[RF-MoFA][FR/EN] La France quitte LETO !
Diplomatie Francaise
Non, vous ne rêvez pas ! La France quitte bel et bien LETO après avoir été un moteur de cette alliance. Les raisons sont nombreuses et vont être expliquées une par une dans cet article.
Nous allons certainement oublier certains faits mais nous devons faire un condensé sinon vous n'allez pas prendre le temps de lire cet article.
Dans tous les cas, il est certain que cette annonce va faire grand bruit !
Qui sont les décideurs de cette action ?
Le mois dernier, sous la présidence de notre Grolandais Salengro, vous avez été invités à participer à un référendum. La question était simple : "Doit-on quitter LETO ?" 63% d'entre vous ont répondu favorablement à la question. Malheureusement, plusieurs évènements et la fin du mandat approchant, la France n'est pas passée à l'acte, divisant ainsi la communauté en deux clans. Les deux candidats à la présidence ont manifesté leur envie d'accorder une dernière chance à LETO et donc d'aller à l'encontre du référendum.
Les derniers évènements sur lesquels nous allons communiquer dans la suite de cet article ont conduit le Gouvernement à demander au Congrès s'il confirme ou non le référendum et donc la sortie de LETO. Ce vote s'est fait à main levée dans la partie privée du forum et la grande majorité des congressistes ont exprimé leur choix de quitter LETO.
La décision est prise !
Les causes du départ
Depuis notre entrée dans LETO, rien n'a fondamentalement changé sur notre territoire. Nous sommes toujours occupés par nos envahisseurs et nous luttons chaque mois pour obtenir un Congrès mais presque exclusivement sans l'aide de nos alliés ! Petit retour en arrière.
> L'affaire Taiwan
Nous sommes sous le mandat de Saint_Bobi (Avril 2014) et arrivons à la fin de l'effet euphorique d'être enfin sortis de notre neutralité. C'est à cet instant que le premier couac important intervient au sein de notre alliance. En effet, le Pakistan a NE la Belgique pour attaquer l'Angleterre. LETO voit ici une occasion de se battre contre un ennemi et met en place un plan plus séduisant sur le papier : la France et la Norvège NE l'UK tandis que Taiwan lance un AS sur les anglais. Mais voilà que RoC tarde à lancer son Air Strike et le Pakistan se fait repousser des terres belges nous faisant perdre un allié de circonstance. Au final, le plan se lance tardivement et la Pologne intervient pour aider son allié. Résultat : nous subissons le retour de bâton alors que nous aurions pu en profiter si nos alliés de LETO avaient réagi plus vite.
> Les individualités apparaissent
Il est clair que cet évènement a révélé les failles de l'alliance qui apparait en fait comme un regroupement de pays qui se sont engagés dans LETO afin de ne pas rester seuls dans leur coin, regardant ainsi leur intérêt personnel avant l'intérêt collectif. De plus, c'est à ce moment que tout le monde commence à percevoir que les puissances d'Asteria se fichent de ce qu'il peut arriver aux pays de LETO, les utilisant dans des plans uniquement pour conserver leurs bonus qui sont également tenus par une multitude de NAP signés sans consultation des autres pays. Le traité le plus important est sans aucun doute TETAS qui permet au Chili de se maintenir sur nos terres sans aucune représaille.
> L'immobilisme grec
Nous arrivons au mandat de JulianFR (Mai 2014). On s'est frayé un petit bout de territoire en Italie, nous arrivons à contrer le NE du Paraguay via une RW bien placée mais nous arrivons vite à la frontière commune avec le Chili. Seul espoir pour conserver un territoire chez les ritals : que la Grèce nous cède des régions qu'elle contrôle dans le sud de l'Italie. Ça tombe bien, les Grecs sont nos alliés ! Nous prenons contact avec eux, le timing est parfait vu qu'ils ne sont pas occupés ailleurs. Mais non, les Grecs ne vont rien faire, l'immobilisme de ces derniers entraîne un rasage complet de nos colonies italiennes par le Chili. La seule porte de secours que nous avions pour les conserver s'est envolée avec l'indifférence de nos... alliés.
> L'Argentine et le Chili s'amusent
Sous Hans.Bauer (Juin 2014), l'Argentine a voulu s'offrir les anglais. Comme chaque année, ils essayent de créer un Babyboom en créant un élan autour de l'anniversaire de la guerre des Malouines. Bien entendu, il y eut un arrangement avec le Chili pour se frayer un chemin dans notre belle contrée. Profitant de cette opportunité, nous avons discuté avec l'Argentine pour quelle nous mette à l'abri du Chili et de la Pologne quelques régions. Pendant plusieurs jours, nous avons espéré cette aide d'un de nos meilleurs alliés de l'époque et ils nous garantissaient de répondre favorablement jusqu'au jour où nous avons vu le recul de l'Argentine, de mèche avec le Chili, voyant nos espoirs de liberté s'envoler encore une fois.
> Le partage des Philippines
Nous sommes encore sous Hans.Bauer et nous lançons un AS sur les Philippines. Nous convenons d'un accord entre trois pays : les deux cités précédemment ainsi que la Colombie qui venait chercher un bonus. Après s'être plaints à maintes reprises auprès du HQ comme quoi nous venions anéantir leurs plans, les Colombiens ont littéralement fuit dès l'arrivée de l'Indonésie. Un couac qui peut paraître innocent à première vue mais qui fait suite à une trop longue série.
> La douille des propositions
Le bloc Asteria*Leto ne veut pas se battre contre le Chili alors que c'était le principal objectif. Le résultat est qu'en guise de solution pour s'assurer un Congrès chaque mois, nous avons eu droit à plusieurs propositions d'AS. Le premier est celui de l'Inde où nous obtenions 2 régions. Plusieurs pays de LETO ont accepté mais la France a refusé jugeant le coût trop important pour le peu de régions offertes, sachant que nous avons réussi à nous obtenir des régions jusque là et jamais avec l'aide de LETO ! On nous a aussi proposé d'AS chez Taiwan notamment dans ses colonies nord-coréennes. RoC a alors répondu du tac au tac, chose assez incroyable, disant qu'il était impossible de laisser ces régions alors qu'ils n'avaient aucun bonus dessus. En août, nous nous sommes même vu proposer un AS de la Chine car Asteria voulait tester ce membre : nous attendons toujours leur réponse...
> Les négociations dans notre dos avec la Pologne
C'est le dernier évènement en date, sous le mandat actuel de misterdo. LETO a négocié avec la Pologne pour obtenir des régions aux pays suivants : la République Tchèque, la Biélorussie et la France. Il faut savoir que nous n'avons rien demandé au HQ mais l'intention est louable sauf que l'on nous propose deux pauvres régions, sans savoir lesquelles, sans le retour des taxes alors que la Pologne n'a pas moins de trois ressources chez nous (dont deux uniquement sur notre territoire). En échange de ce bout de territoire, nous ne soutenons aucune RW contre les plombiers, chose que le gouvernement actuel a refusé. Mais la subtilité vient du SC actuel, Andre3567, puisque, quand nous lui avons annoncé que deux régions étaient trop peu pour nous, il nous a répondu qu'il ira négocier de nouveau avec la Pologne, chose qu'il n'a jamais faite. Il a alors demandé à la France si elle acceptait le traité aux 2 régions lors d'un meeting de LETO, nous avons refusé, bien évidemment, l'affaire s'arrêtant là jusqu'au moment où nous lui avons dit que nous préférions organiser une RW, chose qu'il a niée dans le dernier meeting.
No, it's not a dream. France leaves definitely LETO after being an important member of this alliance. There are several reasons that will be explained one by one in this article. We probably forgot some fact but we have to summarise so you have time to read this article. Anyway, it's true this announcement is going to make a big noise!
Who decide for this action?
Last month, with Salengro, our CP from Groland, the citizens have been invited to a referendum. The question was simple! do we have to leave LETO? 63% said yes. Unfortunately, several events and the end of the term getting closed, France didn't do it, dividing the French community. The 2 candidates to be CP wanted to give one last chance to LETO and so to go against the referendum.
The last events we are going to talk about let the government ask the Congress whether they agreed to leave LETO or not.
Decision has been made !
The reasons of the departure
Since we are in LETO, nothing has changed on our lands. We are always occupied by our invaders and we fight, generally, every month to get a Congress without getting exclusively helped by our allies! Flashback
> TaiwanGate : In April 2014, when Saint_Bobi was CP, we came to an end for being neutral and came suddenly our first problem within the alliance. Pakistan NEd Belgium in order to attack UK. LETO sees an occasion to fught against an ennemy and prepares a plan quite interesting. France and norway NE UK whereas Taiwan launch an AS on the British. But RoC lasts too long for the AS and Pakistan is pushed away of the Belgian lands, LETO losing a good ally. Finally, the plan comes too late and Poland comes and helps its ally. Consequences: we're getting punished whereas we could enjoy if our allies from LETO had reacted faster.
> Selfishness appear : It's clear this event revealed the alliance's failures which are in fact a group of countries which are in LETO in order not to be alone looking for their own interests instead of the collective ones. Besides, at this moment, everybody starts seeing that the countries of Asteria don't care about what happens to the countries of LETO, using them only for their plans to conserve their bonuses and signing several NAPs without asking the othre countries. Without any doubt, the most important treaty is TETAS, allowing Chile to keep on having our lands without getting worried.
> Greek Inmobilism : Let's come to the presidency of JulianFR in May 2014. We got a little bit of Italian lands, we succeed in countering the Paraguayan NE thanks to a well located RW but we are coming quickly to a common border with Chile. Our only hope to keep on having some land in Italy is that Greece leaves us some land the country has in the South of Italy. What an opportunity as the Greeks are our allies! We are getting in touch with them, the timing is perfect as they are not bothered anywhere else but they are not going to do anything and we will be wiped of our Italian colonies. The only exit we got just flew away due to the Greek silence.
> Argentina and Chile are getting fun : In June 2014 with Hans.Bauer as CP, Argentina wanted to get to the British. Every year, they try to create a Baby Bomm by celebrating the Malvinas' war's anniversary. Obviously, there was an agreement with Chile so they can get their way through our lands. Seizing the opportunity, we discussed with Argentina so we can have some safe regions against Chile and Poland. For lots of days, we hoped this help from one of our best allies as they guaranteed to answer us positively until the day we saw them stepping back by agreeing with Chile and seeing our last hope of freedom flying away one more time.
> The share of Philippines : Again under Hans.Bauer's presidency, we launch an AS to the Philippines. We conclude an agreement with Philippines and Colombia which was coming for the bonus. After complainig several times to the HQ wondering why we came to ruin Colombian plans, these last ones ran away once Indonesia arrived. It seems to be an other innocent failure but still an other one against us.
> The propositions : Asteria*Leto doesn't want to fight against Chile whereas it was the main goal. As a solution to get us for sure a Congress every month is to launch an AS. The first one was in India where we got 2 regions. Lots of countries of LETO agreed but France refused judgiing it too expansive for the few regions given, knowing that we wucceeded in getting regions without being helped by LETO! We have been proposed to AS Taiwan, especially to their North Korean colonies but RoC denied it which is quite incredible, arguing it was impossible to leave its regions whereas they got none bonuses on it. In August, an AS to China has been proposed to us because Asteria wanted to test this member: we are still waiting for their answer.
> To negociate with Poland on our back : This is the last update event, with misterdo as CP. LETO negociates with Poland to get regions to the following countries: Czech Republik, Belarus and France. You have to know we didn't ask anything to the HQ but the intention is good except they propose us 2 poor regions, without knowing which ones, without getting back the taxes whereas Poland has at least 2 bonuses on our lands; the counter part is France does not support any RW against Poland, thing that the actual government refuses. But the tricky part comes from the actual SC, Andre3567, because when we told him 2 regions were not enough for us, he told us he would negiciate again with Poland but he didn't do it, so he asked whether France accepted the treaty with 2 regions during a LETO's meeting, we obviously refused it, stopping the matter until the moment we told him we would prefer making a RW which he denied in the last meeting.
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First o7
Fist o7
Cochon o7
Noobs xdxd
🙂
Voted, but Belarus, not Belorussia. guys 😉
Biduloh ist ein Faget.
Merci pour cet effort d'information etce rappel chronologique.
Voted 🙂
Une bonne décision. Comme d'habitude vous n'avez reçu que le soutien minimal, et vos alliés ont signé des accords secrets avec vos ennemis sans la moindre considération pour vous.
Bon courage à vous tous. o7
Cuba salutes you!
"In August, an AS to China has been proposed to us because Asteria wanted to test this member: we are still waiting for their answer."
i will only comment on this resent event since a lot of the previous ones i am not in position to know details
only last week i offered to arange with china that france as north corea for safe haven
i asked that a pm with letto sg france representatives chinese cp and myshelf be opened by france requesting for areas in north corea and i promissed to help with arangements with the chinese
nothing was opened for a week and in the meetings of asteria i asked twice letto sg if there were any news
there was nothing and no pm with the request was oppened
i guess things were already on the way
i wish good luck to france in any future they may choose
xD.
China helping its allies? You must be joking.
Ohwait.
if Romania asks them, yes 🙂
China helps Canada all the time :3
A common thief, proven by game mechanics and temp banned leader of the Asteria
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/an-open-letter-to-the-citizens-of-asteria-2375093/1/20
Lol he doesn't even know his puppet alliance name xD
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made my day.
No.
o7
o7
Oh you thought that Asteria cares about LETO
ohwait.
Good choice.
I wish you the best of luck!
leto was a joke anyway
what else can u expect by alliance where is neuvocho main mascot
o7
France joins Pacifica in 3.... x2
Hola :3
You believe that all that happened to your country is a mere conspiracy.
In this lousy article, you say that your (already, former) allies haven't helped you. Let's suppose it's correct. But did you help your allies? I haven't seen 1 French soldier fighting for Romania, while being invaded by Chile and Bulgaria and wiped from the map... Your attitude is quite selfish. There are a lot of countries in LETO that didn't have Congress, but they struggled with their resentments and with their enemies, but not will their allies.
Good look!
I lol'd
me too. xd
Because I was the (French) MoD at this moment, I can tell you that our orders were led to Romania. We helped so much our allies some months ago that now, I understand if soldiers just fight for their own benefits.
There were many other moments when France has helped its allies, and sometimes they helped us in return, but in this alliance, it has never been so rare ...
Plus it's not only about help, but treason from our own allies. Obviously, we don't lump all our allies in the same pot 😉
Who said pot? I smell something. lol
Setting CO's for a country doesn't necessarily mean that the citizens will fight for that country. The point is that ASTERIA & LETO were dealing with a difficult situation (if you remember, not only Romania, but Serbia was also wiped entirely and lost their gold mine etc.), so nobody could really expect to be helped at that precise moment, despite the CO's...
The way the French Government has decided to announce their departure is reprehensible and unfriendly. Before taking major decisions, their is HQ and other structures in LETO, which I am sure that weren't even informed about the decision...
P.S. Below you can see a citizen of Columbia, a member of a respectable Argentinian MU, that frighted against Romania. Does that mean Romania should leave ASTERIA or what?
http://s27.postimg.org/kjim0aejn/Screen_Clip.png
I still don't understand one thing. You have (had) 2 people in LETO's HQ and you are not able to enforce your interests. Is it fail of alliance or yours? I was present on the meeting when we were discussing CZ&BY&FR plan and no one from French government showed up. Is it fail of alliance or yours?
I was online IG and IRC enough to see what happens, I don't just put orders and wait results, whatever the orders were for our allies or for my country.
Don't take specific example, plus if it's about CO and some soldiers. There are too many examples that shows the alliance is wrong about its management, so please don't blame the French gouvernment for giving up to carry on efforts while some allies do their business alone and against other members.
MrFahrenheit, if you talk about any meeting of the previous month, the majority of French citizens has voted for a lulz CP, because LETO was so deep failing that they have prefered to take a step back regarding the ways the alliance manage without our engagement.
This month our government has decided to get back some regions to assure an appearance of country on the map, with varying success, but the HQ has negociated a treaty that no one player would accept for his country. This has been the drop of water that has made the vase overflow 😉
LETO is a failure, we're not real friends, it's just a proAsteriA countries reunion Fahrenheit
just ignore romanian trolls
noone can blame France for being bad ally cuz they arent...
o/ good luck in future
What Kryptorium meant was that the treaty was the straw that broke the camel's back.
Tu sais Kadet, les dictons ça ne se traduit pas 😛
I wish to have France on our side again
Salute bros! o7...
tell this to Poland
lol
Greece isn't bad at it either, still waiting to get a meeting after 2 month of trying, I guess Greece just does not give a fuck about the country I run.
Greece is at vacation mode ON and other inner probs well known to all erep community. Discuss with whom and decide what that the other half will probably not accept?
Me too bro, me too... o7
Hail Terra!
Farewell then. I hope that you will find your way to gain freedom.
Which alliance will eFrance leave next?
Bonne décision !
I wish to have France on our side again
x2
Good luck to France ! : )