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Don't speak sense Crisfire

Not to seem biased, but you didn't even mention the information leaked.

I posted a screenshot of a Peace Treaty that was already making the rounds on IRC and the Community. The Polish, American, and Canadian "Congresses" had access, as well the leaderships of ONE and TEDEN. It wasn't a secret when I posted it.

I also posted a "Who we gonna NE?" post. I'm not a genius when it comes to these things (well maybe I am) but when it comes to NE's you can only pick countries you have a border with. We were touching two Non-Allies. Serbia and the UK.

We need an NE, and we were touching two non-Allied countries. I posted a screenshot of a thread that said Serbia would be more fun (obviously).

Not exactly Nuclear Secrets.

Contrast that with the fact that SAWC aka Maedoc aka MG, etc... not only went global with a completely out of context screenshot of a hypothetical situation, but he used that screenshot to try and get us kicked out of TERRA/EDEN and to get those same allies to wipe us off the map. After sharing it, he also fled the country.

The reason given for the harshness of my punishment is that they want to set a precedent for people leaking CDC and to make them stop doing it.

Logical I guess, except I wasn't a leak. The people that gave it to me were. And no one from the government up until now has even asked for those names. They were more than happy to string me up, and leave me for dead.

Ironically before this even started I offered terms for a plea deal, that everyone I shared them with thought harsh, but I would of accepted to set a standard for the future. Those terms were as follows:

3 Month ban from Congress AND President (more harsh then they gave me) during which time I would receive only "Registered user" masking on the Forums, and basic access to IRC Channels, as well as 6 months "Probation". Essentially a 50% increase in what SAWC received.

Was I too harsh on myself in that plea? Maybe, but I feel it was more than fair.

"his permanent ban will be reinstated"
'permanent' usually implies permanence...

trololololo

Confidential is confidential. It doesn't matter what it is or whether you know other people have access to it, you're not allowed to reproduce secret discussions. That's a reasonable expectation, which is a prime reason why what I think you did was wrong, the other being that it undermines the purpose of Closed Door Congress, which is why I don't think it matters whether you were a Congressman at the time or not.

Ha! What do you know? I guess I didn't need to write a novel after all. Of course, the reasoning for that was that I was hoping the Supreme Court would take the time to address the questions this case raises and not just flog Muglack. For instance, is it only screenshots that are forbidden? Does it have to be published in an article? At least we have one answer: no, you don't have to be in Congress to be punished for publishing information from Closed Door Congress. And you will be severely punished.

This sentence seems quite harsh to me. Then again, even compared to Muglack's own proposal, I look like a softy (Remember when I looked draconian for issuing 2 day bans from Congress? Good times!): 1 month forum/IRC ban, 1 additional week in Congress (which alone easily could have been his punishment if he'd been in Congress at the time and the Speaker had decided to punish him), and less if he'd given the name of the actual leaker (which I foolishly assumed was an outstanding issue being dealt with, perhaps a stumbling block in the plea deal negotiations). Oh, and a permanent ban from Closed Door Congress.

That's the one issue I don't think has been adequately addressed. Muglack has chosen to publish information from Closed Door Congress twice (for the sake of argument, just once knowingly) and this was without him even being in Congress. What can we expect from him after he's been locked out for six months?

Whos this swac your fantasizing about .

"after he's been locked out for six months?"

I'm only banned from Congress for 3 months.

2 month Forum/IRC and 3 months from Congress.

Bear in mind if I get elected President after the 2 months, but before the 3, I'll have all that access anyways. Also, being included in cabinet gets me all that delicious access as well. Once again, no ban from either of those.

People were so quick to get my congress mask they didn't even bother with the other stuff. Hell, even if they want to claim it was 5 month Congress ban (2 for everything, then 3 more Congress) it makes their sentence even more short sighted and completely erroneous.

You'll also note that it doesn't required me to relinquish my "Congressman" status for this month. Only any elections I win after the sentencing.

Ducks in a row people, ducks in a row. Maybe next time the courts will take more time worrying about what's fair and just, and not bother with settling Addy's personal vendettas.

Everyone will have their opinions but just a few facts. When SWAC was banned for theft he served about 6 months of permanent ban. He then rejoined the community. The sentence mentioned in this article is for a subsequent "leaking" offence. He was, therefore, a "repeat" offender though for a different offence. Muglack is also a "repeat" offender though for a different offence.


Too harsh? Not harsh enough? The Court will always face criticism from one side or the other. Goes with the job.

There are ways to mitigate this sentence. Publishing/commenting articles of this sort doesn't impress me as the most effective strategy.

I don't know if "contempt of court" can really be used to classify me as a repeat offender.

Theft on the other hand is a blatant act that undermines the community as a whole, leaking documents would fall under the same category, thus the "repeat".

Lessons and Takeaways from this Farce

1) Never Take the court seriously, ever. Make fun of it at every turn, and laugh in the face of it and it's rulings

2) Get Rolo to publish your Closed Door Secretz, because I'm pretty much untouchable, and I won't rat out your identity

I wanna marry my stalker

Judge dredd says don't post CDC.

EFF OFF

Next.

Why is it the longer I'm here, the more it seems that Rolo is the only one who makes any sense?

Let Muglack play if he wants to. Surely there must be a shortage of people who want to play along with this BS.

Where are the pictures of the scantaly clad women!!! Judge Judy in only a robe doesn't count!

what a bunch of fannies

How many people do you have to feed the secret information to before it becomes a crime? 5? 10?

This is crap. Everyone knows that info leaks from closed door congress all of the time.

oh to be a fly on the wall.

Seems to have a point.