you need is a newspaper, a keyboard, and time. You can PM people right now, and there are plenty out there looking for help - they message me every day.
I hope that if nothing else, I’ve made you think about it
Iain
Comments
Miau
what a load of ....
whiskas
DoDrew was here!
DoDrew is everywhere! 😃
That's a nice way to see things but I think the problem isn't creating other ideas rather than it is accepting other ideas. There is no point in having a hundred groups with a hundred ideas if we are still going to stick to the old ones.
o7
I quite like this way of thinking.
I don't agree with this.
It WAS an election of personalities because you guys seleted the nastiest person in the whole country to be the face of the campaign. Very little of the discussion around the election was about the ideas, it was all about what an awful person Invalidation is.
Regardless of how much they do in handholding MU and NHS programmes, part of the CP's job is to bring together and lead the whole community which Invalidation spectacularily failed at with his very daring to run causing a gradually intensifying week long flame war.
If you literally ran anyone else you would have won, the actual ideas you speak of are a better fit with (for example) New Era than ChewChewShoe's. You just didn't respect anyone else enough to choose a candidate that most people would find acceptable.
After all of the "no we are not responsible for Invalidation's awful actions because he isn't a TUP member" this year, you chose to reveal that yes he was in fact a member and in high enough esteem to be your CP candidate, outing the TUP leadership as liars. Why on earth would you do this?
Another thing is that while you guys may have correctly identified things which could be done outside of the Government, with no leadership ideas, just saying that your policy is to NOT do things comes off as lazy. There should have been a list of things he WAS going to do.
The entire "CP is our leader" thing is usually ignored in favor of functional bureaucrats and that needs to end because we DO need a leader figure.
I feel your wrong Goku i think new era tried to make it an election of personalities as a number of your member you included have fought with invalid. Everybody else were talking about the ideas why you guys were and still are shouting how "terrible and nasty" invalid is.
What happens in your camp doesn't reflect the entire of the euk and actually might show how out of touch new era are these days,
Fair enough, but it did take over quite a bit of the media.
It only became an "election of personalities" as people like you who hated Invalidation turned it into one. Just because it is your opinion that Invalidation is a nasty person, it doesn't mean that the same view is shared by the eUK community on the whole. The fact the election was so close is testiment to the fact that Invalidation isn't as unacceptable as you seem to think. I'm sure if there was a community vote on who is the nastiest person, I suspect that a few people like yourself, Dapper and BA would score very highly.
Invaldiation's articles and comments throughout the election focused entirely on the politics and didn't get personal against ChewChewShoe. On the other hand, various leading NE people participated in a negative campaign of articles and comments (in some case based upon homophobia).
I suspect most people will see any flame war being caused by sections of NE rather than Invalidation himself. Actually, I'd argue in a certain context that there wasn't even an "election of personailies" as I think most people saw the difference between political debate between the candidates and trolling articles by sections of the NE leadership.
Damn right we started it (this time).
Since it was probally me who started it, you'll find that the first comments were very reasonable and just asking for some kind of recognition that what he had done was wrong and that he had changed.
When that didn't happen it slid more and more towards negativity because you CAN'T have a guy like that as CP, think of the diplomacy *shudders*. He didn't show that he had changed and even slipped back into the flaming and tricks by the end.
Personally I didn't see this "debate" between the candidates, I'd like to be linked to it (not just manifesto links plz).
But what you fail to understand is that it is only you and a few small select group of people who genuinely hate and despise Invalidation. You might think he is unsuitable etc, but it is not a representative view of the eUK population. He was a close runner up in an election where the most people felt the other guy was a marginally better candidate. If he was so universially disliked then he wouldn't have been anywhere close.
The problem with you guys demanding an apology for what you saw as wrongdoings and then escalating it when you didn't get what you felt was owed is that most people in the eUK recognise that you and the usual NE suspects are equally guilty of the same accusations. You just look like a hypocrite when you demand an apology and then claim you have no reason to apologise for doing the same things.
What came out of the last election is Invalidation looking generally mature by not raising to the bait, while you guys made yourself look bitchy and nasty while accusing him of it... You guys really don't understand that the more you bitch about other people, the more you make yourself look the bad people.
Evidence please.
You realise that Invalidation's losers speech on the forums was to ask me to kill myself (with his friends)? Real mature!
New Era merely proved they were in fact the nastiest bunch of bullying homophobes in the entire country. NOBODY else was mudslinging. It was you guys.
Anyway, thanks for the homophobia casus belli, and freeing up a lot of my time. Your party will be degenerating rapidly now, and it will be all your fault for your intolerance and bullying.
you lost the election due to TUP members voting against you and the party for your trolling , face it what goes around comes around , you need to grow up sonny , calling ppl names like you did , that is why you lost , keep it up it will just be showing up your party once more .
Lost by a handful of votes.
Nice to see New Era will sell out their ideals just to spite TUP...
I thought a TUP were the elite that run this country into the ground sorry you guys are about 3 years to late if this was true invalid would have Waled into the cp role but it has shown something that will show a new age will overright a new era.
Voted, interesting read. Hail ChewChewShoe! o/
TUP members voted for Chewchewshoe , why to send TUP a signal not to bully and troll , the whole community did so maybe you will change your ways !
Less than 2% separated them, it was far from the 'whole community' sending a signal.
Which was a shame.
Chewie ain't whiter than white, so stop trying to paint him as such.
How is this "sending a message", when the universal panning of New Era across the UK political spectrum is "bullying"?
Your analysis of both Legion and the reason why people voted are both incorrect, or at the very least misleading. The other MU's are 'springing up' as you say simply due to the fact that the mass concentration of Div 4 players that was in Legion is now spread throughout the other UK MU's. There is nothing overly grand or surprising about this - it was inevitable. You should know better than most that the only future there is for supply-driven MU's is in the generosity and longevity of old players. Legion was shut down because the 'half dozen' people you cite could not afford the time or money to run it any longer. No other MU will be able to step in to replace that, barring the spending of RL money or some unlikely event where all old UK players band together to offer their wealth.
As for the vote, there may be a few who may have been persuaded by 'ideas', but in reality I am sure that the vast majority of players voted based on who their party officially supported or based on who they were biased against. Invalidation got the TUP votes, Chewie got most of the rest, and Moriarty got the protest/humor vote and likely some allegiance from his party mates. Nothing profound about that.
Finally, you're letting your RL beliefs seep into the section on 'social darwinism', which is really just a fancy way of telling people to fend for themselves. If you want a UK where people are left to their own devices, that's fine as an opinion. In my experience however if you really want to empower this group of players, you need to extend the olive branch and offer assistance. It's not that people are 'incapable of looking after themselves', it's that this game is STACKED against new players and they will quit without support. Legion worked because it was a community that gave freely and asked for nothing in return except loyalty to the UK, and it prospered because of it. You may be immune to the economic challenges of this game Iain, but you should at least get off your high horse
Roz sometimes the extremes have to show there are other ways
Well I'm always glad when my articles provoke a proper response, but I'm not sure you've got my point here. I'll try to respond anyway:
1. On Legion: my point wasn't that MUs aren't based around a supply network (though not all are), it was that MUs are private initiatives which evolve and develop according to the ideas of the founders. Now Legion has gone and there is a lot of D4 sloshing about, you'll see MUs based on other principles developing.
2. Again you miss the point - first of all not everyone voted by party lines otherwise Chewie would have won by a lot more, and secondly the parties themselves selected who to run - I'm assuming most had polls. So unless you're saying your parties had no say in who they backed or what manifestos they ran with, it was a battle of ideas. Although thinking about it ESO decided to abstain from politics again, which is getting more and more common.
3. My section on social darwinism was about how I wasn't advocating it, in fact the first sentence was all about how people didn't read things properly and assumed I wanted people to be left to their own devices. But as I said people shouldn't constantly rely on others to do what they themselves are capable of doing. New player help should come from everyone, not just a small minority. People should work at organising themselves. I had a business partner within a couple weeks of joining and have always worked with others since. Working with others is the path to success.
As a final point I feel that most people, yourself included, go down the route of viewing new players as actual babies incapable of surviving, as opposed to a 24 year old man who found the game in his lunch break and is perfectly capable of understanding game mechanics after reading a guide. This has a much gentler learning curve than Civ or Europa Universalis. Educate people and they are perfectly capable of playing the game themselves without babying from people.
MU's like Legion proved there was no need for the erep government to "extend the olive branch"
For some fecking reason I can't have a rant after Elle has posted.
Anyway Inval would have won had it not been for ludicrous decisions taken in the past 6 months.
because roz is true military mind and would kick your pussy CP hind all over the place
Come again?
Just nod, smile and back away slowly Chaz...
It was a joke mate not a very good one i try 😛
You have changed alot over time Iain, and for the better. o7
Voted.
A lot of you are misunderstanding what Iain is suggesting.
I think you might be overthinking this one, to call Alice's manifesto radical sounds sounds like a bit of romantic imagining. What was radical about the manifesto? the only real change I saw was the removal of government influence on the NHS. Everything else was just continueing along the same path, though maybe being more explicit about it.
If anything CCS's was much more radical (for good or bad), aiming to re-introduce more RP and government roles that have been completely stripped away over the last few years.
Also the talk about freedom and social Darwinism seems irrelevant in game, government has incredibly little (perhaps no) power in domestics and there are no monolithic, 'top-down' organisations to stifle players. players are (and always have been) free to do what they want without any government interference at all (even tax is congressional), and no matter who won the election that wouldn't change at all.
What you're looking for in terms of radicalism is radical policy rather than radical ideas. I mean radical in that it was a major culture shift from previous manifestos and stood out starkly against Chewie's manifestos, which followed the traditional pattern of empty promises and grand statements.
The government did used to have a huge amount of control over players gameplay, and it gets less every day as it's chipped away at. As I said in the article this isn't something decided by elections, because rule of that sort requires the consent of the ruled, and people are not willing to accept it anymore.
My article wasn't really about the election, but about the broader cultural change in the UK and the game generally. However I did use the example of the election to highlight the difference between those who accept and embrace the changes, and those who choose to believe they didn't happen.
Fair enough, I was definitely thinking more in terms of policy and practical ideas rather than a cultural context.
That said I would probably argue that the biggest driver of the change in attitudes towards the government role has actually been the practical impact of the economy/collapse in government income. People have accepted the idea that there is little government money to spend on anything but MPPs and the odd MOD cost rather than creating that change because they find it more culturally acceptable.
I do really like the idea that both you and Alice have talked about that its each players' responsibility to make the changes and do the things they want to see happen, rather than expecting government to do it. This already happens a lot in MU's and parties but the more its encouraged the better.
That said I don't think that precludes the government from taking on a more active role too, I don't see why the government should just be reduced to an FA/MPP signing role when it can also be another good outlet for players to create and work in the community.
I always vote for articles that mention Social Darwinism \o/
Keers talking more crap...
so blinded by hate, you sell out you ideals....
You as an individual don’t just have power over your own self, you have a mind and a mind is a tool for change. Take responsibility for yourself and you get your freedom, but take responsibility for others and you gain the power to change the world. The key to all of this is education. Education about how to make your citizen the best it can be, education about how to spend money to make money, education to learn the history of the world, what has tried and failed before, so you can avoid their mistakes when you build the future.
But this education doesn’t have to come from the government. We had over four hundred voters in the UK in the last election, and probably twice that many people living here. That’s a huge knowledge-base of experience which we as a country can draw on, and we’d be mad not to. Each of you is responsible for helping and educating others, and you take on that responsibility after your first week in the game. I can help new players using broad strokes like money and food- but someone who has just lived through the first few weeks of gameplay is much better placed to educate and advise than someone who is five years old this month.
Preach
I think you might be overthinking this one, to call Alice's manifesto radical sounds sounds like a bit of romantic imagining. x2
TUP tried to troll the eUK by standing their court jester as CP - shame on them for that, and shame on Iain Keers for supporting such a candidate.
TUP again.. New Era again..
Same as sh*t as always