The Good, the Bad and the Meh
Day 1,982, 04:40
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by Liam Tatlock
After perusing the wiki of the Irish revolution of 2011 (the year before I was eBorn), Irish Revolution, the comment about needing good, cross party ministers struck a chord and I started wondering who would actually fit this definition nowadays. Obviously Seanan in MoD and Appleman in MoF would, as would Sweet Drinker, but who else? And, for that matter, who would be/were bad ministers?
All CP's fill ministerial posts with their friends/party comrades, which is understandable, but is it a good thing? I really, really don't want this to turn into the traditional "you're crap" slanging match as Ireland needs strong leadership now more than ever, so I'd be really interested in honest opinions about who would make a good minister in what area and why. Or why not.
To me, it's essential that ministers should be as neutral as possible as the welfare of the country should come first, but where do we stand if Seanan leaves tomorrow? Surely we would need two or three good alternatives for each major position, so who are the up and comers, apart from Raven? For that matter, have we got suitable apprentices who could do the job or, more accurately, would be willing to learn it?
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All is lost if this country do not accept The Word!
To make this country strong we need national repent!
Look what happened with mufc's glorius succes since the betrayed and insulted The Word!
Accept The Word of Heavens and your salvation is at haaaaaand!
I think the essential characteristic is "good" rather than cross-party, and "honest" rather than neutral. We have had too much dis-honesty on occasions in the past.
I can accept a good honest minister, from an opposing party, who is a friend of the CP, particularly when she/he is doing their best for the country and its citizens, even if they make mistakes.
By cross party I simply mean that the party of a minister shouldn't be relevant if they're good at the job and are willing to put Irish interests first. I don't think that doing their best is good enough, if there are better candidates, to be honest, but I'd like to find out who people think the good ones are.
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I've liked Irasian when he worked MoC, and I think he'd probably work well in MoD position.
The Community position has been occupied by several really top notch people. Donut, James Keiller and Anthony Colby immediately come to mind
It's an important position to raise funds (and interest) for the country but it's probably the one where we've got some depth. I'm a bit more worried about MoD, MoF & MoFA, to be honest.
Thanks John. You were the CP who plucked me from obscurity. As for the other two you mention, they must have been before my time cos I never heard of them.
Only high-calorie Ministers succeed in MoC. Donut, Cupcake and Bagels...
That's why Sweet did well, is it?
"All CP's fill ministerial posts with their friends/party comrades, which is understandable, but is it a good thing? "
Its not one bit understandable, you should only ever pick the best available whether they are your friends or not.
We have seen loads of CP's over the past few months picking incompetent ministers because they are their friends and we have seen the problems it causes.
If you're in a political party, you'll have more contact with the others in the party, so, yes, it is understandable that you'd put them in your government. My question, though, was is it a good thing? I believe important roles should be done by people who have proved they can do a good job in the position, regardless of party. The follow-up question is who are those people?
It was different back then and it will never be the same again in eIreland. Back then, game mechanics forced us into working together and it was probably the most glorious time eIreland ever had in its socio-political history.
Glad to see someone at least reads my historical articles...
Mike has it right though, those were some glorious days.