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I think yes because they're long time friends and they never said no when eBelgium asked their help.

Why not?
But it's not because your'n ally that you have to agree (and help) with everything they do.
If we want to be an "neutral" country, I think we should ally everybody 🙂

Abstain - Here are my thoughts :
1) How come did you learn it while the voting has already started : you haven't seen the forum debate earlier or it was launched without any debate on the forum ?
2) The "neutrality" matter : How will this alliance impact our overall neutrality intents ? It should be put into wider perspectives and contexts.
(to be followed)

3) Context of Mitte's coming back and running for CP :
I don't think it's good governance if, in just a 24h period of time, someone influential comes back from another country, runs for presidency, and that an alliance with that same country is launched.
I trust Mitte and I don't have anything against UK, but I always try to think and react no matter the person. And in this case, I really don't think that is a good thing looking at the overall context : a matter of governance, influence,...

Mitteke is known to be back for more than 24h, even if this wasn't officially published 😉.

By the way, we have been having a MPP with UK for several months now, it's just that the renewal is now 😉.

RL Englishman, so I voted yes.

That's correct Jofroi... and according to what you say, I'd maybe have voted yes (still wondering a bit, and I don't know if we can change our referundum vote as the debate goes on).
But even though, to my opinion, my global reflexions still stand and don't deserve to be thrown away.

YES, of course. The eUK has been through with us thick and thin. Not to mention the alliance has gone on for a long time so as such this is merely a continuation of the alliance via game mechanics.

Yes, I second Karakoran on this matter.

Yes, but when we stop cooperate with NL, remember, they are ours anemy.

Abstain.... because of the redbro Alliance.

Strange way to start a referendum, If I understand, you are supposing that all citizens now the background, the reason etc...... for this matter. While you, as congressman did not even new this was in debate.
We can not answer correct without seen the pro and contra arguments (explained on a neutral base ).
voting just like that would be the same as crossing a highway blindfolded.

1) there was no debate on erepbelgium phorum. and there still is none. at least i can't find it anywhere. maybe the voting in belgium started automaticaly, because great britain congresperson talon karrde have started one?
strange way to start referendum without previous debate. yep. the voting came all of the sudden. i AM NOT supposing all citizens know the background. i dont know it meself.

2) great britain is occupied country. that alone should be enough to support it and agree on mpp.
[the fact it is part of a dubious one alliance and it is involved in the macedonian invasion to greece is sad, but still secondary]

too bad we r forced to merge debate with voting. time is runing out so i opt for YES

You'll kill the value of referenda if you keep having one every time something is debated or voted in Congress. Especially if no background is provided or any debate held in advance. I know you mean well and want to try out a new system, but if you want to any see decent results, then this should be done properly.

On the alliance renewal, I vote yes

On how alliances work: http://wiki.erepublik.com/index.php/Alliance#How_Alliances_are_Made
Note: if a country proposes a new or to continue existing mpp, voting starts in both countries

Point of reflection: new alliances are usually debated more extensively, while ongoing renewals are also discussed and proposed (for April: http://www.erepbelgium.com/t6066-next-mpp-s)

So get to know the context, and Aldous + 1, use referenda when they count

only new mpps might be the matter of referendum. true. aldous, there was no opportunity to discuss earlier. i was not aware of keeping an eye on every soon-expiring alliances, me bad. it won't happen again.

cheers for the info sx80. the new mpp is 10k cc. the wiki page doesn't say how much is the prolonged mpp. does it cost anything??

State Budget Law : 4 Mutual Protection Pacts will be budgeted each month for a total expense of 40.000 BEF.

eBE have currently 10 allies, and i don't understand why we continue to sign more. Because we have befs available in our treasury ? It's not easy to make understand the alliances we are neutral in these conditions. I propose that eBE stop signing any mpp's (which the law order us anyway) and to let our mpp expire... During that time, we could debate about which mpp we should signed...

Also, now that we have a new true patriot medal, it could influence a lot about our mpp policy. The best solution for our citizens should be eBE to remain neutral, signing few mpps to guarantee few wars a day (4 max, 2 ONE, 2 TEDEN, as before if possible) AND to organize a RW TW with the eNetherlands (so we will have to choose 2 teden mpps eNL won't sign) to offer possibility to fight for eBE to our citizens.

referendum closed with outcome: yes - 8, no - 0, abstain - 2

why should we focus on one/teden mpps? r there not enough other not-one/teden countries willing to sign mpp?

there are few countries truely neutral, and from those, even fewer who aren't at war with a TEDEN/ONE nation. Which is problematic for us 😛

li0leum, because we already have enough ONE mpp currently.

You can check this debate if you want : http://www.erepbelgium.com/t6226-mpp-policy-for-the-upcoming-month ; - )

Thanks to many for bringing explanations and opinions in here. That's at least something nice brought by this paper. 😁

I wonder if this referendum has any legal value. if yes, why isn't it published in an official way. If no i believe you should clearly state this is for informational purposes.

this referendum is completely illegal and taking part in it will most probably result in a court case for u. better stay away!