Response - Dignity Brigade Leaving
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by OKayOK
Lets face facts: There is a terrorist MU in this country, and I am not afraid to name them. The Lazocracy Movement is a far cry from what the founding members had in mind. They are tyrants that want nothing more than to eat away at the Social Fabric of this eNation. Their treason, their contempt and their dishonesty should become legendary among PTO groups of the world.
But we are eSouth Africa! We are a people accustomed to thriving through adversity and we are making headway. We are not weak in heart but we are weak in number. The terrorists push and push, looking for a crack and they just found it.
If the Dignity Brigade leaves eSouth Africa, we will loose 25 true citizens and I am not sure this is something that eSouth Africa can endure. I have know the DB, I have been a member, I believe in what you believe in. When Jizzie and friends set out on the DB adventure it was to stand in the face of tyranny, to tell the PTO'ers of this world "NO, YOU CAN NOT HAVE THIS LAND" but now, if we are abandoned by the ones who call themselves dignified, I think that you will be leaving a land fertile for tyranny and I fear that when you one day return, eSA will no longer be the community you once knew.
Remember your founding Statement: http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/dignity-brigade1-901665/1/20.
I beg you, I plead with you: RAISE THE BLACK SHIELD AND PUT DIGNITY FIRST. Do not abandon us in our time of need.
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POLEADO!!!!!!!
There's a point where you need to give up, and move on.
What has happened before, past achievements in the face of indomitable foes, has no relevance to today's problems. The Lazos aren't honorable like the Huns; the Lazos can't be punished and subdued by admins like the 4channers. You don't have the numbers needed to beat them, and they're unwillingly to become part of the community.
You should take pride in eSA's past achievements, remember them fondly, and move on, less you taint them with failures on the horizon.
Will all due respect - Go Frak yourself - What a load of Sh*t
I'm amazed at this point I'm still "due respect" but, pleasantries aside, I am right here. eSA lacks leadership; you haven't had a successful CP in almost a year, there's no semblance of military, coordination, no influx of citizens either newborn or foreign, you have nothing to fight with. You will fail, and the Lazos will win.
The way you speak, you seem to want that?
I want nothing, Mark. I've achieved all I can from this game; i've been a good president and a bad one; i've made alliances and destroyed alliances; i've made MUs, changed MUs, fought, won, lost; i've seen people from all over the world, all walks of life; i've fought and helped defeat PTOs around the world; i've inspired others to work in this game and succeed; i've profited from the game in ways you can both quantify and can't.
There is nothing more I could want, as I'm simply floating in the wind at this point. As such, I'm simply stating the truth.
Tenshibo, I think what you actually mean to say: "You should take eSA's money and run, then remember them fondly, and move on. And even have the arrogance and audacity to come back and make remarks about how the country you ripped off should or should not be run"
I didn't take eSA's money. Grimstone is the only person I know with the passwords, maybe he took it, and I simply took the blame like a kind gent? Prove it to be false.
we can arrange citizenships from argentina or serbia or Turkey for the ones who are leaving
I get what you are saying Mark. You are not entirely wrong in your points. But this decision is based on a greater level than the ingame events. For many of us the DB is a sanctuary for many things where eRep is a part of it. eRep was the founding reason, but lately the group has joined to discuss politics, talk shit, make jokes and play other games. After that eRep grew more and more tedious, most of us have lost the spirit here and are two clicking mainly due to the time we invested in the game. We have tried to do CPR on the group so many times that I can't count them. We will still live by our old standards and code, be sure. Just that this time we will do it somewhere else, and hopefully the group will prevail.
It does not change the fact that this will hurt eSA
I appreciate the effort Mark, and SNAFU kind of said it best. (He was a dead citizen until we discussed this a week ago)
It won't be 25 members, (I don't even think we have 25 members in our core ranks still playing this game...)
Ultimately this won't hurt eSA as much as it has potential to build the DB for the future and maybe even revive some ranks within eSA. We already potentially have revived 3 citizens with the move.
Honestly, apart from me (and Rexdeus/wacky368, but I don't believe they have plans on leaving) none of our members have been any help with the ATO, nor have they had the fire to do anything. In our current state we benefit eSA none other than a few extra numbers, who sometimes vote (The dead cits never vote)
The DB Forums have been a graveyard for the last 3 months as well, we can't convince our members to participate in-game, when they aren't even participating within our social circles. Even the discussions regarding what to do with Tenshibo in our system garnered nary a response. Rico Suave hasn't even give more than one comment within the last month and a half, and he's our 2nd most active member.
Well played Mark!
I will stay, but I can't seem to muster the energy these days. I'm even struggling with the DB forum, as Claudio pointed out, and that's a new one for me. No, we need to give this a chance. In the long term it will prove better than the alternative.
I'm not as cynical as Tenshibo. By no means do I think it's time for eSA to give up, especially with you coordinating the ATO, I think the country is on fresher legs than than it's been in a long while. That being said, I'm broken, and I was discussing with Leon the other day that I was going to try to revive the group with a move, and if I couldn't do that, then I was going to quit.
Either way, I'm trying to not only save the community which keeps me playing and enjoying this game, but also save myself and reignite the energy of fun competition and desire. I used to get so much enjoyment out of the game, now I've found myself logging in once a day and helping out of obligation.
I felt guilty for a long time after we left Brazil and for a long time I did things out of obligation and guilt. No More. I'm on a quest to have fun. fuel my competetive spirit and once again reign supreme.
very sad day for eSA 😢
DB will always be eSA heroes, it is indeed a very sad day in eSA 🙁
Dignity first, Dignity forever!
Indeed it is a sad day for eSA. And we will be losing a group of great players. Not all of DB will move, we still have work to do in eSA.
A it stands what DB can do to help is very limited, and although it is valuable help, DB is able to be much more help, but for this we have to become what we were, with all the immediate threats diminished over the last 2 years it has meant we have "cooled down" we need to heat DB up again and then emerge the DB we all know and need, stronger and more relevant to be able to assist small nations.
Dignity First, Dignity forever!
Dignity First, Dignity Forever!
Dignity First and Forever!
I'm actually surprised that this many people care whether or not we stay or go, including (former member) Mark, considering our rocky past. I don't see this as a permanent move and it doesn't mean we all leave en masse. The DB has always been more of an international force anyway.
You are number 1 on my FL mate. Who gives a shit about our rocky past
Also the ones that have never been members consider DB an important part of this eSA personality
I'm happy to hear that. Even though we've always thought of ourselves as an international group, we were formed in eSA out of eSA citizens, and from the ashes of a defeated eSA. But over the years people seem to have had mixed feelings about us with more criticism than compliments. We're getting more love now than we've had in most of our time here, which is why I think many of our members didn't think it would matter if we stayed or left. Personally, I'm still here and am not sure what I'm going to do. As a two-clicker, I'm probably irrelevant anyway.
Dignity first, Dignity forever!