Statement of Bulgarian Foreign Ministry on latest events
Ministry of Foreign Affairs BG
[EN]
Greetings,
As the MoFa of eBulgaria I'm obliged to make the following statement:
1. Turkey's application and thus trial membership to EDEN have failed and Turkey is no longer a trial member and EDEN HQ does not have the authority to change or modify the rules on this matter. By doing so, it has lost it's impartiality and assumed a hostile position towards a member state, with the main culprit the SC of the alliance.
2. SC of EDEN and the HQ of EDEN have on numerous occasions in the detriment of Bulgaria, changed, modified and created rules and interpretations to hinder, maliciously accuse and tarnish Bulgaria's reputation, interests and ability to be an equal member of EDEN.
3. That the vote to suspend it's privileges is invalid and is just the last of a series of arbitrary and subjective actions towards it by the SC and EDEN HQ of the alliance. No matter if not all members of the HQ agree with it, the silence with which all has been allowed to happen is quiet accomplice.
4. It ceases to recognize the current SC and HQ of the alliance, as they have clearly demonstrated a bias and thus are incapable of executing their responsibilities.
5. It ceases to recognize on "good faith" the now long since expired charter of the alliance, and will only recognize a new one, prepared with the mitigation of a new elected HQ. It will only recognize the decisions, made by a vote of all CPs or previously recognized by a given CP representatives.
6. Because of all of the above and the silent acceptance by most CPs of EDEN members, Bulgarian, president and congress, due to the wish of a sizable part of Bulgarian players have scheduled a referendum to be held on the membership of Bulgaria to EDEN. The exact date on which it will be held will be announced by the new government which is to be elected in 2 days time.
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Finally I would like to finish this and hopefully close this subject, by expressing the gratitude of Bulgaria and its players for the support of Ireland, Portugal and Israel on this matter. Bulgaria has not up to this moment at any time engaged in lobbying so their position is completely sincere and thus very much appreciated.
Regards,
eDarkAngel (Stoich),
MoFa of eBulgaria
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[BG]
Здравейте,
Като Външен министър на България имам задължението да направя следното изявление:
1. Кандидатстването и съответно пробнното членство на Турция в ЕДЕН е неуспешно и Турция вече не е пробен член на съюза. Ген Щаба на ЕДЕН няма право да променя или модифицира правилата свързани с това. Като с действия в тази насока е загубил своята неутралност и е приел враждебна позиция спрямо страна членка, като главния виновник е главнокомандащия на съюза.
2. Главнокомандаващия на ЕДЕН и Ген Щаба в ущерб на България, са многократно са поменяли, модифицирали и сътворявали правила и интерпретации с цел да се възпрепядства, zлонамерно обвини и целенасочено очерни репутацията на България, нейните интереси и възможност да е равнопоставен член на съюза.
3. Гласуването за суспендиране на правата на България като член на ЕДЕН е невалидно и е само последното от серия от своеволни и субективни действия от страна на Главнокомандащия и Ген Щаба. Без значение, че не всички членове на Ген Щаба са съгласни с тези действия, с мълчанието си са дали негласно съгласие на всичко случило се до момента.
4. Престава да признава сегашния Главнокомандващ и Ген Щаб на съюза, тъй като са изрично демонстрирали своите предрасъдаци и съответно са еспособни да изпълняват повече своите задължения.
5. Престава да признава “на добра воля” вече отдавна изтеклата харта на съюза и за напред би признала само нова такава, подготвена с посредничеството на новоизбран Ген Щаб. Продължава да признава единствено, решенията взети с гласуването на всички президенти на страни членки или предварително опълномощени от тах, техни представители.
6. Поради всички изброени по-горе причини и мълчеливото приемане на тези действия от страна на повечето президенти на страни членки, българския президент и парламент, в съответствие с желанието на голяма част от българските играчи, са насрочили свиването на референдум на тема членството на България в ЕДЕН. Точната дата за провеждането му, ще бъде оповестена от новото правителство което ще бъде избрано след 2 дена.
Тъй като еРеп има лимит на дължината на статиите който е расистки към мен, за по-детайлни обяснения, кликнете тук. (превода на Български ще закъснее с няколко часа, заради възникнали ангажименти.)
Накрая искам да завърша тази тема с надеждата, че тя ще бъде и последна по този въпрос, като изкажа благодарността на България към играчите на Ирландия, Португалия и Израел за подкрепата им. България до този момент не е използвала лобиски методи за да набира подкрепа и затова тяхната позиция е напълно искренна и съответно силно оценена.
С Уважние,
eDarkAngel (Stoich),
Министър на Външните Работи на еБългария
Comments
фърст ... май
Çok komikmiş yönetici kardeş.
Bulgaria has the support from Norway as well.
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/1980772/1/20
Hail Bulgaria!
Hail Norway!
Hail the Brotherhood!
HAIL EDEN ffs!!
добре че има английска версия че да разбера за ко иде реч 😃
Thank you Ireland, Portugal and Israel ! Thanks and to all people from Eden who respect us, however we try to stand up for what we believe!
Hail TRUE Brotherhood !
добре че има английска версия че да разбера за ко иде реч
+1
Thank you MoFA!
Supported !
India always with Bulgaria !!!
ameba
I am reading your link... and I have to ask myself, are you aware of what you are writing???
Referendum and congress vote are done AFTER the trial and when EDEN is ready to accept the applicant. So if Turkey is accepted to EDEN, then they hold the referendum/congress vote. Those requirements are written in order of their execution.
Also, 1 month trial is a MINIMUM trial period that is given to an applicant. Ireland had one NO vote after their trial and it AUTOMATICALLY continued until next vote, when they were accepted into EDEN. Same applies for Turkey.
"Before the expiration of the 1 month trial, the SC of the alliance, should have convened a summit to either extend the trial status or to vote on permanent membership of the alliance, neither were done, so on the 18th of January Turkey's status as Trial member ended by default."
You are reading the treaty COMPLETELY wrong. There can't be a vote BEFORE trial period is over? That is not only logical but also so obvious that your interpretation sounds so stretched that I doubt even you believe in it.
"Bulgaria has been blamed as the reason for which Turkey is not allowed in the alliance, however no other country has placed a vote for Turkey in an official capacity, so all consequent statements, that Bulgaria is working against the wishes of the alliance by EDEN HQ are invalid."
Seriously, do you believe stuff you are writing? Btw VETO doesn't exist, you cast a NO vote and that vote stopped Turkey from joining. Veto would mean that any country can stop any decision any time - that doesn't exist in EDEN. Fact is, admittance into EDEN requires 100% YES votes, so 1 negative is sufficient to prevent candidate from joining.
Voted and support from the Czech Republic
само така
v
Not sure if sarcasm or just stupid.
[00:42:59] *********: 3 часа преди края на битката плана е бил Иран да обяви НВ Русия, 2ч преди края Абса се е свързал с него и му е казал , че Русия трябва да обяви НБ Иран. Той е говорил с щаба и ТЕРРА
i dont speak bulgarian so you know i didnt write this.
What will happend if people choose to stay in EDEN and what if they don't?
@Romper,
You are suspended from Bulgarian Channel!
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SHUT UP!!!!
Romper +
p.s. whens the press conference?
Мноу кратка е.
""it is "common sense logic" that after an application has been denied by a vote to deny entry int the alliance, the actual application becomes void and a new application is needed for any subsequent attempts at joining the alliance."
It is common sense that candidate needs more time to prove itself to EDEN members. To end the trial you need a vote and you need to prove that the candidate deserves to be kicked out of trial membership. That is common sense.
4. The “66% rule on trial status” - I agree with this. It is only tradition, but if and only if presidents agreed to this rule, it can be considered legit.
5. Bulgarian offer
I agree it was a good offer. What I don't agree with is this: "No CP of Bulgaria can guarantee an MPP, as that is the sole decision of the congress." - In this case (which is a good example of independent congress) CP was supposed to ASK CONGRESS BEFORE offering this to Turkey. If and only IF congress accepts it, this offer should have been presented. Otherwise it can be seen as deceiving.
Romper you don't have life?
romper +
You have my lols .
Vote from Chile o/
The truth! To all incompetent HQ trolls - Initiate crying rivers sequence - NOW!!!
Romper, you must search for the meaning of "trial" in the dictionary. And you also must GTFO
EDEN is PTOed ?
Romper, you've said and done enough for the last couple of weeks. You are not welcome here any more.
Romper get a life... and GTFO!
"Bulgaria supported an RW in Turkey which was won." - this is a clear breach of treaty. Also, Friendly non-member is correct definition of Turkish status, plus attacking trial member is completely unacceptable!
You also forget direct fight Turkey - Iran where Bulgaria fought on Iranian side?
"At the same time the argument, can be made, that by blocking Bulgarian attempts to gain irrelevant regions to Turkey (non member/trial member) after a clear breakdown in diplomatic efforts, due to Turkey's rejection, is acting against the interest of the alliance as Bulgaria is a full member of the alliance and the expansion of it's economy is in direct interest of the alliance as one of the primary military forces of the alliance, without jeopardizing in anyway the economy of the non-member/trial member of the alliance." - this is what you should have told the council (EDEN presidents) instead of attacking the trial member, as I pointed out on numerous occasions. Even now you do not accept any wrong doing on Bulgarian part, trying to justify such an action with diplomatic failure?
7. Money - I don't have any info so no comment
What will happend if people choose to stay in EDEN and what if they don't? x2
Romper+Hoffa+Oles=ВНЛ 😃DD
First of all, it's not my place, as my country is only a GEA member. But wouldn't it be more fruitfull to organise a large EDEN meeting? Maybe spread over a couple of days, to help getting back together, and discuss the many topics that obviously need to be adressed? Let's not ever forget that EDEN is a Brotherhood, so we all must be able to work thoose things out together.
van Spijck
candidate for CP of eNL
p.s. based on your logic if the "charter of the alliance is expired" then your right to veto is expired.
so which is it? does the charter exist and you have a veto or does it not exist and you do not?
and in "good faith" you should accept that the charter still remains in effect and not try to find "technicalities".
By doing so, it has lost it's impartiality and assumed a hostile position towards a member state, with the main culprit the SC of the alliance. ///
This assumption is wrong. They supported EDEN in every battle. Including support to eBulgaria in the battle against eHungary
It ceases to recognize on "good faith" the now long since expired charter of the alliance, and will only recognize a new one, prepared with the mitigation of a new elected HQ.///
This is your right to do the way you believe to be correct. I am personally also convinced that the charter of the alliance needs to be modified. First of all, to prevent in the future such conflicts between applicants and members of EDEN which we had within last couple of months.
We just hope that eBulgarians will demonstrate their wisdom following referendum and regardless of outcome would act in accordance with principles of mutual respect between different countries which were friends for many months or years.
+
EDEN is PTOed ?
This is more and more obvious.
Romper, pls don't tell me you actually read the whole gdoc 😃
I agree it was a good offer. What I don't agree with is this: "No CP of Bulgaria can guarantee an MPP, as that is the sole decision of the congress." - In this case (which is a good example of independent congress) CP was supposed to ASK CONGRESS BEFORE offering this to Turkey. If and only IF congress accepts it, this offer should have been presented. Otherwise it can be seen as deceiving.
X2
Friendly non-member is correct definition of Turkish status, plus attacking trial member is completely unacceptable!
X2
romper said everything
what else we can say
Why do all the HQ members -ignore- the part with the vote to expell Bulgaria from eden?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Romper +
There is something that is missed very conveniently - the RW in Iran and the swap of regions Bulgaria had negotiated caused absolutely NO damage to Turkey or EDEN had they not interfered. None of them would have lost resources, military advantage or strategic importance! On the contrary! Bulgaria, a FULL MEMBER of EDEN gained losses.
This means, it was EDEN HQ and ROMPER that breached the treaty of EDEN, not Bulgaria!
GTFO of here, hypocrites!
Supported !
Croatia always with Bulgaria !!!
I'm quite disappointed by the rudeness people are showing to Romper. No need to insult your former (and probably future) friend- cut it out.
I sincerely hope Bulgaria shows its class and votes to remain in EDEN and work things out, which I firmly believe is in all EDEN's best interest.
в линка е сбитата версия
Wow. Are you a lawyer? This article is awesome, it explains everything. I am a huge fan of yours for giving us this insight. Thanks.
8. 8. Voting for suspension of privileges of Bulgaria (termination of all applications to gain membership to alliance by Turkey)
Here, numerous procedural errors can be observed. No need to point them our, you already did that. I think you missed that 2 presidents didn't vote and they had 24h to cast the vote. So there was no way to end the vote there and then. This doesn't mean that Bulgaria is innocent (my opinion) or that they shouldn't be sanctioned. It simply has to be done following procedure so I hope that after elections new meeting will be called for and the proper procedure will be followed.
9. Arbitrary actions of SC and EDEN HQ
I do not know if anyone else is elected by the council, except CS and MC. So I can't comment on any of this.
As for vMoD I do not know when this happened, but if this was during the Bulgarian official fight for ONE against Turkey, then that vMoD had to leave the channel on his own. He was at that point issuing orders against EDEN and sitting on EDEN channel? If timing was not during the fight, then I don't have info why he was kicked out.
You forgot to mention MPP with Iran in all this. It is also a clear breach of EDEN treaty, signing MPP with a full member of ONE?
Plenty of information is continuously not being given to Bulgarian public by their official, like an article of tablov, CP, not mentioning that Turkey trial is suspended. Why is that?