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[CP]Pre dicsussion of referendum on dictatorship

Day 3,282, 02:35 • Published in Ireland Ireland

• by Releasethe Krakken

Before we just conduct a referendum here is some important discussion topic

1. Who will fund the liberation. it will cost 1 million so any volunteers. You get a shiny unique medal 😛

2. MTO prevention - do we all contribute to a fund for CO's and a fund for a possible further coup if a foreign MU tries to MTO us or succeed in MTO'ing us.
The second one would cost 500 000. Therefore do we put up an MTO collateral safeguard trust.

3. Do we require future CP's to put up collateral before we allow them control of our finances. Practically would mean we shuffle money out before his rule start. Receive collateral and then allow him to handle finances .After his terms ends and if he is not re-elected we return the funds to him.

After this is properly vetted we can hold a vote if the majority of pseudo congress men/women actually want a nationwide referendum.

Comments

Fenoglioteam Day 3,282, 04:45

It seems that someone didn´t read my last article. You can read about that 1kk cc and MTO prevention there.

Ps: CPs aren´t criminals. You think that every of them will steal , but, are you doing it since you are CP?

Releasethe Krakken Day 3,282, 05:04

I cannot steal the money belongs to the dictator who can submit a ticket when I steal. however if you remove the dictator the cp can legitimately steal and that has happened 4 times here.

well an upkeep fee is in the works and they may even raise the 1 million higher. if we are going to do it we might as well do it now and get it over with.

i did read your article but there is a principle in online gaming of the gained value of an action versus the cost. a person that mto wont get his 1 million back and therefore an MTO aint really that probable.

in a full democratic system we would add safeguards to prevent unlikely events such as CP thefts and MTO's

Hexshade Day 3,282, 05:05

I don't actively have the 1kk cc needed, but I will donate every penny I have if need be. Beyond that, I don fully support the use of taxes and/or other methods of taxation to create a defense fund. I do think there should be a safeguard against rogue CPs. I like what you have presented and am eager to see what a referendum could do for eIreland.

Hexshade Day 3,282, 05:07

"I *do* fully support the use of taxation..." (Typo. On a mobile device. Es muy dificíl.)

Releasethe Krakken Day 3,282, 05:38

we would need backers and most of them is actually members of the junta. I can think of 2 other players but not certain if they would back this.

Winston Hope Smith Day 3,282, 10:48

you don't need any CC if the current dictator does the right thing...saying that you probably will need it after all 🙁

moomoohead Day 3,282, 08:28

I have the money, but am not interested in paying if the current dictatorship gets pushed out. I have spent millions in the past when crap governments got in trouble. Anyone can buy a million in this game quickly if they wanted.

Winston Hope Smith Day 3,282, 10:36

why not try a coup in Mexico...they deserve the karma don't you think? (joke btw because we all know it is just Ireland you feel you have supreme rights over)

Black Panther I Day 3,282, 10:51

Maybe Plato adds coup in the parties, that'd be fun! 😃

Winston Hope Smith Day 3,282, 10:57

Yes we are all subject to Moo's whims these days 🙂

But seriously...I will buy in and be constructive if I see good intent here...as I said below it does not need to cost anything...Moo can keep his few bob to toy with some other country 😛

Black Panther I Day 3,282, 09:04

First thing we should do is organise a national summit on which everyone would be able to come, that way of interaction will give to chance to everyone to explain their opinion.

Secondly, if people agree that we should move back to democracy, we have to gather 2 million IEP, I'm not paying that because I know it would be a waste of money, I know WHS won't give a single IEP for it because he never does. Wondering now who would pay for it and for what reasons? How would it help?

The main issue with Dictatorship is inactivity of the population AND Government, we have to find a solution to fix that.

In general, I'm very open to all the discussions which would lead to stronger and more united, active Ireland, we're not in hurry, so take your time, discuss, think about your ideas and let's find something which suits everyone!

Winston Hope Smith Day 3,282, 10:34

"I know WHS won't give a single IEP for it because he never does"

You are correct I have never given a single iep to remove this dictatorship.

I have given a lot of gold/iep to many players here unfortunately a lot wasted as hey were driven out by the abuse dished out by people you know and are friendly with in this game very well.

Winston Hope Smith Day 3,282, 10:38

bloody predict text...that last sentence "I have given a lot of gold/iep to many players here unfortunately a lot wasted as they were driven out by the abuse dished out by people you know very well and are friendly with in this game."

Winston Hope Smith Day 3,282, 10:47

"First thing we should do is organise a national summit on which everyone would be able to come, that way of interaction will give to chance to everyone to explain their opinion"

The last "summit" here was on what alliance to join...2 people expressed an opinion and that was considered a mandate to barge ahead...is it no wonder people have "issues" with National? summits.

Winston Hope Smith Day 3,282, 12:27

"Secondly, if people agree that we should move back to democracy, we have to gather 2 million IEP"

Well Don how right you are because even if people here do decide this Sluagh has just made it clear he does not care what people think and will do what he wants no doubt supported by his backers. (yes Moo that includes you)

The National Summit is a waste of time because if we have to pay the 2 million to remove him them it is best planned and arranged in the shadows.

Releasethe Krakken Day 3,283, 05:13

yes inactivity and low numbers . for me this step is applicable once it becomes economically unfeasible to run dictator when the upkeep fee is introduced. and secondly when we have so many new players that ideas like this becomes impossible to sell without losing players. but thb players like nogin and whis cannot be a part of the process. this morning nogin insisted on going back to the constitution and a legitimate dictator in her mind probably herself.

Winston Hope Smith Day 3,283, 07:09

Good to see nogin maintaining the ethical high ground

Releasethe Krakken Day 3,283, 11:16

more like the ethical mudpit

Winston Hope Smith Day 3,282, 10:44

Lots of talk here on money but of course this presupposes that a coup/rebellion is needed.

It is not if we return to the previous system we had of electing dictators who button push at the request of the dictator.

To get buy in what is required is transfer of the Dictatorship to the last "ELECTED" Dictator and then a restoration of the election cycle to choose a new dictator,

So

No millions are needed if Sluagh transfers the office...will he?

Dante Boss Day 3,282, 11:15

No to a constitutional dictatorship.

Winston Hope Smith Day 3,282, 11:27

as I figured... fairly solid rejection regardless of the wishes of the citizens here.

So there we have it the Junta will continue to play musical chairs while the rest of us can go to hell.

Thanks Fenoglioteam for starting the debate but at least you can now see the "character" of the people running this dungheap

Dante Boss Day 3,282, 11:28

Sorry for expressing an opinion WHS in an article about discussing our future.

I truly am the devil.

Winston Hope Smith Day 3,282, 11:39

That's OK...it confirms to everyone else what I already knew about your character.

So I suppose no sorry required you did me a favour

Dante Boss Day 3,282, 11:42

What about my character? I merely stated my opinion. We are holding a national discussion at the moment about the countries future.

Whilst I swallow my opinion would you like me to empty your diapers for you?

Winston Hope Smith Day 3,282, 11:50

Your opinion is, regardless of anyone else's opinion you will never give up the dictatorship unless it is to one of you cronies even is 90% of people here wanted change.

What is the point of the national discussion as the outcome, as I predicted, is already known.

That is the character I am referring to.

My diaper is fine btw 😃

Releasethe Krakken Day 3,283, 05:22

dicsussion so apt description in hindsight i think i will leave it be. 😃 yes sluagh is entitled to his opinion whs. we are not discussing a return to another dictator. game mechanics allow us to appoint dictators with no money . we are discussing a return to full democracy you know the thing you ruined for everyone in eIreland WHS with your constant attacks and mudslinging in countless congress threads. if you can remember the earlier sequence of events you snubbed the efforts of the previous pp of eire ainoar to raise a legitimate proposal thereby you yourself ended the legitimacy of the constitution because I told you you where bending and using it for your own purposes only. Ok so there you go use your constitution next time you go to the loo because it will never be applied in eIreland again. mwhahahahahahah mwhahahahhaahahhahaha mwahahahaha.

Winston Hope Smith Day 3,283, 07:10

"Ok so there you go use your constitution next time you go to the loo because it will never be applied in eIreland again. mwhahahahahahah mwhahahahhaahahhahaha mwahahahaha."

What age are you...4?

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