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President Jacobi Ignores Congress, Supreme Court in Fresh Scandal
President Jacobi Ignores Congress, Supreme Court in Fresh Scandal
Several days ago President Jacobi not only ignored but overruled without vote Congress’s long standing decision to revoke Dean22’s citizenship and forum access. It was said that only Congress could overturn it’s own decision and over several months votes have been taken to do so and all have resulted with Congress unwilling to change it’s stance. The case was first heard but the Supreme Court but a decision could not be reached.
For those of you who are not aware of what Dean22 did to earn this revoking of citizenship I will explain here from the court proceedings. As per the words of Augustus Baldwin who led up the Prosecution.
http://ecanada.forumotion.com/congress-discussion-f14/we-never-did-offically-revoke-dean22-s-citizenship-did-we-t560.htm?sid=8b6f812dd094815548fea7146f6df726
“While Canada was at war with France Dean22 was Defense Minister, besides refusing to hand out supplies to our soldiers he also left Canada with the Defense OA and went to Russia. There he ran for Russian Congress while still a Minister of the Canadian government, he also transferred a significant amount of items and funding from our Defense OA to his own company and to the Russian forces fighting against our ally Romania. Dean then apparently asked John Wilkmot for more money for the Defense OA, which John smartly refused. I eventually discovered all this and Dean was subsequently thrown out of of Canada and John had to trick him into giving back our Defense OA, which was completely empty”
During the recent elections the experienced and expected winner Alexander Rearden lost to Jacobi because of news of several scandals just before the election. These scandals were raised by one Dean22. Shortly after newly elected President Jacobi quietly ordered forum administrator Cesar Augustus to restore Dean22’s forum citizenship without vote or public statement or order. Is this a case of “I’ll scratch your back if you scratch mine?” It most certainly is. President Jacobi went above congress in restoring the citizenship of Dean22, a felon in eCanada, and did so as reward for slandering Presidential Candidate and Jacobi rival Alexander Rearden ensuring a win for Jacobi.
As citizens in a democratic eCanada we cannot allow our President to reward criminals with citizenship because they provided a dirty service. Congress has repeatedly voted against restoring Dean22’s citizenship for a reason. Once more we see the accountability that Jacobi promised has been cast aside for his personal gains. Prime Minister, you campaigned on accountability but it seems you forgot to mention you meant being accountable to your friends and supporters first and Congress, the Supreme Court and the people second. If you will not, eCanada will hold you accountable for your blatant disregard for democracy and rule of law.
For Shame!
Bruck
Three Term President of eCanada
Outgoing CEP Party President
Several days ago President Jacobi not only ignored but overruled without vote Congress’s long standing decision to revoke Dean22’s citizenship and forum access. It was said that only Congress could overturn it’s own decision and over several months votes have been taken to do so and all have resulted with Congress unwilling to change it’s stance. The case was first heard but the Supreme Court but a decision could not be reached.
For those of you who are not aware of what Dean22 did to earn this revoking of citizenship I will explain here from the court proceedings. As per the words of Augustus Baldwin who led up the Prosecution.
http://ecanada.forumotion.com/congress-discussion-f14/we-never-did-offically-revoke-dean22-s-citizenship-did-we-t560.htm?sid=8b6f812dd094815548fea7146f6df726
“While Canada was at war with France Dean22 was Defense Minister, besides refusing to hand out supplies to our soldiers he also left Canada with the Defense OA and went to Russia. There he ran for Russian Congress while still a Minister of the Canadian government, he also transferred a significant amount of items and funding from our Defense OA to his own company and to the Russian forces fighting against our ally Romania. Dean then apparently asked John Wilkmot for more money for the Defense OA, which John smartly refused. I eventually discovered all this and Dean was subsequently thrown out of of Canada and John had to trick him into giving back our Defense OA, which was completely empty”
During the recent elections the experienced and expected winner Alexander Rearden lost to Jacobi because of news of several scandals just before the election. These scandals were raised by one Dean22. Shortly after newly elected President Jacobi quietly ordered forum administrator Cesar Augustus to restore Dean22’s forum citizenship without vote or public statement or order. Is this a case of “I’ll scratch your back if you scratch mine?” It most certainly is. President Jacobi went above congress in restoring the citizenship of Dean22, a felon in eCanada, and did so as reward for slandering Presidential Candidate and Jacobi rival Alexander Rearden ensuring a win for Jacobi.
As citizens in a democratic eCanada we cannot allow our President to reward criminals with citizenship because they provided a dirty service. Congress has repeatedly voted against restoring Dean22’s citizenship for a reason. Once more we see the accountability that Jacobi promised has been cast aside for his personal gains. Prime Minister, you campaigned on accountability but it seems you forgot to mention you meant being accountable to your friends and supporters first and Congress, the Supreme Court and the people second. If you will not, eCanada will hold you accountable for your blatant disregard for democracy and rule of law.
For Shame!
Bruck
Three Term President of eCanada
Outgoing CEP Party President
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yeah bruck not to mention who are you to talk about ethics when you just tried to have a party TOed?
SHAME! SHENANIGANS!*Grabs broom to wap Bruck*
The government is trying to purge its opponents. We should have realized Jacobi is just a first name. The full name is Jacobi Joseph Stalin.
As a Justice of the Supreme Court I would like to point out that the issue had been resolved by the Supreme Court. The Court reversed its decision, and citing lack of evidence in the case, dismissed it. Congress then ignored the ruling and had Dean's citizenship revoked anyway. To this date the Supreme Court has never convicted anyone, and yet Congress has revoked the citizenship of two eCanadians. The argument put forward by the defense for the government's action is that it took the form of an executive order, which now needs congressional approval.
I would also ask that all parties cease attempting to exploit the Supreme Court to publicly exact political revenge upon their enemies. If you raise an issue within the court, please save your barbs and slings until the Supreme Court has ruled on the matter, and keep your arguments in court where they belong.
In regards to the Dean vs Augustus issue, I would ask you two to show the respect for this institution and each other that is deserved. If you two want to duke it out like three year olds holding a tantrum, do so on IRC or on MSN. The Supreme Court is no place for childish antics.
The issue stalling the Supreme Court at this moment is the inactivity of Halve, the Chief Justice. The remaining Supreme Court Justices are now taking steps to rectify the issue, to name a new Chief Justice in the interim. We have contacted Jacobi about creating a deliberative chamber for the Supreme Court within the forums, and an appointment of an active replacement for Halve on the Supreme Court, to bring our number up to the required 5.
When these issues have been resolved, then the Supreme Court can rule on these issues.
Accountability.... A word that means so much and yet so little.
Burk when are you going to hold yourself responsible for AR's actions over and over seeing as you apointed him to MoF and LEFT him there even after multiple scandles and then supported this same person for president?
From everything i have seen and read it would seem Congress under your rule Burk was trying to PURGE eCanada of one of the few ppl that dared rock your pretty boat? Dean22...
If the court had ruled, congress should not have dissmissed they're ruling and revoked Dean's citizanship
If it was an executive order then it must be ratified by Congress vote or the decision will be overturned after 5 days
I would get the official Constitution section but the forum seems to be down.
Dean22 was banned far before I was President
Cypher is a government goon Bruck, pay no attention to him, he attacks you yet he doesn't even know when, why, or how Dean was banned. He thinks you did it! lol
I'd have to say the statement that Dean 22 caused Jacobi to win the election by slandering AR is a bit ludicrous. Everyone had their own reasons for voting the way they did and to say that one person caused an electoral upset is pretty silly. The other facts you bring up however are seemingly an abuse of power and must be investigated but who as the power to investigate and take action against the President except the Congress. Maybe the supreme court but by the time the case gets heard and deliberated on there'll be a new election anyway. This is definitely in their court and if they conclude wrong doing against the eCanadian people they have the power to judge. But do they have the power to enforce their judgement.
Now Burk was there not multiple votes in congress on weather or not to over turn this ruling that should never have happened? And did you over turn it? exactly my point here
No Cypher, Bruck never overturned any vote and EVERY vote ended with a supermajority voting to keep Dean22 suspended.
Wow, this Dean guys sounds like a bum. Don't give him citizenship! I shouldn't have voted for Jacobi
So burks supporters 15 everyone else that follows the law 5.... Thank god for a new government
Yes Scorpius, a Supermajority is less than 75% is it not?
Lol Cypher at the time the CSD held power in Congress, not Bruck. And everytime he voted it passed, this new government SPECIFICALLY avoided a new vote. If it was all Bruck then why do everything possible to avoid a vote?
There is a lot more to that story if you look into the case in the supreme court. That is just a brief overview of the accuser, Augustus Baldwin, without proof. If this statement was true there would be more of an uprising in congress, but there really has been no objection to this except by the former members, a.k.a Bruck, and Augustus.
How many articles has this past administration posted that is bashing Jacobi and his job so far? I advise people to make their decision not on this propaganda, but on the actual case and facts.
Perhaps due to the fact that the First Vote never should have happened. If the court made a rulling it should have stuck. just becasue congress didn't like the verdict does that mean it can go ahead and hold a vote anyways, completely ignoring the courts desission!
So your saying every time the vote was held when Burk was in power it stuck?
From my understanding again the vote was in Febuary, burk was in power from march to may... and "multiple votes" were held after the original.. would that not be while Burk was in charge?
My names Bruck
Ciphr Ral
The original vote happened while Zanalan/CSD were in power. The CSD held power in Congress when Bruck was President as well. So both Bruck and his opponents voted in favor of this several times.
Anyways, the Supreme Court is not God of the Congress. Canada has 3 equal branches of government, the Supreme Court does not have final say over everything, and Congress can get around Supreme Court deicions through legislation. The Supreme Court can rule on the consitutionality of such Congresional legislation, which it has not, becuase Jacobi and his cabinet refuse to let the legality of Jacobi's order be reviewed by the court.
Funny how that works eh? They oppose a Congressional vote on the matter, they oppose letting the Supreme Court decide if they acted illegally. What are they afraid of?
Some of us in congress are trying to have this addressed however Jacobi nor his supporters are willing to respond or take accountability for their actions.
*Gasp*
As long as they don't give Dean any position of power it'll be okay though
Two things to ask you Bruck.
Where's the password for the National Bank of Canada and where's the money you still owe the government?
This was a bad move on your part.
P.S. Gets your facts straight.
Dean22 was banned far before I was President
He was never banned according to the constitution of Canada.
yeah bruck as i said before. you are in no position to criticize. get another one of your CEP hacks who HASNT lost us hundreds of gold to do this dirty work
By the looks of it the government has no defense, everytime someone points out that they are acting illegally all they say is: "well you did this" or "you did that!"
You realize laws are laws for EVERYONE, right?
and you have yet to point out a legitimate time where we have breached a law.
The legal argument is simple.
Congress has no authority to revoke citizenship. In fact, since Reserve powers are under the purview of the President, only I may revoke citizenship.
And then, only for 14 days. After that, the constitution stipulates that one becomes a citizen.
Laws are for everyone.
Well then why don't we let the Supreme Court decide?
Whats wrong with accountability?
augustus. it is not necessary for the supreme court to decide because there is really no argument when you get down to the facts.
however if the court so chooses they can hear the case. the court isnt part of the jacobi administration and you cant blame us for their decisions
<a href="http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/the-citizen-times-interview-with-former-pm-bruck-830144/1/20" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/the-[..]/1/20</a> My interview with bruck, look it up
Funny how AB wants the court to decide, did the court not decidee Dean should not have his citzenship revoke? sure you trust them?
And burk don't bug me how you spell my name so have all the fun in the world.
But the thing is that Burk there tried to silence the fastest-growing party in Canada by TOing it then scapegoating a legitimate player.
Burkburkburkburk.
<a href="http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=3127295" target="_blank">http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php[..]27295</a>
burk is a bad bad man
The question I pose is: what has Dean22 contributed to Canada?
He's been banned since I knew about him, but that hasn't stopped him organizing strikes (read: "disruptive eRiots") and posting smear articles. I would have been more impressed if his efforts in the last campaign had been in SUPPORT of Jacobi rather than smashing the incumbent CEP and their candidate AR.
I'm actually kind of glad Dean's around; he makes the role-play element at least three times as fun by being Canada's official enemy! But in the spirit of that RP enmity, re-instating his citizenship is a bad move--especially if it was done without a full congressional vote!
I still say it's too early to start smashing Jacobi's leadership overall--he could turn out to be an awesome PM yet--but having any part in letting Dean22 back in is a bad move.
p.s. I never thought I was OCD, but if I read one more person spell Bruck's name wrong I'm gonna have a twitch for the rest of my life.
From the Nationally publicized press conference, jeeze you're irrelevant, AB
"Jacobi: And I am positive that the decision to grant him citizenship masking on the forums
will be challenged in the Supreme Court, as it should be, and that this situation will be
permanently resolved in that august Chamber as Congress and I would like."
yes, more blood!
one question, though. how does vincent valentine get to say he's a supreme court justice when he's only a level 7????? politicians need to be at a certain level, and even then it is nearly impossible to break into the old boys network. is he an older player who is starting a new account? somebody explain
he is vincent chaotic, an older player who got banned for making a multi-related mistake a while ago. he is an experienced politician
ok, so lemmie get this straight: each of the two major parties in ecanada don't trust each other and are trying to bring each other down. we have banned players making decisions in the supreme court. the hungarians are somewhere in the middle trying to take us over, and we still can't find a bunch of money/gold, etc....?
this is wayyyy too good to be true
"Where's the password for the National Bank of Canada?"
Really?
Jacobi didn't win because of the scandals. You should give Canadians a bit more credit than that. Sure, they probably helped, but Jacobi is a highly visible citizen, with great ideas and vision. He also had the endorsement of the CSD. This is a disingenuous article which smacks of desperation on the part of the CEP.
Grasping on to the scraps of the political plate, the CEP is trying to derail a Booming government as it would mean the good old boys would have to let the slaves go! Let the women Vote! And go back to being a Normal citizen! Great work Jacobi!!
DAL FTW
The Password to the National Bank of Canada was lost 3 months ago as well as the 2 gold and 4.5 CAD! Heavens no! Get over it and found a new org
Derail? hardly, I'm simply pointing out that our new President has allowed a dangerous enemy of Canada to be a citizen and has done so without the approval of Congress or the Supreme Court.
The way I understand
Congress Makes the Laws
The court interprets the laws
Congress should never have been able to revoke Deans citizenship, because that isn't their jurisdiction. Court members are chosen because they are unbiased, wise and respectful. In this way all cases are fair and square. Congress, unfortunately, suffers from bias which is why we shouldn't, and don't, have the power to interfere with the rights of our citizens.
Besides, things have gotten so much more interesting since Dean has returned why send him away?
Like i said, the congress did not get the desision they wanted so they chose to try another path to purge dean from eCanada and now it is coming to light how wrong they were!
And Burk i say derail cause again you lack any level of humbelness and instead make these comments in the form of an attack, not as a citizen offering a certain level of concern.
Face it your GOLD boy lost cause he dropped the ball and now your out too.
Jacobi keep up the great work of upholding our rights!
DAL FTW
"Court members are chosen because they are unbiased, wise and respectful."
you forgot banned
Vincent was banned for a multi he made when he began playing the game earlier. He admits to the mistake, apologized and has taken the blame. Several players have been banned, it does not, and should not make any difference weather a court member was banned or not, because Vincent along with the justices, excels in all of these traits and is a superb choice for the courts.
ya ignoring discussions with congress and doing as he wishes sure sounds like a booming government.
You would love for it to be about the cep being out to get you but how about we stop with the propaganda and deal with the issues here. This is about a government disregarding constitutional edict, bypassing congress (which is there btw to make sure there is a power check for the president so he CAN NOT do things like this), and Im also quite sure that it is the courts job to interpret laws and not the president's job.
Btw desdemona22, I would have thought you would have noticed this 5 page thread in congress since you are a congress member. I will link it to you so you can take part in all the fuss congress is making.
<a href="http://ecanada.forumotion.com/open-door-congress-f32/amendment-removal-granting-of-citizenship-t3008-80.htm#55369" target="_blank">http://ecanada.forumotion.com/open-door-[..]5369</a>
I don't care about Rearden, don't bring him up because the only answer you'll get from me is he ruined his chances at being PM. That's where my support for him ends.
The facts of this situation are that Jacobi is abusing his position as Prime Minister to further his goals and that of his lackey Dean22
This is sad guys.. Bruck one good thing was that Dean exposed flaws in Canada... and This article is bogus to me
As well Bruck let us not forget the money lost on your watch.. it adds up.
He picks and chooses which "flaws"
How can you say that Cesar Augustus when Jacobi set you up as the fall guy?
He asked you to restore citizenship to Dean and in the event things went wrong you would have been blamed for allowing it. I didn't include that in my article because I felt it would be unfair to you.
The taking of Deans citizenship was a violation of his rights, and it's restoration was the just thing to do
He violated the rights of all Canadian citizens when he stole the weapons, supplies and money held within the Canada National Defense org. All these items were paid for by the citizens of Canada and he took them and gave them to an enemy.
according to you but you are not the judge so you do not get to decide nor it Jacobi
The constitution decides
And ours isn't all that strict when it comes to citizenship
"11.2 Any player who immigrates to Canada shall be considered a Canadian Citizen after a period of 14 consecutive days of residence in Canada."
Exactly. Anyone looking at the Supreme Court thread will see that Jacobi sent Adasko and Thordan, TWO GOVERNMENT MINISTERS, to demand that the case to review his governments actions not go through.
If Jacobi really wants accountability why is he sending his men to prevent it? And if Adasko and Thordan are acting out of Jacobi's control then what does that say about him and why doesn't he demand their resignations?
We need accountability from the Jacobi regime, not backroom deals and George W. Bush-Dick Cheney style government.
Next thing you know Jacobi is going to blur his office on Google Maps and write all Cabinet posts in a secret code on he and his cronies know.
Nosyt we used the old constitution when Dean was around, your looking at the new one. The old one gave Congress the power to revoke citizenship explicity.
Yeah, Jacobi is awesome. And Dean is really cool lately too.
so Dean was not a Canadian citizen, then he moved back to Canada and claimed a new citizenship under the new law, but I suppose it's still highly debatable
The court needs to get itself reorganized ASAP lol, they picked a terrible time to suspend themselves, at least this whole thing has shown us that the court needs to make a few changes
Hang on Burk if stealing from canada means your citizenship should be revoke then why are you and AR still here? To call for Deans revoketion is to call for your own?
DAL FTW
Ciphr, you don't know the facts. You have only heard them 2nd hand and even I don't know what nonsense you have been told.
I stole nothing from Canada, not now, not ever. I'm a patriot while Dean gave weapons that were set aside for Canadian soldiers to Russians to fight our allies. This can be confirmed by many old farts like me.
The congress bill "revoked" his citizenship. That means it was taken away, nowhere does it say for how long. Thus the 14 day rule of the new constitution apply, as Dean immigrated to the country, and stayed for fourteen days. Therefore he is a citizen, and granting him access is nothing unusual.
im⋅mi⋅grate
/ˈɪmɪˌgreɪt/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [im-i-greyt] Show IPA verb, -grat⋅ed, -grat⋅ing.
–verb (used without object)
1. to come to a country of which one is not a native, usually for permanent residence.
2. to pass or come into a new habitat or place, as an organism.
Note NEW habitat and country which on is not a native. This would mean that Dean22 can NOT become an immigrant in his native home of eCanada, he was exiled and thus the 14day rule does not apply to him.
Seems to me many back door dealings occured and too many spins are going on the new means of things, shame burk. Its a real Shame.
BTW all the 2nd hand info comes off that of the eCanada forums, so are you to say said information is not to be trusted?
In that case, since I left for training in Romania for a month, I am also no longer a citizen?
Along with the numerous CAF members, who were abroad and came home.
you were not exiled so you would be welcomed back as well as the fact that you don't lose your citizenship as you are on CAF duty. You remain a eCanadian citizen while you are away from the country in the CAF as you are acting on behalf of your country.
That is not a very good comparison.
I am saying that if you get booted you can't use the 14 day rule to reclaim your citizenship as that rule only applies to immigrants.
However was not a member of CAF, as I was training for my own free will, in fact to improve my chances of being accepted into the CAF
I was away for a month, and our constitution states that my citizenship waqs lost. It was regained after I stayed 14 days, however, if we go by your interpretation, then I have in fact not been restored as a citizen.
Noyst the Bill passed by Congress explicitly said Dean could not regain his citizenship without a vote by Congress restoring it. We put that in just for arguments such as the one your making.
My names rylde how are u
If that is true, then my argument is indeed meaningless, and I am compelled to agree with you.
Oh well, twas a fun debate while it lasted
oh, it's not over. while some people might feel comfortable with the skills on the judiciary, I would like to call for a much higher standard of jurispudence. those who are in the position to judge should not themselves be involved or have been involved in malfeasance of any sort. creating multis is against the rules whether it has been apologised for or not. there is a good reason why admin comes down hard on it. those who are there to interpret rules should not be accused of violating them. it calls the office into question even if they possess experience or skill. perhaps that is the reason why we are having so many problems in eCan. the politicians/judiciary/congress/old boys/lackeys/caf members/ministers and everybody else in authority are not performing up to the highest standards of honour and duty, but instead are trying to use their office for personal gain/infamy or to leave some sort of questionable legacy behind. perhaps it is time for new blood or a changing of the guard? at the very least I am calling for everybody from left to right to clean up their acts and put away the petty childishness. everybody try to hold yourselves to a higher standard, or else quit the game if you cannot play it properly.
We all make mistakes, that's life and we learn from them. I personally feel that a mistake like that shouldn't have to haunt somebody in everything they do. However, if you feel that Vincent should be impeached, post about it in the government section, and we'll discuss it. If we deny it post in the Canadian discussion and see if you can get the public on your side
yes, it's all about standards my friend. standards. if we are to have the best ecountry we can, we must have the best estandards to go along with it.
Even if that means persecuting an exceptional citizen?
well, now that we have this discussion going, we might as well get some answers. bruck and jacobi are having their dirty laundry for everybody to see, as it should be. they are high level politicians and must be held to the highest account. so to must the judiciary. they are just as important. I have absolutely no doubts that bruck, jacobi and vincent are exceptional citizens. but that does not cut it in political life. the question we must ask is "what are your actions saying to the people who have elected/appointed you?" It is not a persecution, there is no need to get histrionic. Bruck and jacobi are engaging in the public debate and I congratulate them for it. It must be hard when there are so many bullets flying by your head. Now, I have asked a question about vincent, and as a ecanadian citizen (i just reside in espain temporarily, my choice - for a new experience), I would like to hear his explanation for what he did. I don't think it's too much to ask and the public deserves to know the goings on of the people who are running the nation. all I hear is the sound of crickets, though
A clever article, but I don't buy it. As you said, Dean is a old vet, he has no connection to Jacobi, a fairly new (and seriously involved) player who has shown extreme care for the well-being of Canada. Trying to equate the two using a couple lines of reasoning is in line with some of the crack-pot conspiracy theories in real-life politics.
Dean may be a criminal, as you say, but I imagine the only connection between him and the Prime Minister is too much sympathy on Jacobi's part. The PM does believe all inhabitants of Canada have a right for a freedom of speech, and as PM he has some authority to follow his morals, that which he has done.
PimpDollaz,
Holding your politicians to the highest standards leaves you with nothing but a select group of good-looking incapable leaders. It's the same in real life and it's the same here. Judge their ability, their effectiveness, weigh their weaknesses, and vote by that standard!
yes, but what that gives us is the same cycle of mudslinging, innuendo, false accusation, much like what goes on in these articles. I am asking the people, are we not tired of these same old arguments?, or shall we as a collective aspire to get past all of this hubris and braggadocio and really make upright decisions that benefit ALL people of ecanada and not just a select few who want to use the coffers as a personal piggy bank or flout the rules of erepublik? rules that are there to safeguard people who play by the rules but don't get rewarded for it.
You made a legislation illegal under a new constitution. End of story, end of topic. Dean never should've been banned. Bruck, you're turning in to AB.
Just to add a third perspective to this debate, here is what the "bone of contention" (aka Dean22) has to say about this:
<a href="http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/discerning-propaganda-from-truth-the-whole-truth-and-nothing-but-the-truth--830272/1/20" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/disc[..]1/20</a>
There goes the government (AKA Adasko) contradicting itself again. Jacobi says "let the Supreme Court decide", Adasko says "the Supreme Court shall not decide, we are in charge here not the peope!"
Well which is it boys and girls? The government seems to be getting bipolar!
Lol Jacobi Joseph Stalin
Adasko is simply saying that the Supreme Court will find the government acted properly
@PimpDollaz:
I have not, and will not shirked from the sin I have committed. I have PMed you my full explanation as you have requested. It is not an excuse, merely an explanation. I have no political aspiration beyond the attempt to repay my moral debt. I do not desire a false redemption.
Again congress should never have side step the courts ruling to let dean stay burk
But the old constitution gave them that power, and during that time, it was the old constitution in effect
@Nosyst your wrong read this article:
<a href="http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/discerning-propaganda-from-truth-the-whole-truth-and-nothing-but-the-truth--830272/1/20" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/disc[..]1/20</a>
It proves that the CEP government at the time enacted an illegal law they had no power to do.
Thank you for clarifying
Little johny gets sent home from school for hitting little frank even thohgh no one knows for sure if little johny did it. Now little johny;s mom tells him that she does not think he did it and he can go play. Now little johny's dad gets home from work and hears of this and thinks he did hit the boy and therefor comes in and sends little johny to his room.
Should johny's have sent him to his room even though johny's mom had already come to a verdict? NO! Is Dad undermining her athority because it was not what he wanted? YES
Johny is Dean
Mom is the suprem court
Dad is Congress
Cute story eh?
DAL FTW
Cypher Rahl a better analogy is:
Dean22 is brought before Supreme Court in Germany in 1948 for writing against the Nazi's in 1945.
Dean22 is ruled innocent.
In 2009 Congress brings this up again even though it was already settled and they have no power to do anything they rule to vote him out of Germany illegally.
A few months later in 2009 Dean22 wins against the illegal government since they had no power/law/legal right to enact an illegal bill against a citizen for something that wasn't even a crime and he was ruled innocent for.
Noyst: It was a CSD government led by Zanalan that kicked out Dean, not a CEP government.
AB it was your goons in the vote .
By my goons he means 75% of Congress, so the CSD, CEP, and PPC.
Yep, everyone is my goons.
AB why do you have a condom in your picture?
Bruck for the love of god stop with the crap and try and work together, you are making things worse by trying to divide eCanada.....give the poor bloke a unhindered chance.
Jacobi Joseph Stalin...what a fitting name. I've spent a lot of my time here on eRep trying to bring down corrupt/incompetent/negligent politicians, and the list is long (Gofarman, 1ronman....).
Mr. Joseph Stalin, you gave Dean, who by all measures is a TRAITOR and ENEMY of eCanada, his citizenship? And you did this WITHOUT consulting ANYONE? Yup, that, in my book, makes you fall under the "corrupt/incompetent/negligent politician" category. eCanada is a small place, and a little screw up can easily kill your political career; I hope your foolishness ends your career. In fact, I am now your biggest critic.
People here are missing the issue at hand. Forget Rearden. Forget Bruck. Their political careers are over. Jacobi Joseph Stalin should be the one we need to criticize and question because it seems he feels like he can make decisions like a dictator.
And stop with this Jacobi "fanboy" garbage. Cypher (reminds me of syphilis, lol), and all the other fanboys, please crawl back into Jacobi's anus.