Paradigm of eAmerican CP- only masochists are true patriots
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by Semper5
Being a rich and prosperous country with a wealthy and productive economy is contrary to the national interest. eUSA citizens must forgo their economic stability, profits and prosperity in order to prove their loyalty. It doesn't matter if doing so would weaken our personal military power (and thereby a national military power as well). It is essential to prove our loyalty through a renunciation. - This is what our CP claims.
Who are you, Civil? Jesus Christ? The basis of successful military power is a strong economy. This applies to diplomacy too.
If there are any political issues, that's what the CP and congress should solve. If he isn't able to do his job as he should, then he should resign. Civil can't expect eAmerican citizens to pay, to give up for what they worked hard, fight hard and have invested a lot, just to prove their loyalty to him. Not to eUSA, but to him. As for EDEN, I will write just one phrase - nobody is an island. If we have issues with our allies, solve it diplomatically, not by doing harm to eAmerican people and eAmerican country.
So, here's the paradox: After we fought hardly to win battles and to conquer regions, after we have invested so much resources and have made so many damage/influence to get and preserve our 100/100 bonuses, doing it for personal benefit and for the benefit of eUSA, who is the one who has the right to question our loyalty and all that we have done and what we are ready to do for this eNation? Article published by the CP and his entire extremely questionable logic is difficult insults and disdain of every decent eAmerican citizen. Is he automatically entitled to "measure" who is more eAmerican? Is he greater patriot then any other eAmerican?
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first, send q7 tank NOW !'!11
Voted!
voted hard.
~hyuu~
for the sake of common sense, lets hope that Civil Anarchy does not get to decide.
Find the article quite logical! Where is the logic of the CP?
I appreciate your perspective.
Voted for truth; I agree with you entirely.
PotUS cannot be a dictator; they are to enact the wishes of the eSenate who have been woefully silent regarding this arranged travesty.
Hmm, interesting indeed
Voted!
Good questions !
No he is not Jesus Christ, because i dont think even JC would be stupid enough to harm people in order to get something.
Indonesia really got off easy considering all we had to invest in order to win a few battles.
It was costly, but fun and rewarding to know we had the power to do it. But it seem like it was too good.
Now we'll just give back our region without a fight, and with USAF supplies at that! I bet indonesia must be rolling on the floor atm.
show them that they need everyone to make that e-nation big http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/xenophobia-2113530/1/20
Indeed Semper5...when I read your article I totally agree with your logic, which it opposite of what can I say when I read Civil's "true patriot" article.
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This isn't about guving regions back. This is about making friends with Indonesia and Spain. You don't see us giving back any regions to France or Mexico.
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Serguma, there IS NOT first class and second class citizens in eRepublic no matter how much some people here wish for that and more importanly act upon. Also, there IS at least one more reasonable (perhaps not as easy though) way to improve control over who gets to the Congress - lessen the TOTAL states number but keeping the bonuses.
The thing that CP (or ruling class) is going for the destructive way is interesting, especially as the idea above HAS NOT even tested.
More than that Serguma, if you think that you are allowed to say your opinion about USA "internal matters" then perhaps you can tell me why other foreigners WITH USA cz may not voice their opinion or their opinion is not worth to be considered as argument?
Also, perhaps you wanna know how much some of the last presidents of the USA had to buy votes for their articles? I'm sure that if CP is ok with buying votes then so should you - at least based on your attitude i saw in your comment.
U.S. citizens are divided into two streams, proEDEN and proCTRL. In this situation, the majority has proEDEN current. To ensure the supremacy proCTRL power is needed to bring citizens from proCTRL countries. You also need to reduce the number of people from EDEN countries to weaken stationed proEDEN current. In doing so, they will use. The administration can not make a sudden turn for the majority of citizens who are against the change in American foreign policy and alliances.
These procedures will be repeated as many times as needed to get a majority of citizens in the pro CTRL option. This has already been seen in Poland and Spain before leaving a Eden. A similar thing is happening in Brazil.
Deliberately are forgets one thing. American citizens who oppose proCTRL option will ask their friends from EDEN countries to assist in achieving their goals. It also is logical that friends helping. Therefore it is not about any PTO by EDEN, but is help at the request of friends. It is trying to portray as a PTO, which is trying to create animosity towards citizens EDEN countries as well as the Eden.
Said Serguma, former ONE supreme commander xD
That is why eUSA citizens are fighting and will continue fighting to keep their bonuses.
eUSA citizens clearly showed what they think about CA's "logic".
No, Serguma. This article has been wrote by eAmerican. My RL nationality has nothing to do with this.
Clarissa Olson Bear, thanks for make it a little more clear for me. I stopped to mess up with politics a long time ago.
Well, if that's true - I don't mind. It's everybody's right to have an opinion, to say it and to fight for what they believe is right. It applies to CP as well. What I can't stand is a lie. If a CP lies to the nation, he don't deserve do be a president no longer. Obviously, Civil hasn't guts to say his opinion loud and clear, so he made up a story about "loyalty".
To be honest, I'm not a politician and I don't do politics no more. And I don't give a damn about it. I'm a member of MU and I trust my commander and I'll do whatever he tell me to do. I'm loyal to eUSA, to my MU and to my brothers in arms. But I expect from my CP to be a honest person and to tell a truth, no matter what. It's not up to him to decide, it's up to eAmerican nation, eUSA citizens, despite of anyone's origin. That's what is called a democracy. It's up to people to make decisions.
agreed, a strong country is a country with a cCcStrong economycCc
Semper Voted and subscribed!! I've been saying this from the very beginning, thats why i refused to fight for Indo and have been spending massive amounts of money fighting against the eUSAF and Indo in retaining those regions.
I agree with this article 100%
good article, voted
Regaining economic bonuses is easy. We literally have to take 2 provinces from Canada, and 3 provinces from Mexico. Regaining Sovereignty is another matter entirely. PTO's destroy communities, decimate treasuries, and demolish countries. The people here now cannot be dealt with via diplomacy, nor can they be asked to leave. A PTO would hurt this country far more than 60/60 for a month. We've survived it before, and we can survive it again.
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civil: this is just foolish. Of course it is child's play to take a few regions from canada and Mexico. It is obvious that America will only go a few weeks or a month without its 100/100 bonus. It is obvious to you, to me, and to all the people who will NOT leave because it is so obvious. They can survive it as well as everyone else. The people here cannot be dealt with via foolishness. If you want to reorient by invading canada why not just say so.
who you are CA to tell that people cannot be dealt with democracy ,if majority doesn't vote for you then you are not in position to say what this people really need that's only your personal opinion.You are simply a manipulator and small group of people around you😁 resources are completely different subject just bad excuse you give to blame whole enations for pto.you got to speak with solid proves when you talk about that particular subject!
God, I miss Glove.
This is just embarrassing. There are valid arguments to be made against this strategy, but none are presented here.
If you haters have a better idea about how to take back control of our country, I'd love to hear it.
well, Vladimir - as it seems USA should have enough fiscal means as gov is ready to let US people suffer while they will compensate for State military units only. Why not to pay for these leaving "parasites" and vote sellers instead AND keep the bonuses? It will not be cheap by this way CP currently has envisioned, perhaps it would be cheaper to offer every leaving person some sum? AND afterward make sure USA has ENOUGH blockers avail. Otherwise its just wasted effort, no matter which one...
Civil Anarchy, what PTO-ers? Name them, please.
You USA gotta loose regions if you dont want to get more PTOers inside your gabinet or your country.
If you honestly think we have a strong economy right now, I have a bridge to the moon that I'd like to sell you.
@Semper5: The ones that gave sensitive Private Congress data to non-allied CPs. Also basically the entirety of the RLC approvals for the past 4 months. If you're denying there's a presence at all, then you've been blind for the past half year.
@oliver: No, not everyone knows it. A large amount of the people who sell their vote and who are PTO'ers don't speak English, don't know what is going on with the government, and will leave once their bonuses are gone.
rolling on the floor atm.
Their is a way to stop CA and future potus from giving back the lands we fight for and I for one will pursue this path
So who is our problem Civil, people who came to eUSA because of bonuses or those who came here because of PTO attempt? Make your mind because you sounds confused a little bit. And while your "make us miserable so nobody wants us" philosophy might drive away people who became eAmericans because of bonuses, it certainly won't drive away possible PTO'ers. Simply because PTO'ers are not here because of bonuses, so giving up regions doesn't make difference to them but will do harm to eUSA.
There is a huge different between "pro 100/100 bonuses" eAmericans and PTO'ers. People who became eAmericans because of bonuses are, generally, benevolent citizens. They don't want to harm eUSA. Actually, your "give up regions and bonuses" politics will do harm eUSA more then them..
1. look CA in your article "do or die" you mention certain parasite countries including eCroatia.I will not play the role of private lawyer for other countries ,but if you don't have proofs you are wrong and you insulted all eCroatian players who fight currently for eUS.I really don't know if there are 1/2 cro congressmen who accepted cs-s without ies procedure but at least you got to have proof of dozen players that you can speak about eCroatia's secret agenda to pto America😁 if you are ...
serious player ,you owe us apology ; )
2.game mechanics allowed you to become POTUS ,your right is to propose your vision how things should unfold in eUS ,you can try to loose resources ,if it was only about that i would't say a word against you,i know very well where is my place as a soldier!at the end public opinion will judge you if you were right or wrong about it,yuo will be fully responsible about it & i will follow all given orders !
as a 3rd point, i support 100% drastic measures against pto-ers of eUS and people who sell cs (including rl Americans too😁),no mercy to them !! but same rules got to be applied to all pto-ers doesn't matter from where they come ,no fake propaganda if you are sincere about that !