The Ragnell Issue - An Unbiased Report
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by chaznoodles
An interim report to deal with the Ragnell multi issue. I do not intend the comments on this article to degenerate into a war between those against and those with a differing stance, so keep it civil.
The report on parties should come out tonight or tomorrow, depending on time.
Hello again. As we all know through it's current portrayal in the eMedia, Ragnell has been outed as a multi account. For quick clarification, a 'multi' is an account made by a current player in order to be used to support their own agendas. Ragnell was part of The Unity Party, and became their spokesperson two months in.
Now, this matter has been given biased press reports so far. This article intends to give an unbiased viewpoint on the matter. Ragnell may have been a multi, and we all understand the anger and surprise at this, with him being a good part of the community. However, there is no need to label TUP as a whole for this, as this was a minority. The articles around, released by Vendetta, label TUP as "[using] these accounts to spread their propaganda on the euk public". Again, this is true to a certain extent in the case of Ragnell, but not as a majority.
I went direct to BigAnt on the issue, one of the authors of the Ragnell articles in favour of Vendetta. This is what he sai
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I also went to TUP themselves, to Farhan, was directed towards the press release TUP released concerning the matter: http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-tup-official-statement-on-ragnell--2406467/1/20
I also got a personal opinion from Keers himself (Brace!):
"I hate cheaters, I always have. I personally have never cheated in the game, because to use an old cliché the only person you cheat is yourself. An honest failure is better than a dishonest defeat. It isn't the first time a high ranking TUP member has been kicked or banned for cheating, and it won't be the last. As the largest party, we are the obvious option for gaining power quickly, and our policy of promoting promising young players makes it easier for them to take advantage. We'll take action after this to try and secure our situation further, but as The Equalist shows, a player can lie low undetected by anyone for a long period before taking power. We shouldn't use this as an excuse to deny a chance to new players, sometimes you just have to take the risk.
The majority of criticism has come from sources who routinely use multiple accounts to gain power. As most people know, "owner" accounts are never banned, only secondary ones. Thus these people have managed to lie low for a long time. However Don Dapper and Goku Jones have both had multis elected to congress, and BigAnt was actually banned for doing it under a previous account. They had 40 votes removed in the last CP election. The hypocrisy of them condemning us is therefore quite obvious. Whereas we openly condemn Ragnell for cheating, they promote their cheaters to the highest offices within their party."
The point of eRepublik is to bring the community together, not to split it apart. The Ragnell issue has brought tensions between The Unity Party and Vendetta to a head, with Vendetta using media as a platform to aggressively attack TUP as a whole. Here are some quotations from comments on those articles.
FightAndProduce - "Fair play, a multi is a multi. But saying that TUP leadership were all in on it sounds a bit far fetched to me."
Talon Karrde - This country would be so much better if we could all work together without the venom!"
The Aged And Eminent Tomcat - "One player does not identify with a whole party... Shall we start looking for [Vendetta's] as well and claim you are all cheaters?"
Editor's note: I could not include any quotations from Vendetta members who had posted, as comments that I found from Vendetta focused primarily on being rude to those commenting, or blocking their side of the story.
All in all, there is little point in branding parties to be 'bad' or the like. Instead, the parties should be working together yet competitively in order to further the eUK itself. Slander and aggression will not assist the community in the slightest.
Articles concerning Ragnell:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-tup-official-statement-on-ragnell--2406467/1/20
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-bigant-another-tup-multi-banned-2406080/1/20
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/tup-spokesman-banned-leadership-caught-red-handed-2406185/1/20
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Thank you for trying to present this in a fair and unbiased way. This was indeed a shock and a disappointment to many of us, but we have yet to hear his side of the story. Perhaps eventually he will be able to shed more light on why this happened. It doesn't make it right, but there are a lot of seemingly respectable citizens who have been caught with their hands in the multi jar at one time or another.
Thank you for taking it how it was supposed to be. Everyone's made their mistakes, some mistakes are more serious than others. I hope this works it's way out the system soon enough.
FYI, Ragnel isn't the first. That is why TUP as a whole is being labelled.
Confirmed example include that PP candidiate who got banned twice in a day and Ergo Deus who tried to take over a rival party.
Unconfirmed examples are James Scarlet and a few active players I won't name to not derail the article 🙂
Oh and no Vendetta/New Era player ever got a nice unbiased article like this if they slipped up.
They would have got a nice unbiased article like this if I was around at the time. Everyone deserves equal representation.
Just in case anyone doesn't know, this is the Goku Jones that was mentioned in Iain's message who ran a multi that was elected to congress.
In thought restarts were fine? You know that our current CP did the same thing?
You do a decent job at the unbiased thing. Unfortunately I like to take a side too much to be neutral 😃.
TUP official release >
"I admit our attempt to bring peace to eUK internal politics by electing a new rising player with a fresh mind and ample of new ideas"
TUP PP Keers >
"I didn't keep it secret, I just said 'no offence but you seem to know what you're doing, did you play before'. He said that he'd played before long ago in eIndia. Lots of players come back to the game. I didn't keep it a secret but the old account was dead so there wasn't any harm. "
So.......The guy TUP put forward as a new rising star of the eUK was known by TUP to be a reborn player?
This is deceiving the public, hiding the truth and etc.. etc.. etc..
The wider issue (ignoring the TUP Vs Vendetta war) is why is the eUK able to bring through so few new leaders?
I left over a year ago and since my return I note maybe 2 or 3 'leaders' that were not known to me from back then.
We rehash the same faces every election and I am not sure wheter its "Oldfag/elite powergrab" or simply an indication of the complete failure to retain and evolve our (real) new players?
My guess is that it is the latter, failure to retain and evolve, and for that, the game itself is at least partly responsible. As for the hiding the truth, I don't really think that was so. People not in TUP knew it as it was mentioned in public chat. In addition, at least one of the comments on one of his articles suggested that the writer had known him in eIndia, and I can recall another that asked who his old account was. There are tons of players reborn with a different persona. If the previous account isn't being used simultaneously and did no harm, I fail to see why this is an issue.
Having another account (even if it is dead/in statis) is breaching the T&C's.
But on the more salient point.......The game does take some blame but then again we have seen players rise up to lead MU's, parties be ministers or run state welfare programs.
There seems to be a large disconnect between players taking those roles and those willing to go for CP
Have we created to big a myth of the CP being a 24/7 position requiring extensive forig contacts and an ability to speak 5 languages?
Are we not offering a proper mentorship or apprenticeship for CP?
Is the 'spectre' of a dominant TUP discouraging those from other parties from running an outsider campaign?
Why can't TUP find an alternative to the regulars - Is it their nomination procedure, caution or something else inherent to the party?
Ragnell showed me the link of his old account and indeed it was an Indian account who then came to eUK.
However, it's a dead account.
Dead accounts can be brought back and renamed and used to vote on elections. If somebody really isn't planning on using it down the line then they would have contacted the admins and have it banned as soon as they created/brought a new account.
As long as the dead account remains "dead" then should it matter? It is in a state of being dead then it has obviously been inactive for a long time.
BIAS BIAS BIAS BIAS BIAS BIAS
DOWN WITH POLITICS, REINSTATE THE FEUDAL SYSTEM
good article
Spread it around, if you will, and make sure more people get an unbiased look at the events.
I will try, am re-shouting other worthy shouts, I am glad that the many sections of this government are up and running already.
Really Alan you are starting to look pretty bad you know this account is multi account right?
I started to become paranoid about who a multi or not a while ago. As it don't know for sure if anyones a multi, then I treat everyone the same.
If I listened to who people said were multis - then I wouldn't be talking to you.
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Never trust article that claims to be unbiased, I guess keers asked you to write this? He has also lied in his statement, Keers has been caught out, just be men and accepted it, people see though this now.
If I had asked to be called out on being a multiaccount, you know I would've came to you, honey. On the other hand, I did not, and asked in the article for things to be kept civil. Please do that, instead of creating conflict.
This guy chaznoodles 2009 account level 25,only last week set this newspaper up to cover unbiased politics took 5 years, is your 2nd article, I remember someone else doing the same thing a little while back, it just get worst, this is just more crud to try and make out it wasn't your wrong doings, this article shows how desperate keers is to try and save face. And how they spread their members though other parties you notice when something goes wrong for the unity party some random guy from another party will pop up with unbiased views. Complete fail.
Yeah that LazarusEternal guy is really suspicious too. Accounts becoming active after 5 years is hard to explain.
Either they were multies from the start or they restarted at some point and have gone back to their old accounts now to cheat/mislead.
If I had asked to be called out on being a multiaccount, you know I would've came to you, honey. On the other hand, I did not, and asked in the article for things to be kept civil. Please do that, instead of creating conflict.
I'm sure when TUP and certain sections of the eUK stop blaming Vendetta leadership, they will stop blaming TUP leadership.
This kinda shit works both ways brah...
Read the two comments above this one. I can see why Vendetta get blamed.
Correct me if I am wrong, but have Vendetta ever supported someone for CP from inside their own party that has then gone on to be banned for multi accounts during the election process?
TUP and Iain Keers have once again been made to look like fools. Why we bother to listen to either side of this saga is beyond me.
I have no opinion on the matter of supporting people for CP as of right now. On the other hand, little old me here attempting to make an unbiased article gets called out as a multi and a cheat. See how that works out.
Fake TUP multi account
No egov record www.egov4you.info/citizens/overview Nothing has been found.
Shameful actions, like Winston said Iain Keers must be desperate
Whoever owns this account you fool no one, at least fight daily to make it look less bait you are a clown!
sTUPid
Once again, If I had asked to be called out on being a multiaccount, you know I would've came to you, honey. On the other hand, I did not, and asked in the article for things to be kept civil. Please do that, instead of creating conflict.
p good article.
lol at all the hate and whining coming from vendetta, shows which side is more reasonable