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So the national forum vote is valid because it went your way, but leaving NaN ingame is not because it did not? Why bother voting at all? Why not just issue more decrees to enforce your will?

Both decisions has been made on forums. I don't create secret PMs with congressmen that can support me and let them vote, like our old successful President. Clear enough?

Not clear at all. If you did contact all congress members and include them then you would have had more vote on forums surely?

The forum vote included citizens. So we have 23/240 active citizens voting on a forum that is in dispute That is less than 10% of people who regularly vote in elections. No cause for concern there at all. You are a champion at selective democracy. I do not actually give a damn which way the vote goes, but I find it very disconcerting that fewer citizens voted than what we have Congress Members. This has to be addressed ingame so that we have an effective vehicle for communication to ALL our citizens.

The NaN vote failed. As per South African law its invalid. Suck it up and call another and another and another until you get your way.

You vote to leave NaN on the disputed forum was 7:2 to leave. That is 9/30 Congress Members. Selective democracy in action again.

"Selective democracy" is valid concern only If I let only few congressmen vote like you. There is a open available poll for everyone. I also let them know about it in-game. If they don't participate it, that's not my problem.

You are mad because our community wanted to continue with old forums, not the one you like.

You have totally missed the point again. Let me simplify it for you - when less people vote on something than the average number of multies in the game per player then there is a problem. Continuing to call for votes in a medium that has decreasing attendance is fooling yourself. Every vote will keep being random until you understand that communication is not happening in forums.

Our democracy is bleeding. Being pigheaded will only backfire. Face this ussue directly and kick Congress butt to make them help you.

What do you say about the accounts and votes that you control on forums? (For example : Naroist - Crueldestiny - Neptun Steel etc. )

Your MOFA sucks!!!

That's why I removed him and appointed new one.

I am talking about the new MOFA.

Oh, TMW u're so sweet...

Finally an active MoFA. It's been what? a Year? Our MoFAs usually do nothing of notable value. GL AFK!

I'll change it Wil. Feel fresh about my actions 🙂

The irony, an active MoFA called AFK.

Leon you are a disgrace, your two faced behavior is bull. Tell the truth for once in your miserable life. Stop pretending to respect a group in private messages, when you don't respect the NaN at all. You don't respect the whole of congress now that you don't "Control" how it votes.

Oh and this time, I am personally attacking you, because you have ZERO honor.

The vote about the forum should have been done via Google docs as Miya suggested. I would also say you kind of jumped the gun with the NaN situation. You really should have waited until it was official in game and, instead, just informed NaN there was a discussion about eSA leaving rather than just saying we left only for the in game vote to not pass. Something like that really doesn't inspire confidence in our allies.

Oh, and I should point out you are saying we left NaN, yet our military orders have been to still fight for them. We're sending very conflicting messages here.

I applause your numerous articles and your wants of communication. While it is true that you acted too rashly in the NaN affair (that congress vote is in no real country valid, why would it be here?) I appreciate your attepts to communicate with the populace.

You mean those votes Leona ? http://prntscr.com/1gkozi

Nah these ones.
http://i.imgur.com/eijx4AT.jpg
original copy FTW

I didn't post it because of the privacy laws.

Jarraklainen and I used same computer to login forums. Like LiquidIce and Nickerball. Wacky and Rex. Grim and Vanessa. etc etc. So what?

If you check, you can see all members of Desert Lions have been shared the same IP at least for once. Not only me and Jarrak.

Publish my IP address on the internet, i mean, why not right?

Pathetic.

Leon do you want me to publish the other pictures?

What about these, retarded leona and the hencock? http://prntscr.com/1hnbid --- http://prntscr.com/1hnbmv

lol

Alliance
We left NaN. The law could not approved because of few rogue congressmen.

Please consider my comments as a friend here ...

Leaving any ALLIANCE like that will leave a very negative image of eSouth Africa on other eCountries/Alliance, they won't consider eSouth Africa as loyal ally of friend. There is always a diplomatic & proper solution for every issue. It is been very clear that there is some political disturbance in eSouth Africa, as a leader you should focus on such things first rather than leaving some ALLIANCE.

Congress is something of every nation which clearly reflect the majority you cannot call it "ROUGE", as a founder member of NAN you should be more sure about any action regarding NAN. After the failure of that LAW of leaving NAN simply put you in a very awkward position now, and not only that it also damage the honor of eSouth Africa in some.

I understand what you say in-game joint thread of NAN, and believe me there are 100 ways to solve those issues leaving NAN wont help in any of it.

We can talk and resolve those issues if you want to.

Best Wishes
Regards
St0L3n1
Consul Member (NaN)

Stolen,

You are not the one who can state what CP of South Africa should focus on.

Thank you.

I said consider my comments as a suggestion

http://prntscr.com/1hnbmv --- http://prntscr.com/1hnbid Bunlar nolucak zekasiz leon ?

I don't think any country in the entire eWorld trusts eSA now. Not Brazil, not Russia, not NaN, and definitely not Argentina/Uruguay that are only involved because they saw some chance to profit.

True...

He doesn't have the ability to take criticism mate. I'm sure he didn't even read your suggestion.

Wow, look at this... Ej said something that I agree with! Stol3n, Leon does not accept suggestions... Only if they suit his agenda.

NaN is a crumbling waste of time. Goodbye!

"Attacking someone without knowladge is the easy way."

Kinda made yourself look stupid right there. "knowledge"

however, your dumbass-ship, you would do well to heed your own words.

Thanks for the update. Keep up the hard work

Thank you for keeping us updated Leon, you are one brave man to take all the criticism you've taken so far.

If we have no alliances we will soon not have a country to govern. How old is the president? 16?