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The Economist ~ On the PTO of the USA

Dan 1,876, 10:59 Objavljeno u Poland Poljska od Spite313


Dear friends,


Today I’m writing about the PTO attempt in the USA. As most if not all of you know, there is a large non-American presence in the USA. Partly this is made up of EDEN citizens who migrated there (mostly Romanians and Albanians) during the time the USA was allied with EDEN. Partly it is made up of Serbs, Hungarians and other ex-TWO citizens that were allowed in by Americans who wanted to use their voting power to take over the country.


At the heart of all this is the AFA, or American Freedom Alliance. And the figurehead and most famous member of the AFA is Ronald Gipper Reagan, also known as Pizza the Hut, Ajay Bruno, Winston S Churchill and a half dozen other names. RGR is a famous PTOer, racist and right winger who has been banned many times and yet always comes back. For a while he attempted to PTO the UK before he was banned, and spouted his vile hate against gay people, muslims and anyone non-white in our IRC channels and forums. He’s pretty much universally hated by everyone who opposes these hateful views, which is (I hope) everyone.


The secret to his success in America is balance. As a genuine English speaker, he can present an American face to the AFA, which succeeds in snagging votes from well-meaning but ignorant 2 clicker players. He also presents a neutral party that can represent both the ex-EDEN and exTWO players in his coalition. Both groups think that they are using him to PTO the USA, the truth is that he is using them.


Looking realistically at the situation, PTOing the USA is a bad idea for both groups. Even the attempt is a bad idea. At the minute the USA is neutral, though the President and several others have mentioned possible collusion with/entry into CoT. The USA still, in my opinion, has the opportunity and potential to swing either way. A large PTO attempt from any country will result in the enmity of the USA, which isn’t something anyone wants or needs- whether they’re TWO, EDEN or CoT. On the other hand, a successful PTO provides very little to any alliance, or none.




At the end of the day the PTO group is too disparate to be able to successfully align the USA with any one side. The USA MPPing TWO countries (SerHun or whatever) won’t provide them with extra damage- in fact it’ll do the opposite. The majority of Serb/Hun players who vote in the USA live in TWO countries at the minute, so they can fight. USA players are hardly likely to fight for any country that’s trying to PTO them.


RGR is out for one thing, his own personal victory over the country that’s scorned him for years. He’ll use anyone to do so, even the slavic peoples who he spent so long insulting in the past. Once he wins (and he may eventually do so) he will be in the awkward situation where virtually any decision he makes in terms of foreign affairs will lose him a significant percentage of his voter base. For that reason an RGR Presidency would probably see very few changes to foreign affairs, and for that matter TWO countries (and their allies) would probably refuse MPPs from RGR for fear of angering the legitimate American population.


Back when the first citizens of PHX moved over to the USA (the likes of Zoli and co) it was a running joke that they’d take over the USA eventually. The truth is that a PTO is only effective against small, weaker countries. Under a friendly regime small countries can’t ally with giant neighbours to regain independence, can’t access their finance, can’t attack. However a country as large and powerful as the USA, holding 6+% of the world’s damage and considerably more of its money would face no such limitations. Even under PTO the USA would be a powerful force, and it could use it’s muscle to hurt any country which participated in the PTO.


In short, this article is a condemnation of the USA PTO and the RGR shadow government there. It achieves nothing, and risks a lot. Increasing polarisation and radicalisation of politics, limitation of democracy and elections and the ongoing foreign affairs crisis are the only tangible effects of the PTO. It doesn’t bring more damage to TWO, it doesn’t improve our relations with America, bring us more money or make us new allies. This is no colonisation of New Zealand or Thailand, this is a full scale assault on one of the largest, oldest communities in the game.





I hope that soon TWO governments will come out and similarly condemn the PTO and officially denounce it. Privately most have already done so, but tacit support again achieves nothing whilst hurting relationships. The USA and TWO might never be bosom buddies, but that’s no reason to foist the likes of Ajay Bruno onto them out of spite. On the other hand, the USA needs to re-learn the lesson it learned with iNCi, and attempt to integrate parts of the community into itself. Not everyone who is foreign is an enemy by nature, but the AFA is always going to do well when the USA population is divided between Americans and PTOers. Isolating loyal sub-groups from the AFA and buying them into the American system will simultaneously strengthen the USA whilst weakening the PTO group.


The future for America is a bit bleak right now. The need for famous faces to rally the pro-USA side is pushing out newer players. In the last year we’ve had 12 old players as President there. For the next year we have more of the same to look forward to. Running someone the bulk of the population don’t recognise is a risk they can’t afford to take. PTO is always a bit morally grey, but in this case it’s not just wrong it’s stupid too.


Thanks for reading


Iain


 

Komentari

ObIiterate
ObIiterate Dan 1,876, 11:02

PTOs suck.

ddady yankee
ddady yankee Dan 1,876, 11:06

www.tinyurl.com/eSantander

Check the English Version.

LarasDea
LarasDea Dan 1,876, 11:06

Nice article, Iain
DEAMAXXXX

fagyan
fagyan Dan 1,876, 11:10

I agree with my ♥ Arrlo

vukio
vukio Dan 1,876, 11:10

PTOers of a smaller country like Romanian group lead by Cronoss in eSwitzerland sucks, Pizza the Hut tried the same long time ago in Montenegro and he failed as Cronoss will.

elbandido
elbandido Dan 1,876, 11:11

So true.

Bucephalus92
Bucephalus92 Dan 1,876, 11:15

Very nice article, hopefully TWO aligned countries will come out and condemn the PTO as you have.

WayneKerr
WayneKerr Dan 1,876, 11:19

stfu Keers, no one cares for your opinions anymore...

RaviMirza
RaviMirza Dan 1,876, 11:39

voted
good article, as always ; )

Spite313
Spite313 Dan 1,876, 11:40

Who are you WayneKerr? I recognise your name from somewhere?

WayneKerr
WayneKerr Dan 1,876, 11:57

You know exactly who I am... Don't lie!

vasmegye
vasmegye Dan 1,876, 11:57

It's complicated.

Grainne Ni Mhaille
Grainne Ni Mhaille Dan 1,876, 12:00

Contemplative and clear. Characteristically devoid of e-emotion, ofc, so let me add that. The guys a stalkerfreak nutjob as well.
Just sayin'

Bernard Hoffington
Bernard Hoffington Dan 1,876, 12:03

voted

ExZilYon
ExZilYon Dan 1,876, 12:14

Thing is that eSerbia won't ally with eUSA no matter what (or vice versa)... Serb PTOers in eUSA will never be condemned by eSerbian government because it isn't hurting them at all as they don't gain but don't really loose anything... eSerbia and eUSA will always be enemies in this game and there is nothing that will change that. I don't know how it is with other TWO countries but I see that there is some will that they sign that MPP with eUSA which again doesn't bother other TWO countries at all.

Murat Monstrum
Murat Monstrum Dan 1,876, 12:23

Politics in eSerbia is disgusting so many players are taking other cs.
Besides that, eUSA will always be our enemy in the game, there isn't a slightest chance that any of eSerbians will fight for eUSA. Maybe if PTO successes, will make some MPP just so eUSA would loose it's set of MPP's with some attack.. but in general, players are just bored, and this is a new challenge for them. : )

Israel Stevens
Israel Stevens Dan 1,876, 12:27

Thank you for this article Keers
o/

Avruch
Avruch Dan 1,876, 12:35

Voted, subbed.

fingerguns
fingerguns Dan 1,876, 12:37

"Very nice article, hopefully TWO aligned countries will come out and condemn the PTO as you have."

x2

Thorin II Oakenshield
Thorin II Oakenshield Dan 1,876, 12:39

лол .... lol

Kutluk Bilge Kul Anarsist
Kutluk Bilge Kul Anarsist Dan 1,876, 12:40

"Very nice article, hopefully TWO aligned countries will come out and condemn the PTO as you have."

x3

GregoryG
GregoryG Dan 1,876, 12:41

There are no Hungarians in the USA. We called them back long ago....

Tiamati
Tiamati Dan 1,876, 12:45

Excellent Article; sadly Birther eAmericans such as myself cannot revoke the Green-Cards which have been issued by corrupt members of the eUSA Congress. I personally have little interest in Political Power yet it is sickening to me to see residents of the eEurope and eAsia involved within the eUSA BodyPolitik.

Viarizi
Viarizi Dan 1,876, 12:47

These are all lies and "The Economist" should talk about the economic nonsense it is to have the highest taxes in the western world...

NO VOTE
NO SUB

Go back to Pakistan...

Sztandar
Sztandar Dan 1,876, 12:52

"RGR is a famous PTOer, racist and right winger"

Please do not use RGR to bash opinions/ideology/anything you disagree with.

You think of this PTO as a measure, but for many players it's the ultimate goal. To take over a country. To be in control. To defeat one of the biggest eRep nations...and this and that, and blah blah blah.

Overall not a bad article. Could be much better though.

Thermaikos
Thermaikos Dan 1,876, 12:53

Sheen Charlie says the true.
I think RGR dont care about alliances and MPPs. He bored and just troll.

Exalted Druid
Exalted Druid Dan 1,876, 12:58

Following your argument, why would you not let the AFA win once. They would not be able to agree on a direction themselves. They would split apart and the PTO would be over.

Kusuri Uri
Kusuri Uri Dan 1,876, 12:59

Pakistan stands against this and other PTO attempts.

Sztandar
Sztandar Dan 1,876, 13:00

Pride
Power
PTO not

Darian Dracona
Darian Dracona Dan 1,876, 13:05

V&S hardcore!!!

Cody224
Cody224 Dan 1,876, 13:46

The Power to deport citizens who have recently(6 months-1 year) immigrated should be a new option.

coolinbun
coolinbun Dan 1,876, 13:48

Votet...

objective analysis

Zoli
Zoli Dan 1,876, 14:08

Zoli 4 Potus

Kemal Ergenekon
Kemal Ergenekon Dan 1,876, 14:19

Voted, quality article.

EyeCAT
EyeCAT Dan 1,876, 14:21

"Following your argument, why would you not let the AFA win once. They would not be able to agree on a direction themselves. They would split apart and the PTO would be over."

Good question... Why not? Probably it is the fastest way to end this PTO deal...

vasmegye
vasmegye Dan 1,876, 14:22

@GregoryG: except Zoli.

Robert E.Lee 1861
Robert E.Lee 1861 Dan 1,876, 14:27

lets say just one thing USA will never be a friend-ally of Serbia.
Friendly advice,dont push it.

Publius
Publius Dan 1,876, 14:28

Zoli is a citizen of the world.

Emergy Maxfell
Emergy Maxfell Dan 1,876, 14:37

PTOs suck.

Supernana
Supernana Dan 1,876, 14:49

Well said Iain !

rainy sunday
rainy sunday Dan 1,876, 14:50

Zoli 4 Potus

I'm cool with that. ^^

desert hamster
desert hamster Dan 1,876, 14:51

serbia wont ally with usa.

dont push this. if you do, the privately organized pto has a chance of becoming... well... something else...

ligtreb
ligtreb Dan 1,876, 14:53

Good work Iain. Agreed.

Syz2
Syz2 Dan 1,876, 14:54

RGR has become synonymous with failure. Even if he wins, he is doomed to fail.

Spite313
Spite313 Dan 1,876, 14:56

Desert, nobody is asking for the USA and Serbia to ally. But PTOing the USA won't help Serbia, it only helps RGR. It's stupid and harmful to the interests of TWO.

nononever
nononever Dan 1,876, 15:04

good article

Captain Salty Kushskins
Captain Salty Kushskins Dan 1,876, 15:11

I personally don't agree with the characterization you've made here, but I have voted it because I think it's one of the more reasonable and better-written articles on the subject. Always a pleasure to read.

Arn.Magnusson
Arn.Magnusson Dan 1,876, 15:12

Following on desert hamsters comment:Serbia will PTO you and give " Fort Knox" keys to him.And jus then you will realize the true meaning of pain and devastation

PigInZen
PigInZen Dan 1,876, 15:14

Interesting analysis, far too many Americans are limited in their perspective to the effects the PTO is having on them, understandably I might add.

Thanks.

desert hamster
desert hamster Dan 1,876, 15:16

Iain Keers

serbian government has nothing to do with the pto going on in usa. we should
beat them on the battlefield.

having said this, we wont accept usa in any way or form officially in TWO. also, while we do not have any say on who will be in COT, we will make sure our voice is heard about this issue in cots member countries.

 
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