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Time for war!!! o7

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WAR! o7

eUK owes you once again a Debt of honour 🙂

Hail eNetherland
Hail Friendships

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Norway already is in my eFamily.. However bringing back those lands under our banner would be interesting.. The moment we decide sides is now, a permanent goodbye to old friends. I've got double feelings about this, but let's go for it!

Hail puppethood o7

lol

you try to have people oppose this so your serbian masters might get their 10/10 bonuses again.. puppetmaxxx, good night

yeah Norway and Asgard have the hand of Serbia stuck right up their arse!

^I can't believe someone from the eUK just made that statement...

Must irk a bit that that "hand of Serbia" [rea😛 Damage] is on the other side now 😛

Nah, it was and still is Polands hand stuck up ours...

We should all help UK. Good decision eNL... o7

This move has the Trannsvaal seal of approval!

We the eNetherlands Ministry of Foreign Affairs & Governemnt of NoTie112 will defend Netherlands and its Allies in this upcoming war with success!

BG approved

All that we need : )

Swab the decks and ready the guns me hearties, we be hearing the lamentation of Norwegian women soon!

I wonder what DO PG will have....

Im guessing Anti-Netherlands/UK

I dunno, while we should help our friends i do not think that until we officially joined a alliance we shouldn't go as far as helping new friends (old enemies) against our old friends, and until this action not our enemies. And it being this sudden with out so much as a heads up or giving people any chance to have a say in it is wrong, Im not gone argue a government doesn't have the right to do it like this cause of strategical reasons, but when it involves a nation that has been a long time friend, and a good neighbor and this is no way to treating them, giving them a bitch slap from behind as to Dutch people who regard or regarded Norway as a good friend this decision that has been made in a backroom might not exactly leave them very happy either.

You lose some friends, you gain some friends. Nothing last forever.....but I do understand that PG/GPN loyalties are not that way. But what are you guys going to do keep setting DO's against the MoD orders

I tough i wrote very clearly, and as such should be clear that i wrote I not GNP or PG. I have nothing to do with GNP as for PG yea PG is my home but far as i am aware PG is a pro-NL Mu always has been.

"But what are you guys going to do keep setting DO's against the MoD orders"
Sure let me respond to this accusation yet again instead of ignoring your repeating BS. And unlike you i can stick fine to truths and facts, so im not gone BS now and say PG has 100% always done the right DO. It has happened a few times in the long time i have been with PG that DO's where set wrong, and people with in PG clearly voiced it was so and they usually got changed right after.
You how ever make it sound that PG does nothing but set orders against MoD orders let alone following them, which is basically what happens almost always. And here is a other fact before i joint PG or ICA-NL as it was back than was cause state MU kept none stop going against MoD orders and when i spoke up i got insulted and threaten by the captains and commanders at the time and when i toke it up with someone in Gov i basically got told if i didn't like it to resign. Yet you don't hear me bitch and moan about what has happened. I also heard that DO in current state MU while back weren't actively set to MoD orders dunno when exactly anymore don't care cause it happens captains so now and than mess up either cause they are really new players, or cause new to being captain.

As far as DO settings go in PG i have nothing to do with those, and i think i personally but also enough other members in PG to eNL beyond any question or doubt so why do you and some others feel the need with out any real base to attack our home. If this has anything to do with M. de Ruyter than it is just petty, cause what ever he might have done wrong in your eye's PG is and always has been a asset to eNL going after a MU cause you have a issue with its founder despite that MU having done all this good is just sad.

This has not got anything to do with MdR at all, there is a thin line between PG and GPN. Do explain to me why there where people leaving PG because of the DO set against the MoD their orders. Just saying....its for you to work it out.
If you and or PG thinks that is the right thing to do so be it. This is my opinion and you do know that opinions are like arseholes, everyone has got one. 😉

Fosite, I don't think Schoft was trying to make any accusations towards you personally. He was just pointing that it is true that PG does not always set orders with MoD orders.

Have you even read it all? As i stated that has happened a few times in all the time i been with this MU. Last being that major incident with eBE and some members including me asked to get it set to a other DO and it got done, by that definition its probably true for any MU to have orders set against MoD at one point or a other, state MU certainly has yet noone seems to bring that up or any other, and wit the comment above
"Schoft I wonder what DO PG will have.... ReplyVote 1 Day 2,342, 18:04 "
It is pretty clear he is bad mouthing PG so yea he might not have it meant to me personally or to Trannsvaal or to Xibbard or to Walhallah yet all of us call PG home, well oke not Walhallah atm cause hes duty as MoD calls him to be in the State MU. And to any fellow PG member i have not named that sees PG as their home, sorry but there are simply to many names i just garbed 3 names i know are well respected with in eNL.

So sorry but i don't really care if this wasn't meant as personal but PG is my home and this BS accusations that make it seem like PG is some rogue MU that doesn't support eNL i do take personal.
Ffs the fact there are so many well respected eNL civilians are in PG including MoD themselves would already proof that if DO's are set against MoD orders it is nothing more than very minor issue, if it was as suggested "going to do keep setting DO's against the MoD orders" Than that would imply by default all this people that stick with PG aren't loyal to eNL wouldn't it or at very least don't care much for eNL yet most off us know that's horse shit, just as much as that baseless and low blow attack on PG.

And while writing all of this Schoft basically just proved my point, whit hes post above. basicly confirming pretty much what i wrote but sure nothing personally, being called disloyal to eNL.
Schoft if can can actually provide proof of PG having a real issue with going against MoD orders please show them otherwise stop with the mud slinging and the "oh so cleverly hidden" insinuations.

If it wasnt true, there would not be an essay in reply.

That reply is really telling.

You're a straightforward guy, so I'll give you a straight forward answer. We need to prove ourselves to our allies, we need war to promote activity, we need war to promote fun, and we must have a goal for our nation to grow and become stronger. It really is that simple. A war with Norway will provide these crucial aspect to grow our country. I hope to see you on the battlefield with us.

I fully agree with that, and i am in no way against a war with former friends, my point is just that the way this was done to me feel's not right a good friend and neighbor, we should have shown a bit more respect.

It's a messy business regardless, but we are doing our best to set up a respectful enemies situation.

Backroom? The 'greatest' ally of Norway and your MU leader is by far the damn king of backroom shady deals. This is very publicly done and in the best interest of all NL citizens.

Please point me to where it got talked about or even hinted at to the public that we might/will go to war with the eNorway. And as for well he did it to... that is a child's argument, someone else did so before does NOT make it any less wrong now.

So why didn't you complain about him then? And as I said, this is not some backroom deal or whatever.

Firsts off i have made complains when MdR did stuff i disagreed with, but wasn't needed to make so many reply's cause i useally didnt get much response on them, cause other people where already pointing it out as well.
Unlike you how ever im not attacking one person and defending the next, wrong is wrong. And i said decision made in backroom, i did not say backroom deal, those are 2 totally different things. I am not accusing Notie of having sold out or be pressured to make this decision. I am simply pointing out this decision was made with out any kind of warning to the majority of eNL citizens far as i can tell only gov and senate members where aware, as i assume this was talked about only in private section of the forum, and voted on in private.

"This has not got anything to do with MdR at all, there is a thin line between PG and GPN." Contradictio in terminis that says it all....

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et tu, daniel? et tu?

et tu Brutus!

I love you and respect you eNL but one does not mess with Asgard...

We'll see you on the battlefield ~_^

I'll fight you, brother!

Hail the Netherlands!
Hail the United Kingdom! o7

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Interesting situation as the Commander of PG is currently living in Norway. Lets see if PG is really loyal to eNL.

What does it matter if we got the Dragoons 😉

And the Alpha Unit!

And my axe

Should of thought of that before your CP went around making back room promises this term that he would NOT invade Norway. Foreign affairs at its best.

These are not plans to invade Norway, but to protect the UK as far as I am informed.

Shouldn't the United Kingdom have declared war on Germany in 1939 because they promised 'peace in our time' just a few months earlier?
a.k.a circumstances have change😛

Last time I was in contact with eNorway, my government was accused of preparing a war of aggression on Norway (based on nothing but personal conflicts between some of our citizens). That was not my intention at all, and hey; it didn't happen solely on that argumentation.

But now that Norway has attacked the United Kingdom none of these so-called back room promises hold any value.