Reshuffling the deck: eSerbia and eGreece allies?

Day 724, 07:55 Published in Serbia Greece by Che Greco

A big thank you to my friend Aleksandar Miljakovic for translating this article for me. Serbian version follows the English version.

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I am back to eSerbia for another article. This article is thoughts based on an article written by Zoli regarding a Slavic Orthodox Alliance.

The idea of a Slavic Orthodox alliance has been out there for longer than some people might think. I know Greece thought about it back when we were a 1 region nation and PEACE was the reason our nation was gone, while ATLANTIS was too busy helping Romania conquer the then known world to give a about us. But then slowly Croatians, Americans and eventually other former ATLANTIS countries came to help liberate us while Huns and Turks came to your aid so the idea slowly faded. But recently the idea has been resurfaced. Zoli wrote an interesting article detailing how such an alliance would work and its effects on the entire New World. There are many issues to consider on all sides that would potentially be involved but here I will focus on Serbian-Greek sides.


Trust
How can you trust members of an alliance forged from two alliances consisting of enemies? This is where Greece and Serbia become key players in a new alliance. While we can fight against each other when we are in opposite sides of the game, I don't think any Greek can betray a Serb or vice versa should they become official allies. So we would be responsible for making sure former EDEN and PEACE countries don’t screw each other over. And if they do then Greece and Serbia could make a pact to walk away together, abandoning the other members. Of course this would make us both vulnerable.Thus problems are already created before even beginning.

Serbia's role
Right now Serbia is at its prime and where has it gone? Nowhere. At your strength and numbers, Romania owned half of Asia, Indonesia was spread across 5 continents and Hungary was already controlling high resources of every kind. Should Croatians also agree to such an alliance, your current open war would allow massive land swapping perhaps reaching as far as the shores of the Belgian coast and beyond.


Regional Alliances
As Zoli states really well a Serbian Orthodox alliance will help create more regional alliances around the New World, making the game more fun for everyone. With the new MPP rules the game officially turns from a strategy game to a war game. Therefore, the creation of regional alliances would finally put an end to superpower vs superpower where the game merely becomes nothing more than a swinging pendulum where one side wins then loses then wins then zzzzzzzzzzz. I'm bored already.

So there is no reason why an enemy alliance cannot become a friend when help is needed. For example, say Serbia reaches the shores of the English Channel. Why not a combined attack on UK from US and Serbia? And should it succeed then why shouldn’t US and Serbia go one on one on the British isles. Sure it's longshot idea but it's based on a longshot theory.


The Reality
This idea ranges from impossible to barely possible. When my very good friend aveSERBIA and I jokingly discussed this recently he asked me a question I had trouble answering: If Greece cannot make peace with Turkey in this game how do you expect Croatia to make peace with Serbia? And this question can be applied to all members of such a newly forged alliance.

Russia vs US would cause a problem for us. Romania vs Hungary would create a problem for you and any attack on a Scandinavian region would also create problems for all EDEN nations. Many might also point to the UK's treachery but this would be something different as there would be an understanding with all members and their current allies should this idea ever come to fruition. Also, as a former PEACE nation ourself we have been in this situation before. Romania in the past had PTOed us and robbed us blind. But they also have done the most damage after us in our Greece vs Turkey war proving they are a more than worthy ally.

To sum up, a Slavic Orthodox Alliance is an idea that I neither support nor discard. It is an idea that I am sure many Greeks and Serbians support but It is quite far-fetched and reshuffling the deck at this point would be the equivalent of starting the game from scratch.

Of course in the land of the headless chicken anything is possible, right?

Thanks for reading and I appreciate all votes, subscriptions and, more importantly, comments.

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Preispitivanje trenutnog statusa: eSrbija i eGrcka saveznici?

Vratio sam se u srbiju u cilju pisanja novog clanka. Ovaj clanak je napisan kao odgovor na Zoli-jev clanak o Slovensko-Pravoslavnom saveznistvu.

Ideja o stvaranju Slovensko-Pravoslavnog saveza postoji duze nego sto vecina vas misli. Znam da je Grcka razmisljala o tome kada je bila nacija sa samo jednom regijom zahvaljujuci Peacu-u, dok je Atlantis bio previse zauzet pomazuci Rumuniji da osvoji ostatak sveta. Ali tada postepeno Hrvati, Amerikanci i ostatak bivseg Atlantis-a dolaze nama u pomoc dok su se Madjarska i Turska priklonile vama cime je ova ideja polako pocela da bledi. Ali danas ta ideja ponovo isplivava na povrsinu. Zoli je napisao zanimljiv clanak obijasnjavajuci u detalje kako bi jedno takvo saveznistvo funkcionisalo i kako bi se upravo to saveznistvo odrazilo na ostatak Novog Sveta. Potencijalno postoje mnogi problemi na obe strane ali ja cu se ovde fokusirati na srpsko-grcke.

Poverenje
Kako se moze verovati clanovima jednog saveza koji je nastao spajanjem dva do tada neprijateljska saveza? Ovo je deo gde Grcka i Srbija igraju kljucnu ulogu. Iako se trenutno borimo na suprotnim stranama, ne verujem da bi ijedan Grk izdao Srbina ili obrnuto u slucaju da zvanicno postanemo saveznici. Time bi odgovornost da bivse clanice Eden-a i Peace-a ne prevare jedni druge pala na nas. Ali u slucaju da to urade Grcka i Srbija bi mogle da naprave pakt da izadju iz tog hipotetickog saveza zajedno, napustajuci ostale zemlje clanice. To bi naravno obe zemlje ucinilo ranjivim. Kao sto vidite problemi nastaju i pre samog pocetka.

Uloga Srbije
Trenutno je Srbija na vrhuncu svoje moci, ali to je nicemu nije odvelo. Sa vasom snagom i mnogoljudnoscu Rumunija je vec bila posedovala pola Azije, Indonezija se prostirala na 5 kontinenata a Madjarska je bila u posedu svih high resource regija. Da li bi Hrvatska takodje bila saglasna sa takvim saveznistvom? Trentuno vas otvoreni rat bi omogucio razmene teritorija otvarajuci vam put do obala Belgije, pa cak i dalje.

Regionalna Saveznistva
Kao sto je Zoli spomenuo Srpsko Pravoslavno Saveznistvo bi omogucilo stvaranje drugih regionalnih saveznistva na Novom Svetu, cineci tako igru zanimljivijom za sve. Sa novim MMP pravilima igra se zvanicno preobratila iz strategijske u ratnu igru. Upravo zbog toga, stvaranje novih regionalnih saveznistava bi konacno okoncalo borbe izmedju supersila koje su napravile od sveta klackalicu gde jedna strana dobija, pa gubi, pa opet dobija zzzzz, vec sam se smorio.

Tako da nema razloga zasto suprotstavljeni savezi ne bi mogli postati prijateljski nastrojeni kada im je potrebna pomoc. Na primer, recimo da Srbija dospe do obala Lamansa. Zasto ne bi doslo do kombinovanog napada Srbije i SAD-a na UK? U slucaju da uspe zasto se Srbija i SAD ne bi borili jedan na jedan na Britanskim ostrivma? Naravno ovo je sve na duze staze, ali je i zasnovno na takvoj teoriji.


Stvarnost
Ova ideja se nalazi negde izmedju nemoguceg i tesko ostvarivog. Kada smo moj dobar prijatelj aveSERBIA i ja diskutovali o ovome, on mi je postavio pitanje na koje nisam mogao da mu dam odgovor: "Ako Grcka ne moze da se pomiri sa Turskom u ovoj igri, kako ocekujes da to Srbija ucini sa Hrvatskom?" Ovo isto pitanje moze biti postavljeno svim clanicama ovog novo skovanog saveznistva.

Rusija i SAD nama predstavljaju problem(Grckoj), Rumunija i Madjarska vama (Srbiji). Bilo kakav napad na Skandinaviju bi takodje napravio prbolem svim clanicama EDEN-a. Vecina bi takodje ukazala na izdaju Engleske, ali ovo bi bilo malo drugacije jer bi postojao sporazum medju svim clanovima njihovog trenutnog saveznistva u slucaju da ova ideja uspe. Takodje kao bivsa Peace nacija bili smo u istoj situaciji. Rumunija nas je u proslosti PTO-ovala i pokrala, ali oni su takodje nacinili najvise stete posle nas u Tursko-Grckom ratu dokazujuci da su vise nego koristan saveznik.

Da rezimiram, Slovensko-Pravoslavno Saveznistvo je ideja koju ja ni ne podrzavam ni ne odbacujem. Ovo je ideja za koju sam siguran da je mnogi Grci i Srbi podrzavaju ali je tesko ostvariva. Preispitivanje trenutnog statusa u ovom trenutku bi bilo isto kao i pocinjati igru iz pocetka.

Naravno u zemlji bezglave kokoske sve je moguce, zar ne?

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