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USA A-OK?
As a new player in this new world, I have tried to learn quickly. To do this, I have used many sources. Newspaper articles and forum postings are two obvious sources that I've read.
In doing so, I seem to find only internal fighting. Everything I read indicates that I should be fighting in wars. Yet, the only fighting I see is a war of words between political players.
I may guess that your objects of debate are worthy topics. These public debates paint a picture of dire circumstances for the eUS. Yet, a quick search of stats indicates eUS as Top 5 in most major categories. In some key statistics, we are #1!
Like many others, I am sure, I chose my country and state of residence based upon my real life location. I know where we stand in real life. I am now wondering where we REALLY stand in this brave new world.
Please, leave internal fighting and political maneuvering alone for a moment. Instead, please comment/respond with your true thoughts on this great country's current and future state!
In doing so, I seem to find only internal fighting. Everything I read indicates that I should be fighting in wars. Yet, the only fighting I see is a war of words between political players.
I may guess that your objects of debate are worthy topics. These public debates paint a picture of dire circumstances for the eUS. Yet, a quick search of stats indicates eUS as Top 5 in most major categories. In some key statistics, we are #1!
Like many others, I am sure, I chose my country and state of residence based upon my real life location. I know where we stand in real life. I am now wondering where we REALLY stand in this brave new world.
Please, leave internal fighting and political maneuvering alone for a moment. Instead, please comment/respond with your true thoughts on this great country's current and future state!
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The war module should be up soon and God willing WW3 will break out
There is no wars until v2 methinks.
I realize that actual fighting is on hold right now. I was commenting on how all I see is internal fighting. A new player is not interested in the political mudslinging, they merely want to know how to advance and how to play/participate.
In the meantime, though, all Tutorials should be updated to indicate that fighting is not an option for now. It will save many new players many hours trying to figure it out.
I can sympathize with the author's point.
I've seen people decrying the deflation of the USD, and then hours later see articles raising a panic about its over-inflated value.
I've seen articles claiming that there are no major differences between the presidential candidates, and then when one is elected I see people announcing their decision to leave the country because of it.
Maybe I'm just too new to understand when I'm in trouble, but aside from some high Q1 food prices, it seems to me that people have a tendency to overestimate the "dire situation of the eUS" when it agrees with their political or economic philosophy.
Just sit tight, and keep writing man... good luck,
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Lol Its a wild ride. Hang on and enjoy!
Our country is currently in tough times as our treasury was drained and we are in the crisis of trying to regain money while spending it at the same time. The time is now for our country to unite even though we may be part of the USWP, the Libs, or any party and call ourselves what we truly are, Americans, and not just part of a party. Hopefully we will see events in the near future which will bring our country together to protect the most important thing of all, the USA.
"In the meantime, though, all Tutorials should be updated to indicate that fighting is not an option for now. It will save many new players many hours trying to figure it out."
New players need to hold off fighting a couple of weeks anyway to get their feet firmly planted on the ground and their wellness up, Get the five gold at level 6 and buy a house. It would also behoove new players to join the National Guard if they wish to fight.
War modul is coming back soon so be prepared for fight!
"New players need to hold off fighting a couple of weeks anyway to get their feet firmly planted on the ground and their wellness up, Get the five gold at level 6 and buy a house. It would also behoove new players to join the National Guard if they wish to fight."
One of the tutorials I read indicated you should fight right away. It said something about how the author wasted their first days not realizing how vital fighting is for them. It never bothered to mention that fighting is not possible right now, though.
Great Article for your first one! VOTED&SUBED
I think the eUSA needs to expand it's territory in any way neccisarry. 50 states and 1 district is wayyyy to boring
And if the Admins get around to it, we could change our Government
the only internal fighting which i see is from a government/political point of view. Everything is fine with the military and we all get on well.
Good article, makes you think.
@Equality 7-2591: (LOL - your name reminds me of how phone numbers were presented back in the Fifties and Sixties.)
Like many other simulations a large part of the action in eRepublik is the social interaction between citizens. We are as varied here as we are in RL so our politics range from self-proclaimed communists to pseudo-neo-nazis (although the later does not advertise that for obvious reasons.)
We have different viewpoints on everything: war, taxes, social programs, etc. Many do seem to lack the ability to discuss things seeing any differing opinion as treasonous and argumentative. Things get heated.
I realize you said "Please, leave internal fighting and political maneuvering alone for a moment. Instead, please comment/respond with your true thoughts on this great country's current and future state!" and yet it is not possible, IMHO, to follow that request and fulfill it at the same time.
My own POV on the future of the eUSA is somewhat middle of the road. It is not totally negative but I can not say it is highly positive either. I believe the current high taxes which will not be reduced but rather expanded if my gut feeling is correct is hurting businesses. But all of this has been debated and discussed elsewhere.
Thank you for an excellent first time article. I expect even greater ones in the future.
Voted and subscribed.
This is a important post. Even if the war module is down, it is better to concentrate on making eUS stronger economically than a war of words.. on the contrary .. a war of words probably is result of anything which cannot be solved by wars.
When will the war module workkkkk ???
@ Moishe:
"@Equality 7-2591: (LOL - your name reminds me of how phone numbers were presented back in the Fifties and Sixties.)"
My name is actually a literary reference (technically also a /philosophy/economic/political reference) and I was actually quite surprised that it was available for use.
I wonder if anyone can get/guess the reference.
Very nice article. As Moishe alluded to, RL echoes here in politics. It's what makes this game fun. Healthy debate is important. We are indeed a strong nation and your country's admin is actively working to improve communication and progress. A well informed populous equates to a strong nation imho.
@Equality, sorry it took me awhile to comment here. I will steer Uncle Sam interest to your article. I also want to add that if citizens want to participate in the meat and potatoes of this game, check out the forums. Thanks for joining us Equality, good luck.
I also want to add, nice title for the paper. John C's the Catalyst is also a good one.
nice artical
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it's always nice to see people who care about there country.
We're a nation of fungasms, and we're a nation of hardcore politicos.
But we're always in desperate need of both. It's been often stated, by a few people leaving comments here, that the eUS requires dissenting views from that of any establishment. Progress wouldn't be had without someone challenging an aspect of our government and its actions and for the sake of private interest and yadda yadda..
But of course, unity is the most important aspect for a nation. Though our past is peppered with sometimes too much dissent, we seem to always pull through in the name of unity (even if only for a few days, it's usually for the right cause).
Great article, Mr. Equality. I sorta forgot what else I was going to say.. I've been getting sick.. But I'll comment again when it hits me, haha.
Unrelated: What is Equality 7-2521? I haven't had the chance to study deeply into Philosophy (other than intro), and well.. don't think I'm much of a political/economic nut, I'll never guess that way, haha.
Equality 7-2521 reminds me of the Anthem, I'm not sure, since I haven't read that book in a while. I also don't bring up that book often, because admission to reading Ayn Rand around here can be a death sentence.
As to your article, I agree that it is ridicioulous. The former heads of my party is responsible for some of what has recently occured. They even wen't as far as to try and say that the party will merge with another party, after said leadership gave up and quit. It's childish and accomplishes nothing, but unfortunately, it's a part of the game, for whatever reason. Maybe it's just a result of social interaction, either way it's still very annoying.
You're article is very insightful and well written, and as a result, you've been subscribed to.
Well I guess the title of your paper gave away the refrence. At least I still feel good for recognizing the reference.
first... I think I'm going to google search that number lol
obviously there are a lot of silly political arguments. That's simply because everyone feels they have to voice their opinions, especially if they differ from other people's. it creates in fighting, which is never fun and thus in order to be resolved, it must be treated very seriously. so it gets down to either having all fun or all intense politics and it's hard to find the place in the middle around here.
also great first article, I'm sure we can expect a lot more from you in the future.
i agree. manifest destiny ftw!
I think or country is doing fine, I mean if you look at the Greek economy it is totally messed up. Their are no jobs there at all!! My point is if you look around at some other country's,some of them are much worse then or country.
@ Gates:
"Equality 7-2521 reminds me of the Anthem, I'm not sure, since I haven't read that book in a while. I also don't bring up that book often, because admission to reading Ayn Rand around here can be a death sentence."
uh oh
considering my citizen name, org name and newspaper are all in that same vain, I could be in trouble
Nice Ayn Rand reference. One of my favorite authors. Voted and subscribed.
Voted and Sub'd
Very well written. I liked it a lot.
I even subscribed.
I understand how things look to a new player. Or even to a player who doesn't get involved in the off-site forums and irc.
It seems like we love bickering and in-fighting, and that we tend to air it all out in public.
For the record, a lot of this stuff goes on away from the public eye, and only when it boils over does it surface. I don't like publicly blasting anyone, but due to what I described earlier (many players who just scan the media and no more) I felt that it was important to shed light on the Uncle Sam situation. Many new players or "2-clickers" only see he is active and has high points.
They deserved the whole story.
As far as the fighting goes - this is a social strategy game. As Moishe rightly said, it is normal that personalities clash and opinions differ.
I would in-fact encourage this.
The less people who click Work then train and log off the better. That is completely missing the point of this game.
Excellent first article, and I voted and subscribed.
Really they have been raising taxs all across the board we are in for more econimic hardships in hte future unless the people in key postions do something different.
I agree that the cat fighting in the papers sounds bad, but I think it's folks getting antsy/bored because of waiting for the new war module.
Anyway, voted and subscribed.
To answer the question in your title: yep. We are A-OK.
Keep in mind that this game (gasp!) is a socio-political simulation, so the participants are not representative of the general population, but are better educated, better informed and far more opinionated and outspoken. Vigorous debate and firmly defended beliefs lead to what you are perceiving as fighting.
The eUS is in far better condition than nearly all other nations in the game. Things are far better here than our conversation would lead you to believe. Even with our treasury being emptied last month, we have recovered from that incredibly fast.
We have it good. The fact that our citizens are this expressive and involved is a healthy sign of our strength.
Welcome to the eWorld and keep up the articles.
"I also don't bring up that book often, because admission to reading Ayn Rand around here can be a death sentence."
Now now, eRepublik isn't that bad when it comes to Rand-haters
Quite a few of the characters from her novels are citizens (most of them dead by now though) of the New World! Just a couple of days ago, a John Galt made an article here in the US!
I dig your name, Anthem rocks, Prometheus ftw
On Topic : Well as many have already said, this is a social strategy game, we are the biggest country, and political ideologies are all over the place, so internal fighting is to be expected.
If you want a good idea on where we stand on the numbers, check out this article:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/the-catalyst-where-do-we-stand--732187/1/20 (also, the spreadsheet in the comments). New statistics will appear regularly in the media (Alby's newspaper, eGold, always has good info)
Short, sweet, and to the point. Really well written. Anyway, I sympathize with you. I am also a new player trying to get the gist of where the eUSA is in the world. However, just like in real life, I think that active debates are essential to our country's growth. As new ideas pop up, they are debated until a final product is created. Or, they are shot down as quickly as they are brought up. Or they are debated and debated and nothing is ever really done with them, other than helping the eAmericans exercise their debate muscle. Either way, political debate is important to the health of the eUSA., and is kind of the point of this game.
Is fighting such a bad thing? I mean, c'mon, why do we even play the game? If nobody fought, if there were no domestic or even foreign affairs, the game would become stale. Fighting happens naturally; it occurs because of entropy. A non-entropic state is a utopia, and although your article probably doesn't mean "There is 100% hysteria", this game is fun only in two different daily eras - quarrel and innovation. IRL quarreling isn't exactly fun, unless you're on the debate team (in which case, good for you). But in erep, fighting, being the devil's advocate, etc, will bring you to that second era - innovation, advancement, strength. This does not translate as much to real life because there are far fewer factors in erepublik that one can deal with.
Anyways, good article.
lol thanks for the mention Joe!
I love the fighting...keeps the blood flowing...and progress will ensue!
@ Benn:
The language used for internal (note: political) fighting comes across as scaremongering. I would guess this was not always intended by each author. Sometimes they may be just exaggerating. What is written is not as important as what is read. The perception is scare tactics of dire circumstances. The reality appears to be more marginal disagreements about national advancement.
Thanks for the comment, though. Did you subscribe?
God speed and good luck...but I have my question? Man Ive been hearing this stuff on boards lately and rumors been circulating that one of these wars might involve Canada getting annexed by the eUSA? Is that true???
Good article. voted.
Who is John Galt?
Good article, I agree. I've been playing for a few weeks and had no idea the war system was broke. And I do see quite a bit of fighting/arguing/finger pointing, but I believe thats normal. Anywhere you go would have that. Free speech for the win?
I don't think I read the same article as everyone else here.
I get the gist of the article is "over-statement of the problems is bad, all this life-and-death talk is bad, arguing is bad."
But to me it reads more like a very simple attempt at squelching somewhat-productive debate rather than assisting it, and the comments speaking to "insight" here, well, I don't really see depth in the article, it's more of a superficial look at the dialogues that rage across this country.
Sorry if this doesn't fit in with all these "good article" comments, and sorry for the harshness. Even good writers should be open to criticism. And so should our discussions and politicians.
Thanks for the great article. Make some more.
Voted and subscribed.
@ Gates Schellinger
I've read all of Ayn Rand's major books and they have changed the way that I see the world. I never knew that people looked down upon her here.
Leck mich am Arsch
I wrote a whole comment and then saw that "view ALL comments link", now I really don't like to say anything at least slightly sensefull anymore.
I am now going to look for some beer, get a shower and some sleep.
Sorry Equality (pm me your name-secret, please)
You want me to "comment/respond with your true thoughts" get some actual EXPERIENCE in the game before you right articles that are of little substance and value. There ARE real problems that are occurring in the eUSA. You can't acquire all the knowledge of this game from 12 days of reading, and analyzing statistics.
We bicker internally so that we REMAIN "Top 5 in most major categories. In some key statistics, we are #1"
Equality- Good book, hate to think it would actually happen though (a century to pass using horse hair in candle wax? Thats just wrong.)
Im new to eRepublik and I was seriously wondering why there was no fighting going on and we have a military for no good reason with no fighting allowed. We have 16 wars going on and no battles. The only real fighting is in politics that dont even happen by a bunch of people who think that they are representing when they really aren't half the time.
@ Newworldorder:
You may have missed the point, friend. These are not observations from experience. These are observations without experience and from a third party perspective. Again, these are not facts and reality doesn't matter. All that matters is the perception of the new player, which is what is provided.
@ SamWystan:
"arguing is bad"?
"squelching debate"?
Nope, just asked for it to be left out of the comments on this article. Instead, we could focus on not just what is important to the country's leaders, but what is important to new players. If no one cares and no one listens to new players, how can we advance as a nation?
Perhaps we can. Perhaps you wish to make that point?
Sorry, I didn't pick up on the point of listening to new players in the above article.
@ Writer
As a result of our large population we fight alot. I think it was Stephen King who said in a book "Get 6 people together and you recreate war". Humans in large numbers tend to create cliques and push their own goals.
In the more smaller countries you see people all coming together because they know without unity their nation will be destroyed by fighting.
The US HAS the people to afford this infighting. On certain issues America is able to unite.
But yes it is sad we have infighting. Wish it wasn't so but it is what it is.
@ Sam:
The first sentence is:
"As a new player in this new world..." that then follows with new player perception. When posted, it was just one new player's perception. You'll notice in the comments that many other new players have felt similarly. So now it is many new player's perceptions. More experienced players can take it or leave it, obviously. But at least now they know more about how new players were perceiving all of it. More compelling is probably all the new players that have similar perceptions and choose to give up on the game altogether. Does this benefit the experienced players?