Referendum
The Irish Community
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This is a Referendum for Irish Citizens to determine whether Ireland will Stay in EDEN or Leave EDEN.
Any decision to either join or leave an alliance is a huge step for any country and should not be taken lightly.
What has brought us to the stage where we hold a referendum on our alliance membership?
For the past number of months our alliance(EDEN) has been destabilised by the arrival of Turkey and the departure of Bulgaria. For many people in Ireland, Bulgaria was counted as one of our best allies and brothers. Bulgaria did not want Turkey in EDEN as they considered them as an enemy. Turkey had in highly controversial fashion been granted a 1 month trial, which was a status that no other country had ever been granted in EDEN. We supported Bulgaria at summits in every way we could throughout all the bitter disputes between themselves and EDEN HQ. Ireland faced a lot of criticism as this situation worsened and eventually came to a head with the removal of the Supreme Commander of EDEN at the time, a vote to end Turkey's status as a trial member, the overturning of that vote the next day and then the departure of Bulgaria from the alliance. Many once friendly faces began making negative and insulting comments in the Irish media because of our support for Bulgaria which exacerbated the situation and led to a feeling of disconnect between Ireland and the rest of the alliance. Last month some(a very small percentage of) citizens from Turkey and Greece fought against Ireland in battles. Some Irish citizens retaliated and fought against Turkey and Greece in battles. This has not happened again since then, however a certain level of disconnect from the alliance has remained for Ireland and led Ireland to question whether it supports the direction that EDEN is now going in.
What was Ireland's position in EDEN before this?
Ireland has been full members of EDEN for over a year and trial members for 6 months before that. Ireland stayed loyal to EDEN throughout good and bad and remained proud members of the alliance in the name of brotherhood. During the 6 month trial Ireland worked very hard for the alliance. Ireland had for a long long time been a pro-EDEN country and had always co-operated in any possible way to help EDEN. Deep friendships with Croatia, Canada and USA made EDEN the natural choice for Ireland. Ireland's loyalty was repaid many times over by our brothers in EDEN on our battlefields. We held an equal status to every other member and due to the active leaders of our country held influence in the alliance beyond anything that a country as small as ours would usually manage to attain. All of our victories and defeats, triumphs and failures happened shoulder to shoulder with friends in EDEN. Our longest standing ally Croatia(EDEN members) time and time again have shown up to fight for Ireland when it was needed the most. In Ireland's time in EDEN and for a long time before that in the Brolliance, the e-Canadian(EDEN) community and the e-Irish community have for a long time mixed with each other and co-operated more closely than possibly any other 2 nations in the game. After Ireland joined EDEN as full members good relations were fostered with countries like Bulgaria(ex-EDEN) and later Greece(EDEN) which led to Ireland bedding into the alliance and becoming an example of what could be achieved when the true spirit of Brotherhood is respected.
What happens if we stay in EDEN?
If Ireland stays in EDEN we will remain as full members with all the rights we have always had there. We would more than likely not be able to sustain our MPP with our friends in Bulgaria for much longer. We could possibly stay on respectful terms with Bulgaria. We could possibly try to change the things that we believe are wrong with the alliance and help restore a sense of brotherhood and decency(something Ireland has always tried to protect) as this is something that has undoubtedly been undermined recently. However if these issues are not addressed then the disillusionment that Ireland has had with the attitudes in EDEN will more than likely remain if not get worse.
What happens if we leave EDEN?
If Ireland leaves EDEN then our future becomes rather uncertain. There would probably be other opportunities for us due to our friendship with Bulgaria with a possible new alliance being formed including Ireland. However, as has already been proven by the MPPs that Bulgaria now has, we could be in a position where we would need to sign MPPs with ONE nations. We would likely be welcomed as a new ally by most of these nations. This would mean leaving all our old friends behind and destroying relations and creating hostilities with long standing friends such as Croatia, Canada and USA with the latter 2 of those being nations we border. There may also be other options such as neutrality but this would probably weaken our position on the world stage.
Can we stay allied to both EDEN and Bulgaria?
Very unlikely. eRepublik is a bi-polar game. For all intents and purposes there are only 2 sides. Ireland either has to be on one side or the other, or else choose neutrality.
Ireland is currently allied to EDEN and Terra who form one side.
On the other side is ONE and other smaller alliances such as ABC and EPIC.
If Ireland leave EDEN, a new alliance that would include Bulgaria and Ireland would also likely be on the side of ONE, ABC and EPIC.
Rules for Voting
- Only Votes from Irish Citizens of at least a Level of 24 will be counted.
- Votes must be sent to the Community Org via Private Message.
- Voting will last for a period of 48 hours from the release time of this article. Any votes submitted after 12:30 eRep Time on Day 1,608 will not be counted.
Title of your Private Message should be "Referendum" and the only text in your message should be either-
Stay in EDEN
or
Leave EDEN
Votes will be counted by Ministers of Community, James Keiller and Patrick O'Leary.
Make sure to use your vote on this very important matter
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Comments
Voted. Not fair, non-eIrish can't vote. ;-;
I will vote to stay in eden
I could never fight against the likes of croatia or usa etc!
v
Hmmm... I will consider.
voted to stay in eden
voted and voted : )
Nope you idiot, we never fought against EDEN countries, have you ever seen eIrish avatars fighting against EDEN? No, you didn't. So shut the fuck up you turkish asslicker.
Dubrovnik so long as we don't act like the likes of you then I think we can hold our head high.
You have full respect from Bulgaria, doesn't matter if you are in EDEN or not !
raster i asked whats next step?
im not turksih a**licker... even ur president was tanking against eden last month
s + v
The sadest part is whatever we decide we lose. In one hand bulgarians, and their friendship in other hand our best friend from beginings of this game Croatia, Usa, canada.I think that choice is obvious Eden,If we join Pro-One alliance that will be death penalty for us. Our friends are all in Eden.Bulgarians are been good friend and they still are but we choose side a long time ago when we decide to be pro-eden country 🙂
HAIL BROTHERHOOD
this referendum is a right decision
c'mon Ireland we have cookies
@Dubrovnik 1919 You havnt a clue tbh bro. Leave politics to the big boys
😁 what he said
You have fullr espect of Chile also in this matter
even if you stay or not in EDEN!
When Ireland was fighting against Alfagrem and Brits, I remember ONLY Croats and Greeks helping you, even if their very own countries were occupied. Bulgaria was having vacation at ABC countries by then.
Just a reminder about "best allies" and so.
Irish_Rebel_Reborn +1
And Dubrovnik, about next step - you'll see it for yourself after referendum results.
ok whatever u decide ill support you, because i love irealand in this game... just wanna tell you this referendum hurts me and probably many other croats..
have a nice day
and clairvoyant +1
and guys one more thing, if u keep listening ppl like raster soon u will be proONE thats sad thing ...
I think the best thing to do is to ignore ALL of these comments.
Stay
Bulgaria o7
Chile o7
Ireland o7
Hail Ireland o7
Hail Bulgaria o7
You have full respect from Bulgaria, doesn't matter if you are in EDEN or not !
+1
It would really make me sad to see Ireland leave EDEN. Good luck in what ever you decide to do! o7
People like me - what we are, idiots? Betrayers? Have I ever said HAIL ONE or such thing? Jesus, stop trolling and get a life, if eIreland choose to stay in EDEN, I will respect her decision, because eIreland is important, not me. My opinion about EDEN is simply mine, and I won't make pressure on anyone.
interesting
good luck ppl and have fun after all, this is only game
When Ireland was fighting against Alfagrem and Brits, I remember ONLY Croats and Greeks helping you, even if their very own countries were occupied. Bulgaria was having vacation at ABC countries by then.
Just a reminder about "best allies" and so. +1
and to imagine all started from this guy
http://www.erepublik.com/gr/article/flausino-went-shopping--2007425/1/20
IBhoy +1.
Let Ireland decide its fate. Their citizens don't need to be reminded of 'consequences' by anyone else. This article does it better than anything. Trust me, as a nation in a similar situation as yours, its as if I'm looking at a mirror when I see this article.
Respect.
o7
Stay in EDEN with our brothers in Croatia, USA, and many others who have stood by us consistently. Even if our brothers in Bulgaria join ONE, then we can still abstain from fighting battles against them. We had a friendship with Poland long ago, and it was sad to see them join our enemies with ONE. But we had to let it happen.
Croatia, Canada, and a few other nations have always been our most supportive alliances. We cannot leave them.
We can certainly keep a civil friendship with Bulgaria even if we can't sign an alliance treaty with them.
you should stick together with bulgaria 🙂
Def stay in EDEN. It troubles me deeply that many EDEN leaders did not respect the wishes of our Bulgarian brothers with regard to Turkey and we should not take that lightly, but at the same time our friendship with nations such as Croatia and Canada and USA run AT LEAST as deep as Bulgaria and they have come to our aid more times than I can count. I could never fight against such long-time brothers over what may yet prove to be just one isolated incident.
If such behavior becomes a pattern, however, I don’t think it would be unjustified to rethink our position. Glad to see our government keeping our options open just in case. No loyalty to any alliance, no matter how well-earned in the past, should be completely unconditional in the present.
For now, though, I hope that this referendum will prove to EDEN that the Irish population is still overwhelmingly pro-EDEN.
You have full respect from Bulgaria, doesn't matter if you are in EDEN or not ! +1
We will understand if you stay in Eden. Think carefull and choose just the best for your eCountry : )
You have full respect from Bulgaria, doesn't matter if you are in EDEN or not !
+2
Why not make it a public vote? :😁
You have full respect from Bulgaria, doesn't matter if you are in EDEN or not !
@Sirbeg why do you want a public vote?
ireland stay in eden
i don't know what irish people thinks of eden but the irish government and irish cp is clearly pro one. they (especially the mu called irish citizen army) have been fighting against us for months now. obviously they started this unnecessary referandum hoping that people would vote for leaving eden.
good luck anyway.
as u keep fighting against us last months sevisenturk 🙂
It's great to be Irish, because it ain't so much what we choose to do, but more the fact that we actually have a choice. This is good governance at the highest level, and it also means that recriminations will be minimal.
However, I do think that people should refrain from indicating how or who we should vote for.
@sevisenturk
How the f*ck am I pro-ONE? I've done more for EDEN than you or anyone else in your country ever have.
I am also commander of ICA and there have never been ICA orders to fight against Turkey. I have never fought against Turkey, cept way back when you were fighting against EDEN. ICA as a group has fought for EDEN for longer than anyone in your country.
GTFO with your lies, we don't need them here.
@columbia
i personally never fought against ireland and those who did, started doing it after your actions. we never had any quarrel with you even before we joined eden. i understand your relations with bulgaria but that doesn't mean you should become enemies with us. ireland is not acting like a free country but a bulgarian vassal.
Bulgarian vassal? OMG HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA
Stay in EDEN.
trololololololo sevisenturk
after what actions of us?you were trial member and u fought against ireland and when i was cp i never approached any ONE country and never gave orders to fight against Turkey and my whole e-life i was fighting and i will keep fighting against ONE so as Ibhoy said
GTFO with your lies, we don't need them here.