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Since the return of the eUSA Forums they have been one busy place. The two most active threads have concerned the censuring of and the removal of or the addition of a citizen to the Blacklist.
Removal From Blacklist of DMV3
[DISCUSSION] Censure of Pfeiffer
Both of these citizens left America, one because he had been blacklisted; they other left because America was wiped and no longer profitable to him. Both of these citizens became politically active in their adopted countries, one became CP and led his country in a war to reclaim Canadian core regions occupied by America; the other became a PP, 2 term Congress Member and FA Officer who then fought for the enemy in a critical battle against an American Ally in an American core region.
Both of these citizen worked tirelessly for America previous to leaving, one left because he was blacklisted; the other left for profit. For me this has never been about money or damage, it is about loyalty. One demonstrated his loyalty to America and to his adopted country, while the other demonstrated his loyalty to himself. One has come to Congress to ask for his citizenship to be returned, the other refused to even fill out the forms and rammed his citizenship through via back channels without any conversation in Congress.
My opinion is I would rather support a citizen who openly ask Congress to be allowed to return to America, rather than support a citizen who feels he doesn't owe Congress any explanation of his crimes; one who stroked his way back to America in the backrooms of Congress. Support a citizen who led a war to reclaim his adopted countries core regions, yet stopped short of fighting on American soil, rather than one who deliberately fought for the enemy in a core American region.
As always I am not asking you to take my opinion as gospel, read those threads and think for yourself; do we want leaders who show loyalty to their country or ones who care only about themselves and their profit?
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Comments
Pertamaxxx
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I can not say that I know exactly what the situation is,I have been reading the discussion threads on the US forum about both though, but since it seems like Pfeiffer's situation might be too late to deal with (as of him becoming a citizen), we might as well forgive, but not forget. Profit is a powerful motivator, so as long as we make sure that there is profit his loyalty can be expected then. When times are tough, simply make sure to not give him too much to carry off.
Why not have both of them write up a public apology that includes a denouncement of their actions and the affiliations with their former countries? This shows that they're sorry (or at least say so) and would make it difficult to do it again in those countries once they see they've been denounced. Why would those countries welcome back a ping pong ball with obviously (completely) uncertain loyalties?
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I like this so long as DMV receives his citizenship, is removed from the Blacklist and not censured....
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/good-bye1-2417569/1/20#comments
Pfeiffer is a traitor who left BEFORE America got wiped. In fact he helped wipe America by fighting in the UK against the U.S. I told him as much when i noticed him moved. It's not like he left for a job to a neutral country to survive. Let me repeat ... HE HELPED WIPED AMERICA. At best he's a mercenary.
Pfeiffer. Did. Not. Fight. Against. The. US.
yes he did. He even admitted as much when i talked to him. He shrugged it off as no big deal.
You have the timing wrong and some other inaccuracies. Just saying.
So much wrong here.
DMV got blacklisted, by his own request, after leaving the eUS and joining Canada. He then personally led a war of attrition against the America as the President of Canada. DMV was blacklisted by congress overwhelmingly.
Pfeiffer was approved by the Director of IES to receive citizenship. Congress had no say in the matter because IES deals with citizenship requests approvals.
So what's the precedent here? From your post it sounds like DMV should be censured, and by that standard so should Pfeiffer.
It seems like even with widely varying degrees between their actions, both still acted against the interests of America at least at one point. If that is the case, should they not both at the very least be censured?
And in the case of Pfeiffer's citizenship, maybe in the future important people who leave the eUS for reasons besides obligation get put on a list of notables so that if they do try to return their citizenship becomes a congressional issue. With such a polarizing citizen who has influence it seems like their case should be handled by a stronger body.
Not trying to be a smart@$$, just trying to get more info on the situation and come up with helpful ideas.
I dearly hope you aren't implying that Congress is "a stronger body", as IES at least gets work done *and* avoids acting like children.
DMV didn't leave because he was blacklisted, he asked to be blacklisted after leaving. The vote was unanimous.
DMV has always wanted drama, just like this author....
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