Here are logs from the CP debate yesterday. It lasted a few hours so they are long. Enjoy 🙂
22:40:10: Why are you choosing to run this month and what do you hope to accomplish in these elections?
22:41:47: Well I'd start with simple answers, I think that I'll have enough time to run eIreland this month more than any other. What I hope to acomplish, well this one is hard tbh, coz I have alot of thoughts firstly with this ongoing war with Slovenia and Austria
22:42:16: Would like to continue one with Austria, and Slovenia could hardly harm us then
22:42:43: with holding all of these regions we got our daily income much bigger, which implies to our wealth very well
22:43:46: thats why I've chosen Don_Croata to be a MoF this month, coz I think he'll improve activity of this ministry, which will apply on our wealth once again.
22:44:25: We do have alot of money. Much more than any other small country (which we are) and I can proudly say that we have bigger stash of money than few much bigger countries.
22:45:07: What I wanted to say is that currently we're not reaching our max. potential (COs, supplies)
22:45:12: we could do it better.
22:45:14: Thats for now
22:45:37: To answer the first part of the question. I choose to run because I think competition leads to a stronger nation and no one else was going to seriously challenge Don G 🙂
. I also have a lot of time this month, furthermore I saw that some within our nation are worried about certain individuals and groups and I think that I'm suited to solving those issues.
22:47:17: For what I would like to achieve this month if elected. I would like to keep us in centeral europe if that is what our allies need from us, but I would not put much more money into it. I would try to bring in new faces into government (mine included) to replace those that are worn out. I would like to solve some social cleavages
22:48:31: I agree with DonGomar that we are not reaching our max potential with CO and supplies and I would like to make a group to look at supplies and possibility of national communes, and possibly further promotion of a near one MU system (which some in the USA are currently pushing for now)
22:48:56: (alright so just to make it clear when a candidate has completed their answer, let's just add "+++" to the end of our last comments when we're done speaking... continue if you'd like Daniel)
22:49:18: Coleman: can I touch upon what DonGomar said about MoF ?
22:49:39: We'll cover that in a question that's coming up I think
22:49:47: okay
22:49:53: well I will stop here then 🙂
22:50:03: the next question actually 😛
22:50:20: Ok so since Don went first last time, we'll have Daniel start with this one
22:51:21: For many many month we've had a group of veterans in our government, who have had a lot of experience in their fields. With many of them becoming less active, or taking a break
22:51:46: What considerations have you made for cabinet positions? How will you be using your cabinet if you are elected?
22:52:30: and here if you guys want we can have some back and forth about each others appointments.
22:52:46: +++
22:53:31: Mininuns miaus
22:54:20: I have noticed then and have used this to judge my cabinet decisions (although they are still flexible). I'm going to (hopefully) have Bhane and Ian, Seanan, and Sweet Drinker as advisers since they are veterns and know how to get things done
22:55:46: I will also keep Punistick on as MoD since I would not want to switch it up with a war going on and he is doing a good job. I do want to get another view into government though and would like to bring in Mininuns to the MoFA department
22:57:26: I think it is a good idea though to keep Appleman as MoF and in control of the orgs and money. I'm still open for vice MoF though. Yet I do not think Don C should be MoF, because if I'm not mistaken he wrote how he was not very adapt at the financial maneuverings required for the position, if I'm wrong speak up DOn C 🙂
22:58:47: o/
22:59:20: I will be using my appointments to do the tasks assigned to them, but I will use the advisers (and cabinet) to bounce ideas off and to make sure nothing to extreme is done without proper deliberation.
22:59:25: o/ CuppyCakeYums
22:59:31: I was administrating several orgs with profit of 30% per month..
22:59:33: o/ DanielPlainview
22:59:34: pretty sure I could handle it 😛
23:00:02: okay, well that is good then lol,
23:00:49: I still dont see it necessary to change up with Appleman, unless you are making more money then he is with the orgs 😉
, or you could become v MoF
23:02:12: +++
23:02:27: 😮
23:02:30: AppleMan is great MoF..he keeps orgs secure and I can't say a word against him to be honest. Love that guy. Won't make much difference who's MoF
23:02:33: vMoF \o/
23:02:33: ++++
23:03:05: Ok, so Don Gomar, if you could answer the same question, and feel free to respond to what Daniel has brought up or ask your own questions about his planned cabinet.
23:03:55: Well Firstly I'd like to ask DanielPlainview about his cabinet, haven't seen anywhere who's part of it. So if you'd like to write it here ?
23:04:28: 😮
2 dons, a fight will be happening soon
23:05:05: Well, I was looking for active citizens of Ireland who can make imapct to our little communitiy, I found it in few new names in few ministries
23:05:54: DonGomar: I have the people I want in it set out. I'm still hoping to bring in new people though and was going to wait until tomorrow to release it.
23:06:38: Lets start with Don_Croata, why I picked him? huh we're long time friends, and I'm sure he will make awesome job as MoF, he has a knowledge needed for that job. He has time to be active one (More than Apple did) and with activity we can make more surely.
23:06:50: DomagojvuII: is also new name in my Cabinet
23:07:15: he's active, and I have full faith in his abillities as MoC,
23:07:32: he will bring MoC back on feet, I'm sure in that
23:07:43: +++
23:08:26: Ok awesome
23:08:33: so I two things
23:08:58: First Don wanted to say something, and then after I recieved a question related to cabinets that I wanted to ask Daniel before we move on.
23:09:03: So Don, if you'd like to go ahead.
23:09:09: Alright..so..
23:09:09: Don Croata*
23:09:17: hallo
23:09:28: guys guess wat
23:09:38: im here to b annoying since I am bored
23:09:46: No matter which one of you two wins..the most important thing is not to fuck up things. So basicly, just have the idea of eIreland as fighting Irish as we really are. Fun and loyalty, two most important things you have to remember
23:10:20: I'll be personally voting Don Gomar, I know him better and I'm sure he'd do great job, I know DP will do great job too, I'm just more sure of DG...slight difference..
23:10:53: But...we must maintain our respect, we earned a lot in the last two months. Have your allies on mind, wish only good for eIreland, don't be fucking politicians and we'll be great..
23:11:09: Unity of eIrish will only be won through fighting common enemy
23:11:14: so..good luck both of you
23:11:21: Mininuns thinks Don_Croata is a politician :miaulol:
23:11:24: o7
23:11:48: Ok so did either of the candidates want to respond to that, or should we move on to my question for Daniel?
23:12:34: DonGomar: you thinkk the MoC needs to be put back on its feet, I will try to pass over this insult lol 😛
23:12:45: Well I'm sure I can do that job, if otherwise, wouldn't even be a candidate this month.
23:13:00: DanielPlainview: well take look on past few months. That was my point 😉
23:13:58: Ok so Daniel someone was curious about the reasons behind one of your appointments.
23:14:40: Same as DonG. Don_Croata I know the importance of our allies and I'm loyal to this country. Yet I find it hard to imagine not takeing on some form of politicians attributes while being CP 😛
23:14:58: okay Coleman
23:15:21: They wanted to know why Daniel decided to place a former MoFA of Spain in Ireland... is it for some diplomatic reason, are they just friends, or why?
23:15:57: Politics is for pussies
23:16:28: Well firstly, I dont want people to think that the feline will have free reign and make himself a new Foreign Relations empire based off Spanish interests
23:17:35: I want him in the department to give a different view of the world then the usual members who make up the MoFA. For the past 2-3 months I have only seen the same people in that positions and I think Mininuns would help me see things from different perspectives.
23:17:49: Huh?
23:18:18: I've been working in several countries and organisations, I do not represent any danger to what Irish interests refers to just because of my nationality
23:18:43: I know...
23:18:45: I'll be there to help 😁
23:18:50: okey :3
23:19:20: thanks for the support
23:19:29: yes my first sentence was kind of a joke, fyi people lol
23:19:38: jajaja it's okey ;P
23:19:51: +++
23:20:07: Mininuns: is cool.
23:20:22: ^
23:20:23: He once fucked up Ireland, but now is nice 😛
23:20:27: soo
23:2😇
4: lol
23:2😇
6: can I talk now?
23:20:44: I think that can be said about most old citizens here Don_Croata 😛
23:20:44: or are u guys debating
23:20:47: Mininuns thanks Don_Croata, DonGomar and DanielPlainview
23:21:03: DanielPlainview: nope it can't
23:21:10: only for few..
23:21:12: its ok to talk david, but just we don't want to interrupt the candidates
23:21:24: tbh, this seems more like a friend meeting rather than some kind of debate xD
23:21:31: +++ (sorry)
23:21:49: thats cause Irelad is all friends 😃
23:21:51: haha
23:21:54: Ireland*
23:22:02: ok though, Don you can start for the next question
23:22:43: The question of how to set up Dáil and how to determine its roll in decision making has really stood out as an issue in recent months – and one where there are really no foundations for a matter of fact answer. How do you plan to structure and facilitate Dáil discussions and what roll will they play in our government under your tenure?
23:24:44: mibbit lost connection ;_;
23:24:53: Mininuns : guys, did you know im cooperating with a RL Irish NGO called Bothar? :3
23:25:24: Coleman: was there a question or what, coz my connection broke
23:25:28: Coleman: ok though, Don you can start for the next question
23:25:28: [7:28pm] Coleman: The question of how to set up Dáil and how to determine its roll in decision making has really stood out as an issue in recent months – and one where there are really no foundations for a matter of fact answer. How do you plan to structure and facilitate Dáil discussions and what roll will they play in our government under your tenure?
23:26:22: Dail is pretty much useless...it should be only for voting laws tbh
23:26:31: Oh...the other Don 😛
23:26:41: 😑
haha
23:27:43: Coleman, your nick in Spanish means: School-man, which would mean in Spanglish: Schoolman
23:27:51: well, how to set up Dail is hard to answer. Seanan will make great job as CC, but there is no real authority he can do anything real. Dail is kinda important in these game mechanics, where you can't decide nothing without them. I'll make sure to cooperate with them on the best way it can be.
23:28:45: We tried with forum,but it wasn't successful, so I'll keep with ingame threads which CC will organize.
23:29:45: What I wanted to say is that I'd like to discuss any important law with them, coz members of Dail are only one who can decide a real thing with giving their vote.
23:29:53: +++
23:30:04: Congress has been rather meek, from my experience, and I wish it was not so. It seems most wish to remain debating in game and not on forums sadly. I would like to bring decisions to congress, and even if they cant formally vote on them at least it would give something to debate about and possibly bring new viewpoint and ideas to the plans of the administrato
23:30:42: I will continue on with Seanan as CC though with ingame pm groups.
23:31:10: Mininuns thinks he once said something related to the creation of a forum in an ingame message ;p
23:31:49: AN active congress usually correlates to an engaged population and I hope to encourage debate within these groups
23:32:02: Don_Croata thinks only Government should have executive rights and congress should only vote yes/no according to instructions (or bring some ideas)
23:33:05: Mininuns thinks Don_Croata is a dictatorHUEHEU
23:33:18: well, we already talked about it Don_Croata xDDD
23:33:32: ❤
23:34:04: s2
23:34:12: I've got a question
23:34:15: +++
23:34:15: Who likes popcorns?
23:34:29: popcornsssssssssssssssss
23:34:32: awwwww
23:34:37: what about whiskas?
23:34:49: CrOmega Abu obviously xD
23:34:59: jaja
23:35:03: you cunts can't even have proper fight...congratulations s2
23:35:12: Coleman: more questions?
23:35:20: Aye
23:35:30: ye, this was just a talk ;p
23:35:40: in Spain we would be killing each other
23:35:57: Alright
23:36:05: starting with Daniel
23:37:43: Right now we have a foothold since our AS in Slovenian occupied Austria. What are our plans concerning this situation, and what will be the technical strategic factors that will determine our success or failure?
23:39:14: Well my plans our to continue fighting against Slovenia and to support our allies in the region, i.e. Chile
23:40:00: However I'm a little befuddled at some of Sirus members in the region
23:40:54: but since we are in the region I see no reason why we should not continue on with the campaign in central Europe, and as long as Chile stays there I would hope to keep Ireland there to.
23:42:49: For technical strategic factors, I would need to get into the CP seat first before I could comment with certainty on it in more detail
23:43:17: Main thing is to keep Irish population enjoying the war
23:43:26: +++
23:43:37: 4,1(6,1AURORA4,1) KILL 'EM ALL http://www.erepublik.com/en/military/battlefield/50476 FIGHT FOR IRELAND! FINISH THIS MANDATE PERFECTLY!
23:43:55: Alright DGomar
23:45:58: Well my plans are to continue with war with Slovenia, and try to gain all of Austrian regions as first. That will help us much more, and then we could continue with our war with Slovenia, this war is great thing to Ireland
23:46:19: we have bigger tax income, our population rises everyday
23:47:39: Hopefully we will keep in CE as long as our allies will be here, and will help us stay there. From there we can always do something that is so useful to our allies. That was the main reason of AS right?
23:48:32: but MoD has full rights to think otherwise, and thats why he's Minister of Defence not me (this term 😛
)
23:48:41: +++
23:49:26: Alright
23:49:56: I just got a question
23:50:26: Will we have ministry of silence with Kurgan after elections, and ofc ministry of enlightenment with Kurgan?
23:50:41: DonGomar you can start
23:50:51: jajajaja
23:51:12: I asked him to be my Spiritual Leader- He rejected, so its No.
23:51:52: +++
23:52:41: I think I will just maintain my policy of not registering them on my radar (except for when I have a chance to win 100 tanks off of them, thanks RtK for that lol )
23:52:57: oh and Don_Croata , this is why I thought that about your MoF skills http://i.imgur.com/GIz7KUf.png
23:53:16: in your cabinet article 2 months ago eh 😒
23:53:46: Let's keep the discussion between the candidates
23:54:12: +++
23:54:15: Just saw Swedish MoD shouting to fight for Slovenia...
23:54:20: We'll wipe them soon.
23:54:27: Ok so
23:54:35: There was a question about Foreign Affairs.
23:55:03: With us being in this new Aurora alliance, we now have to weigh the interests of Ireland against the interests of our alliance.
23:55:51: What will be the logistics of military decision making, and do you know what to expect as a prospective Cp?
23:55:58: Daniel you can start off
23:56:46: Well we are lucky (or unlucky 😮
) in our geo political situation since we are surrounded by friends, in our home regions
23:57:06: so I think it is fairly easy for us to give to our allies
23:58:59: We gained and our allies gained from the AS and we could not have got this far without them. So if anything our interests are being served more then is necessarily warranted for our population size in Aurura. So I dont think weighing our interests to that of the other alliance members should be our concern, our concern should be how do we keep such a
favourable position within the alliance that is weighed in our favour
00:00:27: I have been in Aurora HQ channel a bit and think I have a little idea of what to expect as CP
00:00:53: within that alliance. Basically we just call on Chile for Help 😃
00:00:56: +++
00:01:39: Aurora is...beautiful.
00:02:06: they are invasors with greedy intentions
00:02:21: and someday they are gonna fall into darkness
00:03:29: Well firstly MoFA will do their job to maintain our great relationship with our allies, especially to those that are not part of new Alliance (Canada)
00:03:42: stacks of MPP's will be just within aurora probably
00:03:50: it will depend
00:04:11: Ah debating are we? wheres Boru when you need him 😛
00:04:59: about our position in war/politics, but I'd let MoFA do their job, and I'm sure we'll be a powerful and rightful country again.
00:05:43: Nogin s2
00:05:45: ola
00:05:47: Couldn't write more as DanielPlainview wrote everything that was needed to say. These were just "add-ons"
00:05:47: Miau
00:05:48: +++
00:06:11: ok
00:06:29: And there was a question
00:06:34: Starting with DonGomar
00:06:40: .k Nogin_the_nog
00:06:46: (she asked me)
00:07:02: oh no
00:07:03: Aye 'cause you get a right slap in the face 😛
00:07:08: Nogin: /ghost nick pw
00:07:08: 😛
00:07:17: oh no
00:07:52: What roles in the community have you had that qualify you for the job of Cp, and what specific skill have you gained from these positions that you believe will be applicable?
00:08:28: huh, too many of them lol
00:09:06: Been too many times part of MoD team in eIre, even twice in eCro, 15+ times Daíl member
00:09:12: 2 times CP candidate
00:09:19: never won,
00:09:59: commander of Boot Camp, once in MoF team, two times IFP PP, few times before EA PP and IPP PP
00:10:21: i think thats all about my experience in politics
00:12:04: What I gained, well I gained alot of friends over world, that is one thing that is very useful. But I learned to be a good minister, (as I'm not good writer, I have skill to do that job)(atleast my opinion lol)
00:12:30: really dunno what could I write on this question lol.
00:12:32: +++
00:14:50: well I dont have quite the rap sheet as DonGomar but I have read a lot about this came and its people in it and have learned a lot in this sort time in this country. I have owned my own MU, Iam PP of EA, I'm 3 times congressman, and I'v been MoC for this term
00:15:50: I have gained knowledge of most of the active members within eIreland, how things are run in this country, and what needs to be done to maintain its momentum and what problems should be tackled sooner rather then latter
00:17:18: I have also been on Immigration Committee, and have been in our alliances HQ IRC chat and have seen a bit of how it works, while keeping up to date with Foreign Affairs
00:18:05: DonGomar wants to add that I'm in Immigration Committee 2 months in a row (sorry for interrupting you)
00:18:25: Mininuns thinks this is getting interesting 😃
00:19:12: I know I may come off as a little under qualified, especially when compared to DonGomar , but I feel I have grasped this game and learned the lay of the land of eIrelands society to be able to make a great CP. Now there might be some rough patches that could occur since it would be my first time as CP, but it would at least give the nation something to talks
00:19:32: about, and is that not why we are all here, to be entertained 😃
00:19:50: +++
00:20:19: Alright
00:2😇
8: So for this next one, let's try instead of one person going first or second
00:20:47: just answer the question and discuss with each other
00:20:50: in your own time
00:20:52: so
00:21:23: What are your views on immigration and the immigration committee? Should changes be made?
00:22:28: My opinion is that Immigration and its committee works perfectly, there always can do something new, but my opinion is that we don't have to change anything about MoI.
00:22:51: I think we should get back to the original version of it
00:22:56: As member of its committee I can say that we're working any CS that applied through form.
00:22:58: with MoFA included in the chat
00:23:38: well MoFA could be useful, but I'd rather use MoFA in some other ways
00:24:06: btw if I win, you'll be MoFA in MoI 😛
00:24:34: ya but they could be at least in it to notify the ImmCom if there is a big bad guy comeing there way
00:25:10: but it does seem to be working good, and I like how many people have been applying, we are on track to process another 3 immigrants ontop of the other 3 yesterday 🙂
00:25:57: but I feel like there should be a better balance, since 1 person can feel like they are always being out voted by the other two if they are from different political or MU back grounds 😒
00:26:11: thats all I got to say on the matter for now though...
00:26:39: well if you're part of Immigration committee it shouldn't be a metter of political or MU backgrounds...
00:26:39: hello guys 🙂
00:26:47: ThanatosTM[afk]: \o
00:27:06: so should the ImmComm be comprised of non political people
00:27:10: And this is just my own curiosity, but what would be the candidates views on how to deal with rogue immigration passes, or how to decide when there's a rogue proposal of Dail action for that matter
00:27:12: if such people can be found ?"
00:27:32: no thats not what I meant
00:27:43: what I meant is that Ireland must always be on first place
00:27:53: okay, yes yes
00:28:19: but this may not always be the case. So I guess it is up to the CP to make sure it stays an Ireland first mentality
00:29:01: +++
00:29:07: +++
00:29:24: Coleman: sorry missed your question lol
00:29:41: Lol I'll repeat it since I sort of interjected
00:29:43: same ha
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0:18: What are the candidates views on how to deal with rogue immigration passes, or proposals. And how do we decide what is a rogue action in Dail? Who decides?
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5: there can't be much done when rogue cs is gave away, what we could do is to make some progress with all of PPs and to put them last in next Dail elections.
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1:31: How to decide which is rogue and which is not, well if you let in someone without immigration approval it is rogue, who decides? at my point CC should decide that.
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1:40: +++
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