Join the new world

as long as BDP don't get into any positions except mongress and any government positions(except MoHA, MoEnt, MoE), it should be fine.

I would challenge that.

I know I've been here two minutes compared to some of the older generations. But I treat everybody with respect no matter what their past has been. I would expect to be treated in the same manner also, but this is not always the case in the UK.

FaP is a nice guy.. but he over reacted and lost his temper. To make matters worse he then took out his frustrations when nobody agreed with him out directly on UKRP.

BDP to be fair to them have treated me with respect and until I see them do something I consider wrong I will hold my judgement of them.

However having seen the attacks from FaP I would consider that worse.

Just my opinion and by no mean am I attacking anyone, I'm just judging two parties that I have seen and the way the have acted.

I see LoB, so if they apply for MoD, MoF, CP, even dicktaker. we should allow them.
certainly not. even if they are able to do that, we will never let them getting those positions... ever.

Based on what I have been told. Dapper was the one who did the bad things in the past.

BDP has 45 other members.

FaP has declared a war on UKRP (Because they SUPPORTED Appleby for Dictator...) I mean how ridiculous is that for a reason to fall out? come on Luke.

So should all UKPP be banned from part taking in government, because of one man's over reaction? of course not. Now I am not defending this Dapper bloke. Far from it but I think it would be a crime to slate their entire party.

LoB makes some good points. But yeah people like dapper and co in BDP need to prove themselves again before they can be even considered for a role in the government after past events

FaP didn't say that UKRP should be banned or hated on. He just dislikes some members. I do however agree that the UKRP are supporting BDP too much and it shows in your own text that you are being too lenient than you should be towards a party that contains a man who wrecked the country. Besides I think that half of the party are just dappers multis (he has billions), I mean - explain why they never talk in congress...William is the only one who has spoken!

MoHA is taken. shush

Lul :3

I still think you guys are splitting hairs over Adrastos.

I will fully back you up that Ad was not acting maliciously, however, his actions which you may call a troll, were idiotic. Ad helped facilitate the loss of the treasury to Wayne, ruin J
Huey's reputation and enjoyment of the game and instilled an anti-dictator sentiment in the populace which consequently facilitated the MEK takeover. UKRP try to belittle it by calling it a 'mistake,' others would call it gross incompetence.

I don't think Ad needs to be ostracized, or punished, but he certainly shouldn't be put in any position of responsibility until we're confident in his ability again.

I ask one question and hope for an honest answer; What would your view be if Ad wasn't UKRP, better yet, what if he was a member of BDP? Would you be so forgiving then?

Side note, I have no problem with BDP, Bruce is a pretty interesting guy.

I'm gonna be honest with you; if Ad was in a different party, it's likely that I would treat this situation differently. I, personally, would probably not get heavily involved in it, or be one of the leading figures in the cause to get him punished, but I would be less forgiving.

I think the damage that has gone to Ad's reputation is punishment enough, I doubt that anybody will put him in any important position anymore, although his competence has won him a Congress seat.

Anyway, I like your comment, very reasonable, accurate, and pretty much true.

I have nothing against BDP either, I have issues with the members. However, I don't have issues with UKRP, but again I have issues with a couple of their members. I mean most of them are right lads who are interesting. On the Adastros front, I don't think he should be getting away with what he did without a minor punishment, but I certainly think that at the moment he is getting too much hate without much reason - Dapper should be the one who should be getting punished and he isn't getting anything compared to Adastros.

Well, it's up to the eUK to punish As if they want, not necessarily UKRP.

Ad not As

Adastros actions have caused things which cannot be reversed. The damage he did to WRP and Huey in that term is unforgivable. Screwing over someone who I've known in the eUK since the start and the person who made me even stick around at the start as well as damaging the reputation of the party I helped build up from the sub top 10 to the top 5 was not something I could forget. Placing Adastros in MoF right after showed that UKRP did not care for the damage Adastros had caused, to the eUK, to the idea of constitutional dictatorship, the people who put their faith in Adastros, WRP and Huey.

Huey is no longer publicly active after what happened, why do you think that is?

Despite what you say, it wasn't hard to see Wayne taking money. It was so easy that I mentioned it several times, but I got told that I was wrong. Wayne had been toying with transfer money laws throughout.

If we wish to cite what Appleby said on the dictatorship policy, Adastros should be treated like anyone else who breaks it. Appleby didn't say if they had stolen money or acted like Dapper or BA. He said if they broke the policy, which Adastros did.

How do you cock up something like that?

'Oh hey Adastros give me dictatorship'
'Oh Okay'

It was his own conscious choice to pass the dictatorship to Wayne. Wayne didn't masterfully trick Adastros, he simply asked and Adastros did it for the lulz. It was no mistake, he knew exactly what he was doing.

I think it was a mistake in that he didn't expect Wayne to do anything wrong, just like the rest of the eUK.

I think there was more people than just myself who thought this would happen. I think that's insulting the intelligence of a lot of people.

You can argue on that small point all you wish though, it is debatable, but WRP and Huey's reputation were damaged massively, and some false apology won't fix that.

Adastros needs to be subject to the same sanctions placed in the Dictatorship Legislation. Simple as that.

You ruin the credibility of your own already pretend Internet Law even further when you say that if anyone you like breaks it, "It's ok they just cocked up - no punishment".

UKRP you can't campaign for laws you won't follow yourself.

Notice "My Thoughts on FaP's Departure", implying that these are my personal thoughts on the thing, not the entire party's.

They clearly are the party's thoughts though considering their behavior supporting him.

The PP decided to put the guy up for congress and forgive him on the behalf of the eUK and no one in UKRP even blinked an eye at it.

How can you sanction someone under a law that wasn't passed at the time of the act? It's patently stupid

That's OK. BigAnt didn't technically break any fake internet laws either, BigAnt4CP!

If you want to write something into law, that should be a principle that you follow anyway. UKRP don't actually believe that dictator abusers should be punished, they just want a weapon to use if it happens without their blessing.

Children,children ,children grow up and stop throwing mud pies at each other.

😁

I support Appleby!

You can't apply the rules to the likes of Dapper or BA without applying them to Adastros or Wayne if you forgive one then you have to forgive all and start from a clean slate for everyone, even though some things are harder to forgive than others. To say one individuals actions are less than others for the same/similar things just shows that some people are as bad as the followers of, say, Dapper that follow their orders blindly without thought. Just my thought

Oh and Woldy for DICTATOR, too much power held by one party makes me extremely nervous of another BA/Dapper clusterf*ck of a situation

The fact you lot still think the money was eUK's is pretty cute. Anyone with half a brain could see the eUK was running on it's credit cards.