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Questions & mythbusting about the referendum

Day 1,894, 01:13 by Brian Boru


There seems to be a lot of wild opinion going around about the CoT referendum, particularly my place in organising it and my opinion as to its result. As such, I am going to address some of these myths and take questions in this article.

Myth No.1: "Brian Boru is pro-Circle of Trust"

I am not pro-CoT. I view their members nations much as many of our citizens do. Some are dear friends. Others are former enemies. The latter makes me as uneasy as any of us.

But the fact of the matter is this. Ireland has no alliance. For two months or longer, the Circle of Trust has been promoted as the alliance of choice in this country by quite a few. The lack of action on this matter by the previous administration did nothing to help us, and now we are caught between new friends and old friends.

We had to have the referendum. I could not leave this term without an answer for this question, a question that has now burned us.

The time to make a decision has come. Which leads me to the second myth.

Myth No.2: "It's been rushed" or "People are too uninformed"

As I have said, the debate on this has lasted for two months. Besides that fact, the time to decide has essentially been pushed forward thanks to developments in diplomacy, including the success of negotiations and the war currently ongoing.

As for people being uninformed, for newer players this is understandable perhaps. For everyone else, it is not. Two months of debate, a week's notice to the Senate for the date of the referendum, two days for campaign articles, a clear set of facts on what the deal means. The government's job in this case is to give the facts, that has been done.

That said, I am happy to expand on the facts by request.

If new players have any questions, post them below. I will answer them to the best of my ability. For specific information on the Circle of Trust, look here.

Myth No.3 "Asgard wasn't considered"

To bust this myth, I enclose a message from the President of Finland.
"I see still see Ireland as a potential member of Asgard in the future if that's something you want. I guess the result of your referendum will decide the path you are going to take. Of course, governments change and the people in charge may have different views of these questions. However, as said Asgard most likely won't be expanding anymore during my term."

While this message came after the announcement of the referendum, it was well known to my government and I that this was the attitude of Asgard for quite a while. The resentment of the Swedes over previous events hasn't died down either, to make matters more complicated.

Asgard was never an option this month. It may be an option later, but we cannot predict when.

Questions:
If you wish to ask a question about the referendum, please ask below.
 

Comments

Viktor Kurgan
Viktor Kurgan Day 1,894, 01:23

A simple question:
Will you show open voting results with names connected to a vote or will yoe forge the result with a few "trustworthy" vote counters?
There is no need for secrecy and there is no trust left.

Brian Boru
Brian Boru Day 1,894, 01:26

Viktor, anonymous voting is the keystone of democracy. I have no interest in screwing with the votes to begin with, either from a political point of view or a personal one.

I'm not going to let you or anyone else bully people who voted ways you didn't like.

End of story.

stpolar
stpolar Day 1,894, 01:27

Well, we can wait to be bros again Ireland next month

Hail Asgard!

http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/hi-spain-welcome-to-canada--2199673/1/20

BTW today we defeated Spain in Manitoba and are just inches away from freeing Portugal. All with the coordination of Asgard.

If you folks we'd really appreciate every damage you can muster here:

"Help Portugal. We need you now !
http://www.erepublik.com/en/military/battlefield/37921
Supplies on: #ECan.supply "

Viktor Kurgan
Viktor Kurgan Day 1,894, 01:36

In your last article everybody agreed for open results in comments.
And cut the crap you corrupted puppet!
Its clear you are about to forge this referendum, lie about the votes and force this land into CoT.

OPEN VOTING RESULTS YOU CHEAP SCAMMER!

Brian Boru
Brian Boru Day 1,894, 01:38

Haha, if that's your opinion, I look forward to seeing your comments when the actual results come out.

Viktor Kurgan
Viktor Kurgan Day 1,894, 01:42

If i am going to bully someone it will be you Boru for foging referendum result and therefore becoming a traitor and a scammer.
Like your friend Ibhoy....its cler were your loyalty lies...and its not Ireland.
OPEN VOTING RESULTS!

Brian Boru
Brian Boru Day 1,894, 01:45

Viktor, the day you could bully me into doing anything is not coming.

Greater men than you have tried and failed.

Viktor Kurgan
Viktor Kurgan Day 1,894, 01:47

Not an opinion but the fact this country has been scammed by "respectable" citizens too many times.
Asgard, CoT....i dont give a shit..
I demand open voting results regardless.

Brian Boru
Brian Boru Day 1,894, 01:52

Then allow me to give you a pleasant surprise by not scamming the country.

God forbid a President might actually value the opinion of the citizens. Or worse, the President might need to find out what level of support for joining an alliance would be in order to make the responsible decision.

Not only do I have no motivation in screwing with the results, but doing so would actually hurt both myself and Ireland. I have no desire to be remembered as a President who started a civil war because the country joined an alliance that its citizens didn't want to be part of.

Death and Taxes
Death and Taxes Day 1,894, 01:53

Brian, the individual you are conversing with is of no material value to eIreland and the world in general. So I would just ignore him like I do, it's all down to a hyperactive attention seeking gene. In other news, the referendum seems proper and fair, there was a 'referendum' in India about leaving EDEN some time ago which while correct, was formatted in such a way as to make it a joke. Names were released in that referendum, without previous acknowledgement that they would be doing so - and this has had far-reaching effects.

As you were

Brian Boru
Brian Boru Day 1,894, 01:54

Regardless of his own value, his questions/demands require answers nonetheless. Though I have no intention of repeating myself beyond this

Viktor Kurgan
Viktor Kurgan Day 1,894, 01:58

I destroyed your precious ICA.....for a year i was the only one in Ireland fighting against bullies and scammers of ibhoys mafia familly while everybody else were hiding in their holes before them.
Dont tell me what i cant.
I only bully the bullies Boru. Never the innocent.
And i dont have to bully you into anything.
If you refuse to show open results you will prove me right you being a hack and a traitor.

And i will only spend eternity reminding everyone about that.

Brian Boru
Brian Boru Day 1,894, 02:01

Please do spend eternity reminding everyone about that, you are the John Waters of eIreland.

Viktor Kurgan
Viktor Kurgan Day 1,894, 02:09

Death and Taxes formerly known as Malbekh....you just made me very important you tool.
You not having a single argument against mine decided to use ICA favourite defence.
I am citizen of Ireland.
That makes me a thousand times more important then you...indian.
And unlike you i have no history of being a puppet and framing people.

I ask for a little honesty and that bothers you Malbekh?
You are not able to say hello to someone without hidden agenda.

Viktor Kurgan
Viktor Kurgan Day 1,894, 02:41

And Malbekh can you share with this us why are you always against fair play?
Why you soooo againt clear accounts?
Does honesty makes you soooooo angry?

You are like a little shadow elf....always plotting and making dirty conspiracies.
And the worst part you are not smart enough to do it right.
From all the kunts you decided to frame Marcus..the only one of them who would never plunder.
BSBM, Padraig, Sweet, Conway...so many names you tool.

And the only one proven thief Conway....you defended him! How stupid that is? Are you even aware?

Malbekh..you together with moo attacked me coz of my fight for free Dublin....you openly support IBhoy's treason when he sold Dublin to Brits and even bragging about that.

Yes..you are very important person...in the world of treason, framing and theft....

I would bet my immortal life you took a big chunk of stolen state money.....

Boru...you clearly don't know me and how i entertain myself...eternity will not be enough...

MR. HANK SCORPIO
MR. HANK SCORPIO Day 1,894, 02:50

Brian youre being trolled by Kurgan.

Viktor Kurgan
Viktor Kurgan Day 1,894, 02:56

CoT or not is irrelevant in this story Boru.

Its about serious lack of trust in anyone here.
We have been pludered and betrayed too many times.

Nothing personal Boru but its not just me.....check comments from your last referendum article.
People of Ireland wants open result!
They are tired of manipulations.

And don't use me as excuse...i never bullied humans for their free will and free choice.

When libertad leadership betrayed me and backstabbed me coz i was trying to uphold thier own fking rules many libertad members left me and joined new fake Libertad: Gromley, Ronan, Colby..etc....

Did you see me bullying them for that? No.
Not even a slight buthurt...coz they chose what was best for them.

The core of The Word is free will and free will is sacred.

But it seems likes of you Boru, just like Malbekh hates when you can't manipulate humans and forge facts in your benefits.

Again....i am not whining coz of CoT or Asgard but for open and honest work.
There is apsolutely no reason to hide who vote for what in any referendum or poll.
This hidden work only helps spineless cowards and Ireland will never prosper with them...

Viktor Kurgan
Viktor Kurgan Day 1,894, 02:58

Hank...step in my train....i am sure i will find room for you...

Brian Boru
Brian Boru Day 1,894, 03:03

Hank, the newer players probably don't know that

Viktor Kurgan
Viktor Kurgan Day 1,894, 03:15

Am i trolling Boru?

Is this how you call when someone demands fair play and open accounts?

If you think irish people have no right to decide their destiny then just say it.....

Death and Taxes
Death and Taxes Day 1,894, 04:06

I agree with Hank. I think you should spend as little time on this as possible.

Viktor Kurgan
Viktor Kurgan Day 1,894, 04:26

Yes malbekh...forging things takes a lot of time and you know more about forging thing more then anyone here.

And can you answer my question malbekh?
Why you against fair play and open accounts?

You can't answer malbekh?
scared?

Paddy OBrien
Paddy OBrien Day 1,894, 07:15

Kurgan, do you realize you're not helping anything here? You are more than welcome to express your opinions, but you are blocking the intent of the post, which was to be able to help newer members with questions.

How about making an article with your thoughts and opinions and putting it up for folks, so this one can go back to what it was intended?

Viktor Kurgan
Viktor Kurgan Day 1,894, 07:22

Why even bother with questions when referendum results will be framed?
For CoT or against.
The only quetion here is can we afford to trust some "respectable and trustworthy" vote counters?
We can't.
This is ireland...a land of brave who are not scared and ashamed of their choices.
OPEN REFERENDUM RESULTS!
Nothing more..nothing less....only traitors and scammers like Mlabekh or Boru are against the truth...

Sean MacDiarmata
Sean MacDiarmata Day 1,894, 07:27

Voted

MR. HANK SCORPIO
MR. HANK SCORPIO Day 1,894, 08:03

Damhnaic seems trustworthy to me.

Releasethe Krakken
Releasethe Krakken Day 1,894, 08:22

our alliance is apparent and a no brainer. as to canada and the us they are more or less in the same boat as us with no NE's for months on a end. We should join poland that would mean only 1 MPP per month being poland and then daily wars as they fight every day and is usually close by. it would save our county shitloads and then offer a daily battle to boot easily.

Paddy OBrien
Paddy OBrien Day 1,894, 08:22

If everything is conspiracy, and everything is rigged, unless you personally approve of it, why are you here at all?

Damhnaic
Damhnaic Day 1,894, 09:13

Seriously, anyone doubt my integrity? For those having short term memory I would like to remember you that I hate CoT as much as I hate EDEN and ASGARD. For those having short them memory I want to remembr that I hate kunts as much as I hate PTOing (you can look in old kunts article, you'll see me flaming them, and you should remember our old PM against them Kurgan).

Now, some says that I am a hypocrit and dishonest citizen, and I am very hurted by this. I have always been the one working a lot on the DoC for all of eIrish citizens, this often without recognition. I've held numerous contests and polls where I disvalued my personnal opinion and kept integrity (Really, I didn't want MUFC and his bullying to win citizen awards, but I let him win because I am honest and always been). In recent affairs, I was said to be the "kunts lawyer" in the PTO affairs. This is entirely not truth and I had no friendly relations with them on the matter only EMPATHY Which is something everyone should have even in disregard of past struggle. Empathy for what? Empathy for being victims of unethical behavior, but you can be reassured I won't defend them when they'll be the one bullying others.

difference between you all and me i s that i owe loyalety to no political parties has I find them all pityfull and insignificant. So you might accuse me of changing sides, I will alsways defend the oppressed without regard to past deeds. But you can't accuse me of being not trustworthy. On the basis of such accusation, I am refusing the job of MoC for further terms until excuses from the accusers.

AppleMan
AppleMan Day 1,894, 09:19

Jeysus, what happened to the Ministry of Silence?
Let's reinstitute that asap.

Brian Boru
Brian Boru Day 1,894, 12:26

^ I tried to, he wouldn't accept.

Death and Taxes
Death and Taxes Day 1,894, 12:54

Let's be clear on one thing. I would suck the toes off Marcus and friends before I had anything to do with you know who.

Viktor Kurgan
Viktor Kurgan Day 1,894, 13:14

But you do suck Malbekh...and its not toes you suck....

Damhnaic....i had no idea who would count votes and i was talikng about anyone on that position.
Too many "honest" humans betrayed this country and we can't afford to trust one or few person even if that is you.
You feel buthurt? Ireland is more important then your hurt in the butt...

Viktor Kurgan
Viktor Kurgan Day 1,894, 14:20

Apple..not so long ago you had a chance to silent Kurgan by paying certain ammount of money to irish community...
And i would be silent for the time depending on how much money was gathered.
Only few cc was collected so its clear Ireland wants me loud.....

Viktor Kurgan
Viktor Kurgan Day 1,894, 14:58

Boru i offered you to be minister for spiritual enlightenment and grand inquisitor.
You never answered....so it was clear instead me working on spiritual growth of irish, you wanted me here to deal with your corporeal crap.

You are welcome...

Marinko Margarin
Marinko Margarin Day 1,894, 17:51

just wondering who's counting votes
x29048094814

Damhnaic
Damhnaic Day 1,895, 23:33

Marinko, I've been monitoring each and every vote that was sent and worked in collaboration with Brian Boru to remove fake votes.

MR. HANK SCORPIO
MR. HANK SCORPIO Day 1,895, 04:18

Damhnaic you really shouldn't take Kurgan so seriously. I was told all about him when I rejoined.
He is a troll, PTO'er and attention seeker. Ignoring him is the best thing to do.

Don't resign. Everyone worth something in our community has supported you in this article. I'd say, given the resources available to you, you did your job as good as Donut did it back in her prime.

Marinko Margarin
Marinko Margarin Day 1,895, 05:56

Thanks for your response Damhnaic... I hope so that just 2 of you really did this job :]

Viktor Kurgan
Viktor Kurgan Day 1,897, 06:58

Hank so according to you i should be in kunts then...

 
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