Thoughts about polish-hungarian friendship, two days after March 23.
Day 2,682, 11:30
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by Murlockij
On the Hungarian-Polish friendship
Dear Polish Players!
The time of eRepublik is nigh and it seems the game we play will not last long.
Let me introduce myself first: my name is Murlockij, a tank and mercenary ingame. Outside of the eWorld, I live in a city of the countryside, my profession is associated with books. If you take a look at my profile you can see that I'm playing this game for almost six years.
From the very begining I had my own ambitions and goals to fulfill, some of them were completed, others not. I beared your national colours for 3 years since I was an ePolish citizen. To be honest, I was mostly motivated by the economic advantages you were able to provide me, however I also took my part well in fighting for polish purposes.
Nevertheless, I had an additional reason for settling in your country: Namely the traditional, or to say the historic friendship between us.
Being a kid I was thrilled of adventureous historical novels, sci-fi and fantasy books. The Trilogy of Henryk Sienkievicz: With Fire and Sword, The Deluge, Fire in the Steppe were enlisted to the top of my favourites list.
At the time of my childhood, video and television weren't enjoyed as big popularity, especially not by a daydreamer bookworm-boy who I was; at that time, books got a lot more devotion and higher reputation than nowadays. Later in the years of my adolescence, I was deeply inspired by the films of Andrej Wajda. As far as I remember, I wasn't the only one.
In the school I learned much about you as our history and fate merged, by common kings and queens. I must confess I was thinking very highly of that. How interesting is, that we have two different nations, and despite of the lack of common origin, the language-diversity and the fact, that we came from different lands, our heroes of the past could find a common ground many, many years ago. Mongols, turks, russians encountered by booth, as well as revolutions, fightings for independence and wars.
A true turmoil!
As if you could touch a thread, linking our fate and making a double spiral eventually by the raging storms of history.
So I've read much about you as a kid, and I liked what read. I supposed, there have to be polish boys as well who feel the same sympathy for us, just as I did for them. Now, you see what a naive boy I was...
The reason why eRepublik got my awareness is beacuse it provided the chance of playing with national communities. From that perspective, the game functioned well for years. It was really a fun to wish Happy Nowruz for the irani players, as well as receiving their best wishes for Christmas. Quite similarly it went with the serbians when an orthodox red-letter day had came. Moreover, lot of us took seriously the rhyme definitely famous ingame, which says:
"Polish, Hungarian - two friends
Together fighting and drinking wine
Both of valor and courage
Let booth of them be blessed."
But later, the ways of actual history and ehistory divided, so as we. We have fought against, then for each other, later became rivals again and walking on different paths for quite some time now.
Indeed I know the MU and political parties, whose main objective is to conserve the friendship - or I might say brotherhood - between our countries, but to be clear, these movements are hardly making influence, became either marginal or dead, causing that all interactions between us is restricted to the level of polite political gestures. Later when I saw that the united forces of eArgentina, eRomania and ePoland conquered eBudapest, the relationship became even colder or what's more, hostile towards Poland in Hungary. At that time many nasty and perhaps some very unjust statement were readable in the media, targeting the epolish community.
donAbadnego, a high representative of inland polish-friendly community published an article for the sake of the forthcoming memorial day of polish-hungarian friendship,
For the day of polish-hungarian friendship
aiming to heat up the rather cold relationships.
The inspiration I got by the comments beneath his article lead me think that I should ask you personally, if possible by your media, in your own language:
What is your opinion about hungarians?
I mean do you have one? Do you have any opinion about us? Or you are thoroughly neutral, perhaps? Maybe hostile? After searching google I got a sum of thwarting results. Some says, that there's no such polish-hungarian brotherhood anymore. The whole thing is nothing more than a fiction, a residuum of historic past, a topic for sentimental daydreaming. A waste of time taking it too seriously.
It is a myth; poles don't give anything what's happening with us, only the elders may have some idea about the meaning of this cliche. Youngsters simply don't have any idea about the whole thing. Thus, it have became a tool for the politicians of the present, nicely working for meaningless communication.
It is somewhat similar to a meme, a sort of consensus, a false self-concept just like we have about the so called "famous" hungarian cuisine, the beutiful hungarian girls or about the hungarian hospitability. Here, many people tend to think these things make us worldwide famous, not realizing that these mantras are rather like self-consolations than actual reality. The numerous hungarian Noble-Prize winners, Puskás and the Magical Magyars or Golden Team; all of them whom we are most proud of, expecting that they are the ones representing truly what foreign people have in mind, when it comes to say something about hungarians. As far is I'm concerned, you too have your own "proud to be" stories. To summarize my points: is it possible that the polish-hungarian friendship is a consensus, a similar but less and less known hungarian myth?
You should know dear polish players, that some of us felt sadness and bitterness witnessing that 1000 polish protester supported the naughty and untruthful "Békemenet"(means Peace-marching), a movement proclaiming it's goal to support and glorify our prime minister, Viktor Orbán's and his cabinet's attitude and wordwiew. They felt something is spoiled irreversibly, but they couldn't find the proper words to express their feelings, what's the problem about the happenings they witnessed.
Sadness and bitterness we felt seeing that after decades this should be the occasion where our national flags, the red-white and the red-white-green along with transparents marching together with the people, under such circumstances. On the other hand, a lot of people were happy by the same fact.
And a lot of people feel themselves ashamed that the very same prime minister now sided with Putin for 30 silver coins, partly against Poland and Europe, while nearly 3 months have passed from the last polish protester left our country. And these people thinking on how sad and bitter are that bunch of ardent polish protester, now faced with such treason; what do they feel know in they armchair in front of the display. Do they still worry about us, or rather furious, or don't care at all?
Are there any who pays attention to buy - if possible - a polish apple instead of an austrian in the store? Are there people who want to know how zubrowka makes your vodka so special? Some who followed the annual celebration events took place in Przemysl by television, or search in the net for the of airplane-crash near to Katyn-wood?
And maybe they think into how would the mushroom-cloud of the first russian hydrogene bomb would look like upon Warsaw, deleting everything beyond it's reach.
So please, write down your comments
below regarding what do you have in your mind about us and about the old, old rhyme. Do we drink wine and threaten the enemy with swords together?
What do you associate when you hear "hungarian"? Provide me with your opinion and please, let it be more detailed than a usual commonphrase.
I request you to be as much sincere as possible with me, since my only purpose is to know the truth and hear your voices. The stakes are out, it's only a game. Such a pity would be to do the polite.
Only you can help me now.
It is perhaps the last chance to know your true opinion, before our time's over here.
I published this article in hungarian language 3 days ago, and i got some really nice and thoughtful comments related this theme. If you interesting, maybe worth to use google-translator to understanding.
Yours,
Murlockij
who's not a representing anybody else
who sends some tanks for every sincere opinion for commenters. I'll try to translate every comments; I understand english fairly enough.
And I'll say huge thx for my noble translator, Hercule Poirot who is translated my hungarian words in proper english, far better than me can able.
Dear Polish Players!
The time of eRepublik is nigh and it seems the game we play will not last long.
Let me introduce myself first: my name is Murlockij, a tank and mercenary ingame. Outside of the eWorld, I live in a city of the countryside, my profession is associated with books. If you take a look at my profile you can see that I'm playing this game for almost six years.
From the very begining I had my own ambitions and goals to fulfill, some of them were completed, others not. I beared your national colours for 3 years since I was an ePolish citizen. To be honest, I was mostly motivated by the economic advantages you were able to provide me, however I also took my part well in fighting for polish purposes.
Nevertheless, I had an additional reason for settling in your country: Namely the traditional, or to say the historic friendship between us.
Being a kid I was thrilled of adventureous historical novels, sci-fi and fantasy books. The Trilogy of Henryk Sienkievicz: With Fire and Sword, The Deluge, Fire in the Steppe were enlisted to the top of my favourites list.
At the time of my childhood, video and television weren't enjoyed as big popularity, especially not by a daydreamer bookworm-boy who I was; at that time, books got a lot more devotion and higher reputation than nowadays. Later in the years of my adolescence, I was deeply inspired by the films of Andrej Wajda. As far as I remember, I wasn't the only one.
In the school I learned much about you as our history and fate merged, by common kings and queens. I must confess I was thinking very highly of that. How interesting is, that we have two different nations, and despite of the lack of common origin, the language-diversity and the fact, that we came from different lands, our heroes of the past could find a common ground many, many years ago. Mongols, turks, russians encountered by booth, as well as revolutions, fightings for independence and wars.
A true turmoil!
As if you could touch a thread, linking our fate and making a double spiral eventually by the raging storms of history.
So I've read much about you as a kid, and I liked what read. I supposed, there have to be polish boys as well who feel the same sympathy for us, just as I did for them. Now, you see what a naive boy I was...
The reason why eRepublik got my awareness is beacuse it provided the chance of playing with national communities. From that perspective, the game functioned well for years. It was really a fun to wish Happy Nowruz for the irani players, as well as receiving their best wishes for Christmas. Quite similarly it went with the serbians when an orthodox red-letter day had came. Moreover, lot of us took seriously the rhyme definitely famous ingame, which says:
"Polish, Hungarian - two friends
Together fighting and drinking wine
Both of valor and courage
Let booth of them be blessed."
But later, the ways of actual history and ehistory divided, so as we. We have fought against, then for each other, later became rivals again and walking on different paths for quite some time now.
Indeed I know the MU and political parties, whose main objective is to conserve the friendship - or I might say brotherhood - between our countries, but to be clear, these movements are hardly making influence, became either marginal or dead, causing that all interactions between us is restricted to the level of polite political gestures. Later when I saw that the united forces of eArgentina, eRomania and ePoland conquered eBudapest, the relationship became even colder or what's more, hostile towards Poland in Hungary. At that time many nasty and perhaps some very unjust statement were readable in the media, targeting the epolish community.
donAbadnego, a high representative of inland polish-friendly community published an article for the sake of the forthcoming memorial day of polish-hungarian friendship,
For the day of polish-hungarian friendship
aiming to heat up the rather cold relationships.
The inspiration I got by the comments beneath his article lead me think that I should ask you personally, if possible by your media, in your own language:
What is your opinion about hungarians?
I mean do you have one? Do you have any opinion about us? Or you are thoroughly neutral, perhaps? Maybe hostile? After searching google I got a sum of thwarting results. Some says, that there's no such polish-hungarian brotherhood anymore. The whole thing is nothing more than a fiction, a residuum of historic past, a topic for sentimental daydreaming. A waste of time taking it too seriously.
It is a myth; poles don't give anything what's happening with us, only the elders may have some idea about the meaning of this cliche. Youngsters simply don't have any idea about the whole thing. Thus, it have became a tool for the politicians of the present, nicely working for meaningless communication.
It is somewhat similar to a meme, a sort of consensus, a false self-concept just like we have about the so called "famous" hungarian cuisine, the beutiful hungarian girls or about the hungarian hospitability. Here, many people tend to think these things make us worldwide famous, not realizing that these mantras are rather like self-consolations than actual reality. The numerous hungarian Noble-Prize winners, Puskás and the Magical Magyars or Golden Team; all of them whom we are most proud of, expecting that they are the ones representing truly what foreign people have in mind, when it comes to say something about hungarians. As far is I'm concerned, you too have your own "proud to be" stories. To summarize my points: is it possible that the polish-hungarian friendship is a consensus, a similar but less and less known hungarian myth?
You should know dear polish players, that some of us felt sadness and bitterness witnessing that 1000 polish protester supported the naughty and untruthful "Békemenet"(means Peace-marching), a movement proclaiming it's goal to support and glorify our prime minister, Viktor Orbán's and his cabinet's attitude and wordwiew. They felt something is spoiled irreversibly, but they couldn't find the proper words to express their feelings, what's the problem about the happenings they witnessed.
Sadness and bitterness we felt seeing that after decades this should be the occasion where our national flags, the red-white and the red-white-green along with transparents marching together with the people, under such circumstances. On the other hand, a lot of people were happy by the same fact.
And a lot of people feel themselves ashamed that the very same prime minister now sided with Putin for 30 silver coins, partly against Poland and Europe, while nearly 3 months have passed from the last polish protester left our country. And these people thinking on how sad and bitter are that bunch of ardent polish protester, now faced with such treason; what do they feel know in they armchair in front of the display. Do they still worry about us, or rather furious, or don't care at all?
Are there any who pays attention to buy - if possible - a polish apple instead of an austrian in the store? Are there people who want to know how zubrowka makes your vodka so special? Some who followed the annual celebration events took place in Przemysl by television, or search in the net for the of airplane-crash near to Katyn-wood?
And maybe they think into how would the mushroom-cloud of the first russian hydrogene bomb would look like upon Warsaw, deleting everything beyond it's reach.
So please, write down your comments
below regarding what do you have in your mind about us and about the old, old rhyme. Do we drink wine and threaten the enemy with swords together?
What do you associate when you hear "hungarian"? Provide me with your opinion and please, let it be more detailed than a usual commonphrase.
I request you to be as much sincere as possible with me, since my only purpose is to know the truth and hear your voices. The stakes are out, it's only a game. Such a pity would be to do the polite.
Only you can help me now.
It is perhaps the last chance to know your true opinion, before our time's over here.
I published this article in hungarian language 3 days ago, and i got some really nice and thoughtful comments related this theme. If you interesting, maybe worth to use google-translator to understanding.
Yours,
Murlockij
who's not a representing anybody else
who sends some tanks for every sincere opinion for commenters. I'll try to translate every comments; I understand english fairly enough.
And I'll say huge thx for my noble translator, Hercule Poirot who is translated my hungarian words in proper english, far better than me can able.
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My personal feelings:
I was in Hungary (one small village near Balaton) about 2 years ago. Main thing that I remember, and I want to tell you is: NEVER BUILD RAILWAY THROUGH CITIES. Seriously. Your train line was about 10 meters from my bungalow and it was hard to sleep.
Despite it, I really like Hungarians, and I never forget that even in darkest hour you did not desert us and you always stood with us in common side of battlefield. I hope that future will be brighter and our nations will stay together with peace and cooperation.
PS Don't trust Russia. Russia is bad.
I hope I wrote it well, my English sukcs.
Haha, true, the Balaton's south shore is a main traffic line between east and west side of the country since centuries. And this side is full of campings, hotels too 🙂
Long live the Polish-Hungarian friendship!
haha Murlockij, I missed your article at home. I'm a hungarian dwabratankist. 😁
any polish players who will be in Krakow at the ice hockey championship in April? 🙂
we can have some beers between the games 😉
BTW, this together fighting and drinking wine is bullshit as far as I know, at least in the polish version there is no vine at all... it's just drinking, or something like that. 😛
well, there IS drinking in polish version too! and it sounds like a nice party. they en-translate it in a kinda weird way, so the whole thing has rhymes. 'i do szabli, i do szklanki' literally means something like 'they both fight with their kewl sabers, side by side, and then, after the killin's done, they go drinkin', using HUGE glasses, b/c they drink so much'.
(szklanka in polish is a glass that contains at least .025l of liquid -- and it can only get bigger)
yeah, this is what i was told. but in Hungarian version they drink WINE, which is weird, as Polish people are not such wine drinkers as far as i was told 🙂
not so much as french people, yeah, but wine is becoming more and more popular 🙂. we used to drink more of this stuff once, before we discovered vodka and its enormous potential 😃. vodka is usually consumed in shots though, so the saying implies drinking wine, sort of 🙂
The hungarian word; szamorodni, is a polish word, the wine was the main export goods in many centuries. And the main trading route to Northern Europe was here too. The polish people drank many-many wines 🙂 (Was safest drink than water)
I can tell you that ever since the day one, all I had been wondering was 'why the heck do we have mpp with romania and FIGHT hungary, it should be the other way around!'. in fact, it was the very reason why I didn't quit this game instantly.
people have different goals in this game once they decide to engage and really be active. my goal was to change this unnatural situation and get poland allied with the hungarians instead of the romulans (inb4 some mod fps me, you guys don't fp for 'loland', so please kindly gt... you know). in order to make it happen I joined the government, and eventually became a long-term polish mofa, so that I would be in a position to actually change things. the road was long and bumpy, but we did have a common pol-hun channel called #schabowy (which, by the way, ended up inspiring two rl marriages and one kid -- so far ;d) with a bunch of other pol-hun govt enthusiasts, but despite everything we made it happen in the end. took us a year, we received some rl threats (yeah 😃), but we can say we did finish the game in glory.
I had the sheer pleasure to meet these hun dudes irl, in bp, and honestly, it was one of the best erep meetings ever, mostly because I got to speak to the two people I honestly admired in this game, both hungarian. the other reasons were the rest of the peepz from that crazy students dorm, hehe, you guys are damn awesome. ye, and at, and rhual, and nalaja, and [...]
in real, not-erep-related life I am pro-hun and I don't even hide it, having spent a few years in galicia (old monarchy, you know, LOTS of hun nostalgia/hun tourists, everybody loves you). I've been to hungary several times, and I firmly believe that bp is the coolest european capital city ever. also, whenever someone heard my mordorian language, they would instantly go all 'hey polak węgier dwa bratanki, what do you want, how can I help you'. what's not to love?
as for the bigger issues, I do know that some of you don't support ov -- frankly, I'm not so hot for him myself thanks to some of his decisions. but you know, our politicians also use the rl pol-hun friendship for their various stupid political purposes, so ov is not exclusive in his weird marches. this is why I would say that there definitely is a myth, it is very much alive in here, and it's not your imagination -- the sentiment is big enough to be a perfectly valid card to play. polish public opinion says all kinds of nasty stuff about romanians, russians, even the germans -- but nobody says bad stuff about huns. ever. there are even no negative stereotypes associated with hungary, like you know, "everyone is a gip s khm in romania" or "all germans are nazi". huns cannot be bad in any way . and it's totally, 100% true, you guys are the best.
nothing more to say, 100% true
The pol-hun friendship is a glitch in the matrix, a strange phenomenon, the fact, that alive in the XXI century prove. And i think worth to keep it in the future too.
The game is in ruins, and I hate to think the game is ending and the grand finish we are in the romanian side, and ePoland is our opponent 🙁
But I'm totally outsider in eHun, and as i see the representatives, old fags want to stay in status quo. Don't want any trouble, and wait for Plato's miracle.
Yep, signed both hands. Above and below.
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We want victory!