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Thoughts on the Taiwanese Operation

Day 1,923, 22:23 by Vanek26

Almost six weeks ago, President Fingerguns announced to the American people, the start of a new military campaign: Operation Gangnam Style. The premise was simple. The United States would use our superior military strength to liberate the occupied Asian nations of South Korea and Japan from the clutches of Taiwan.
During the month prior, we had gone to war with Taiwan to aide Brazil, and at the end of this campaign, had occupied the four original regions of Taiwan, which we still control to this day. Following this, CoT and TWO began moving countries into position for a strike on the EDEN supply base, China (PRC). The United States is trying to toe a very thin line between aiding CoT, and fighting against TWO, so we had minimal interest in joining the attack on China. From our desire to help CoT, Operation Gangam Style was born.


But six weeks later, very minimal progress has been made. Taiwan remains entrenched in South Corea, yet has experienced loss of territory in Japan, down to just two regions that are not connected to the capital, making them relatively valueless.

How did we get here? And how is it possible that a nation with the military strength of the United States has been stymied by Taiwan? Let me explain.

While the United States is among the largest countries in terms of damage output in the world , our population is very heterogeneous. We have large groups of foreigners from EDEN nations, CoT nations, and even TWO nations that are here legally. We have many other foreigners that have come here illegally in an attempt to destabilize and in essence, defeat in the only long term way possible, the United States through Political Takeover. The end result here is that there some severe fractures in this large damage output. On the other side, Taiwanese damage is very hard to measure due to the fluid nature of RoC and PRC citizenship. Ultimately, the difference between the eUSA damage output compared to Taiwan isn't as large as one might think.


Compounding this situation are the game mechanics. It is far easier for an occupying nation to defend against an invasion. So while the United States was able to conquer the actual Taiwanese regions, attacking occupied territory is a far trickier proposition. Adding to our woe, the unique geography of South Korea means that only one region connects the island of Taiwan to South Korea’s territories, Joellenam-Do, creating a choke-point. Taiwan has employed a careful strategy of disengagement, and executed it fairly flawlessly. Each time we get a border, they've been able to declare war on us seconds before we can, and more often than not, beat both allied and American attempts to start Resistance Wars elsewhere but the choke-point. Once they have secured initiative, they return the region to South Korea.

I personally want to applaud the Taiwanese for their precision and discipline, as they appear to direct their damage exceptionally well and lose every battle they want to, while winning the ones they absolutely must. It is highly impressive. Kudos where kudos is deserved.


So, the USA has not made progress, and where do we go from here? There are a few choices.

The first is, as it is in all situations, to remain with the status quo. Continue making attempts to NE Taiwan each time they wipe and free, wipe and free, over and over South Korea. I've seen some people argue that the United States cannot afford to remain at war with our budget problems, but frankly, it really doesn't cost us anything. Every 3-5 days we’ll get a battle or two to work on True Patriot medals, and a chance for more.

One of the more aggressive options is sending our forces to fight against the Taiwanese attempts to give regions back via Resistance War, or even to RW one of our own Taiwanese regions back while Taiwan is engaged in a Natural Enemy battle on South Korea. Both of these ideas have merit, but it is my personal opinion, from my many months as the head of America’s Military that these operations would require more resources than we are presently able to commit.

The last option is to negotiate a settlement with Taiwan. The USA has no real interest other than helping out our alliance partners, and a settlement where USA returns Taiwan in exchange for South Korean regions could be a solution. While I personally lean towards this solution, there would be 4 nations involved, and getting them all to come to a consensus could prove difficult.


I’d also like to take a moment to congratulate Albania on their epic battle, we came so close to victory my friends. In addition, I always have an open door policy, so feel free to drop me a pm or preferably an irc chat.

Vanek26

 

Comments

Vanek26
Vanek26 Day 1,923, 22:24

First

Molly Emma
Molly Emma Day 1,923, 22:27

Good analysis. Any comments on the amount of huge tanking we have seen for these territories on the part of Taiwan, Chin and EDEN in general? I know it's tapered off some, but in the beginning those were crazy huge numbers.

Vanek26
Vanek26 Day 1,923, 22:31

EDEN's always relied more on tanking then their opponents, even in upswing periods. Taiwan is even more reliant on this.They have some very committed tanks, I believe they have the youngest GoW in history for example. But, when you look around at some of these other battles, the numbers weren't that out of whack with the rest.

Astraeus II
Astraeus II Day 1,923, 22:30

Great article. Voted

Edmond.D
Edmond.D Day 1,923, 22:33

llemple unit was the captcha to subscibe @_@
You don't seem to write very often, but when you do it's pretty high quality stuff, so it's worth the sub. This one made me think of a time when there was only one back-door into Asia, which proved to be one of erep's most pivotal choke-points.

Vanek26
Vanek26 Day 1,923, 22:37

Good times. The difference there was Japan could at least retreat the region if they wanted to. Here the simplified mechanics force it into a choke-point. But yes, I remember the battles for Kyushu.

Edmond.D
Edmond.D Day 1,923, 22:42

Ya, after some quick poking around on the wiki I leaned pretty quickly that anything V1 is now woefully obsolete. Kyushu is mostly irrelevant, but sharing something that's only slightly relevant, as long as my mind makes the connection, is one of my quirks ;]

Vanek26
Vanek26 Day 1,923, 22:44

I disagree, in my opinion V1 was almost better in every respect. So its hard to call it obsolete. Maybe different would be a better word?

Edmond.D
Edmond.D Day 1,923, 22:57

Oh, that's not at all what I meant by obsolete. :P Simply that all the old rules, all the old strategies, just aren't effective anymore. I consider things like this to be far superior to any of the battles in the current module, for a multitude of reasons.

A.3.G.I.S
A.3.G.I.S Day 1,923, 22:36

Voted

Tiamati
Tiamati Day 1,924, 23:53

An excellent perspective and analysis of the Gangam debacle; irrespective of the options the true difficulty is a lack of direct battles which prevents eAmericans young and old to work towards their true patriot medals.

Hopefully the next PotUS will be more responsive and proactive in addressing this concern as it seems our current president seems unable.

Vanek26
Vanek26 Day 1,924, 07:41

So would you favor some sort of war games?

Drew Blood
Drew Blood Day 1,924, 10:01

No, but attacking Canadian regions currently occupied by Spain would be nice; also I seem to remember when America kicked a** in the Far East -where is Gaius Julius and Eugene Harlot when you need them...?

klop123
klop123 Day 1,924, 13:20

Ichabod: Yes save eCanada

Tiamati
Tiamati Day 1,924, 14:51

I most enjoyed the period of eAmerican history when our primary objective was keeping eIberia wiped for their treachery and wholeheartedly feel our annexation of eSpain ended far too prematurely.

War games or wars; either that accomplish the goal of availing eAmericans of the patriot medals which will aide us in collecting coveted gold which will make our nation richer and subsequently stronger in these hard economic times.

Drew Blood
Drew Blood Day 1,924, 15:50

Agreed, not only do the lose 10/10 bonuses they keep American citizens from being able to gain old through medals; while everyday you see Battle Hero or Campaign Hero Shouts from someone high in government rolling across the screen...the only thing the 'Pfeiffer Loyalist' care about is their own pockets....

JyM23
JyM23 Day 1,924, 00:29

VS

I understand the lack of political will right now to finish the job. I don't think the strategy to harass the Taiwanese is necessarily wrong: it keeps them on their toes and if done right it can cause them to bleed gold (even if bought with RL$, it eventually adds up) while it doesn't have to cost us anything.

My main concern is morale. There is a catch 22 situation there I know, but we should let people know that Operation Gangnam Syle is on the back burner. We don't need more of a defeatist attitude among our military than we already have. The trick is to tell people it's on the back burner, then surprise the Taiwanese with a full deployment to their next RW just to keep them on their toes (no extra funding or tanking though). Test their morale instead of ours.

Vanek26
Vanek26 Day 1,924, 07:40

The problem is deployment costs money. Takes ~8k to move ST6 and SF, the two very mobile death dealing machines.

Dio Makso
Dio Makso Day 1,925, 18:45

You mean 8k cc to move them both once, to a foreign region?

Vanek26
Vanek26 Day 1,925, 19:44

Yes. 200*40 dollars = 8000 dollars.

Aussie Blokee
Aussie Blokee Day 1,924, 00:47

vs

Bia Pandora
Bia Pandora Day 1,924, 02:08

*hugs Vanek*

ElvenCRO
ElvenCRO Day 1,924, 02:23

Great analysis Vanek! vote! o7

Quintus Modius
Quintus Modius Day 1,924, 02:25

Very insightful thoughts Vanek.

fingerguns
fingerguns Day 1,924, 07:51

Great article. Negotiation could work. I know Taiwan is at least somewhat open to it.

We'll still need to work out Japan, but securing South Korea is an excellent place to start.

Albert tseng
Albert tseng Day 1,924, 08:26

nice article

NicknameFromRonny
NicknameFromRonny Day 1,924, 08:34

Very good read.

Nektari0s
Nektari0s Day 1,924, 08:34

Good analysis and of course voted!

EucliwoodHellscythe
EucliwoodHellscythe Day 1,924, 08:51

Nice analysis.

On the other hand I think such situation won't come to an end since Eastern Taiwan is firmly connected with Hawaii, which means eUSA can actually bully eTaiwan at any moment if she wants.
Keep dancing and wait until the ball ends. wwww

Talon Karrde
Talon Karrde Day 1,924, 09:27

Voted, interesting and accurate analysis.Taiwan have proven to be quite resourceful in this, and as Einstein famously said; insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result... With that in mind I think you have to look at arriving at some sort of compromise.

Drew Blood
Drew Blood Day 1,924, 10:10

Gangnam Style is a failure and has done nothing but drain away resources and cash. Time to pull out and look north of the border for 10/10 resources. NE Spain and start fighting a war most of American can get behind, stop kissing CoTWO ass and get the F**K out; start thinking about America instead of everyone else or worse your own political careers....

Vanek26
Vanek26 Day 1,924, 10:32

It really doesn't cost anything. NE's are free for example, and we fight the same every day.

Drew Blood
Drew Blood Day 1,924, 15:46

It cost the government wellness, weapons or wellness/weapons for every soldier -soldiers I point out that could be self supporting- who is in the USAF. Wars are never free....

Vanek26
Vanek26 Day 1,924, 16:12

We supply the same weapons every day. We don't only supply for our own battles. Allies get the same damage.

Drew Blood
Drew Blood Day 1,924, 17:01

Not sure what you mean. Seems we both agree it has a cost. Yet you state that continuing the Gangnam fiasco is cost free and we are not talking allied battles, only Gangnam.

some_mascot
some_mascot Day 1,924, 15:05

I am still trying to figure out what happenned to the Brolliance while I was away.

Let's do some hemisphere house cleaning.

negro cincope
negro cincope Day 1,924, 18:07

ne spain? that would be nice. at least usa would have battles everyday. about the 10/10. i think it´s gone forever. people are too scared of the ptovers.

Maxx Johnson
Maxx Johnson Day 1,924, 17:21

Hail Albania!

Chucky Norris
Chucky Norris Day 1,924, 17:47

As always, Vanek stand as the voice of reason. One thing thought.

I always saw Taiwan as much more than a liberation operation. It did serve some other purpose, one of them being shedding the former stack of MPP we had and effectiverly draining away Eden dmg so that other CoT battles could be successfull. In this regard, Gangnam Style operation could be seen as some sort of political victory in getting things done, even if the result are not garnering much enthusiasm from the populace.

negro cincope
negro cincope Day 1,924, 18:16

if Operation Gangnam Style goal is killing every single american citizen by boredom, i think it works fine. nowadays i think you can enjoy the game more if you join any other COT country. you can also fight all the cot fights in those countries which is what usa is doing the 99% of the time. 1% goes to operation ultimate boredom at asia, i mean gangmanstyle.

John TG
John TG Day 1,924, 18:30

Exceptional analysis,Voted

Thedillpickl
Thedillpickl Day 1,924, 18:43

Face it, the econ (à la Plato) has hurt our ability to fight. The days of unlimited resources are over. The "unity" in the US is not so unified, at least in our military and MUs. The days of a big rally are behind us. Used to be when we all marched off to war it was to the same drum beat. Now we each have our own drummer. We are busy trying to figure out how to spell "team" with an "I". Another thing I note that has put lead in our ass is that our leading military/MU people are not native Americans. I have no problem working with immigrants but when they put their homelands interest above their adopted country's I think it is time for someone to go home.

ElmieJr
ElmieJr Day 1,924, 20:51

Great article Vanek!

TrBinW
TrBinW Day 1,925, 02:12

HEY

Haiglun
Haiglun Day 1,925, 02:13

V+S

TrBinW
TrBinW Day 1,925, 02:16

你已成功捐贈 1 TWD 。這筆款項很快會出現在對方帳號內。

the tormented one
the tormented one Day 1,925, 03:34

The war has been going in eRoC favour for a while. Basically, they have control over every tactical aspect, when to RW, when to start the NE battle, which battle to win, which battle to give up. They have you measured in every single way.

I am afraid eUS basically still havent learn a thing from this, they have been consistently using RWs at Jeolnam to block your NE, and you still cant organise someone to start a RW somewhere else in eRoC to stop them from using this tactic at all time or until you get a beach head in eSK. You guys obviously have a lot of damage, but until you match them up in term of strategy and commitment, it is pointless.

They are fighting for survival, you can't just do shxtload of damage and expect to win.

Arrden
Arrden Day 1,925, 10:18

Well done.

Voted.

Dell Fargus
Dell Fargus Day 1,925, 19:32

Land swap through Kyushu, like we did for the 3 pillars campaign.

 
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