PEACE GC, liberator or oppressor?
Dio Jazar
in this article I want to give my view on the propaganda that these days fills the media of every EDEN and Fortis country. Prepare yourself for a wall of text (which is actually just 0.0001% of what could be written on the subject).
eRepublik, a war game
Yes, it is. Players, countries but most importantly this game thrives by war. It is easy to support this statement, because the game has been designed to provoke and stimulate war. The easiest example I can give is the economy of eRepublik. To break it down, there are 3 types of products.
Wellness products
These are food, houses and gifts. Why do you want a high wellness? That has two reasons:
1. You can produce more (making a 'virtuous circle').
2. You can fight more.
War products
These include Weapons, Defense Systems and Hospitals.
These products are only useful in war.
Other Products
Moving Tickets and Raw Materials.
Raw Materials are the basis of the other two types of products, only Moving Tickets are arguably useful for other things than war though are often used to transport armies and (in the past) voters.
Though there are more factors involved, this is the easiest way to show that eRepublik needs war.
eRepublik BETA - forming alliances
The basis of the alliance wars in V1 has been set in the Beta. The Beta knew several months without war. During this time the only thing that happened was people setting up companies and arguing over party politics. The Holy Empire of /V/akistan had a large group of players leaving due to the war module being postponed. Alliances didn't really mean anything.
However, with the introduction of the War Module we could all finally go to war. The Beta had a much better war system (not in performance, but in fun) than V1 because you fought Player versus Player. So of course, countries soon started wars against their neighbors, often just because they were large and war was fun. Alliances started to gain meaning and several were founded, with PANAM, FIST, MA and NA being the main Alliances.
But an alliance always seeks to be the strongest, as that is needed for its survival. At the time the Northern Alliance was the most active one seeking new members and slowly merged with PANAM. They started a new project, which they called the Atlantis Project or the Open Alliance. They separately contacted several MA nations in an attempt to recruit them, saying they would offer protection to all the MA nations.
"The basic idea is a vast international Mutual Protection Pact system between the M.A. PANAM, and N.A. in this system, no one member has a veto, and each member has an equal voice."
It was a trick. Only some of the MA countries were contacted, ending up with Spain earning themselves the name of "DoubeSpaniards". They hopped on the bandwagon and now the NA had 5 of the 6 largest members on board. The NA was preparing for war agains its mortal enemy, FIST, and more in particular Indonesia and /V/akistan. /V/akistan had seen it as its mission from the start to oppose the 'Pig Disgusting' Swedes, as they were the strongest other nation in eRepublik.Their rivalry was actually one of the best things in eRepublik history, as while they were enemies they kept it fun. Only several countries dared to refuse membership, including Brazil and France.
However, don't think that at the time there was no propaganda. Already back then everyone called eachother imperialistic. The NA had conquered several countries in Northern Europe and Russia, FIST had conquered Australia and several countries in Asia and the MA had conquered Switzerland for allying with the NA (though that's subjective, as the Swiss argued they didn't). But the point is, propaganda was already a hot topic. Someone made a simple picture at the time to represent the Atlantis propaganda:
Anyway, moving on, the MA had no other choice than to cooperate with FIST in order to try and keep the balance. PEACE GC was formed to merge these two alliances, which right away started with a heavy focus on defending each other due to the mere fact that that was the only thing they could do at the time.
PEACE GC - Liberators?
The end of the Beta and first half of V1 was the Golden Age for Atlantis. They managed to achieve a good number of victories and PEACE GC couldn't always succeed in defending. However, it was also a Golden Age for PEACE. Being on the defense gave us stronger ties, friendship and, not to forget, MPPs. It made us a stronger alliance than being on the offensive would've ever made us.
Propaganda during this period was quite simple. PEACE GC used its defensive status to call Atlantis imperialistic. Atlantis said that imperialism doesn't exist in a game and that we should just fight.
PEACEkeepers in the defense of France?
PEACE GC - Oppressors?
In retrospective, it's funny how the tables have turned. PEACE GC ended up as the strongest alliance and managed to get in the offensive against Atlantis. Nowadays they call themselves either EDEN or Fortis, but the core is exactly the same.
When it comes to propaganda it's a bit different. Atlantis has grabbed the opportunity to use the propaganda that PEACE GC used when they were on the defensive. However, for PEACE GC nations it's still very easy to justify their attacks for their population. The difference with the past is that about every PEACE GC nation has been under attack of Atlantis at least once, whether politically or militarily, while Atlantis nations did not have this incentive.
Some propaganda writers are better than others. A few are creative with numbers, by example claiming that the USA and Canada aren't imperialistic because they hold no foreign territories. They claim that PEACE GC can't invade them because then they are bad, forgetting that they cheered for each territory they conquered in the past.
While you could break down their arguments one by one, often being quite easy, I like to use this sentence to get rid of their arguments all in once:
"Failing is not an excuse for trying."
A PEACEkeeper gone rogue?
The truth is that everyone has invaded other countries, one country for an other reason than the other. But fact is that it's also what this game needs. There is no impartial good or bad and there will always need to be enemies, just because it's all a game.
So, what is it?
If you hadn't guessed yet, my answer. As how it is now, the game needs war to survive. Atlantis took the initiative in the past, now PEACE GC has taken over the rudder. Over time, things will change again. But is PEACE GC a liberator or an oppressor?
PEACE GC is neither:
PEACE GC is an alliance. PEACE GC is playing this game as it's supposed to be played.
Edit: because of the many reactions, I'd like to add something. With saying that PEACE GC is playing the game, I also want to stress the fact that it's a game. I can't find morality in this game because the game leaves no room for real life ideals.
Jazar
Disclaimer: while you should keep in mind that I'm a long time PEACE player, this is my honest view on the situation and the game.
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good article, vote🙂
Nice article, I realy enjoyed it reading 😁
Blech.
jawesome brah
I'll take oppressors for 2 regions
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didn't read it 😛
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didn't read it 😛
to me peace is a joke i will star resistance in texas when i get enough points
We have William Wallace lv 3 Hoorray
Great article, Jazar, although I do not agree with your final answer.
by time resistance wars are gonna be every where and peace is going to fall and america will rise again.
Nice jpg.
"1-Portugal"
Voted.
Also this article is like a crackhead trying to say that he's not a crackhead because he didn't smoke crack when he was 3.
Great view. interesting.
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Great article my bro
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Voted!
Hey, as long as we can train and keep wellness up...
Final shot to the ex-Atlantis propagandas.
Well, they simply failed when "Golden Age" turned to "Golden Bug".
Actually, Atlntis's main problem was that they didn't let anyone else in. they were going for a "Brotherhood" kind of feel, with a few large countries with tight ties, but it never really worked out that way. Last summer, when Turkey and Iran tried to join, I said, "YES. DO IT." But nobody listened to me. Imagine how different things could have been.
> Also this article is like a crackhead trying to say that he's not a crackhead because he didn't smoke crack when he was 3.
I don't really see what you're trying to do here, but I had expected a bit more respect from you in particular..
> Actually, Atlantis's main problem was that they didn't let anyone else in.
Well I forgot to put this into the article, but yes, PEACE GC picked up on this point where Atlantis let it slip through their fingers. The NA managed to make a strong alliance of the countries that were in the game at the time and had a good size & strength, but PEACE GC opened itself to all countries and had a far larger influx of members in V1. The fact that Turkey and Iran weren't admitted was probably because they had set FIST as their target, while they sought an "Atlantic" alliance. But they also screwed up with possible future members like Russia.
Great article, without any doubt;
great style, without any doubt.
But, like Mr.Villanova, I don't agree very much with your final statement.
damn that's nice article voted
"PEACE GC is an alliance. PEACE GC is playing this game as it's supposed to be played."
Word!
great article should move to wiki i think 😃
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>>PEACE GC is playing this game as it's supposed to be played.
Agree. Even if in weeks or months PEACEgc will fall (yes they will, eventually) and God knows what other alliances will rise, it's just a good game.
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nice article....voted!
It is a very interesting situation with the war going on now. PEACE GC is keeping peace through war. By elimating all enemies in the name of justice. PEACE GC is able to hold an iron fist against all of its member nations colonies and justify this as defence. Soon even neutral peaceful nations will be invaded in order to protect the security of PEACE GC.
hurrah!!!
need a lot of time to read it, sigh...
why ppl always make this kind of thing...
great article
imo, call for global conference for Peace Global Community.. we should settle this issue ASAP
Although much what you say is true, it doesn't reduce the guilt of PEACE one bit. You may claim that the attack against ex-ATLANTIS is justified *because they opposed you before*, and you're now taking your rightful revenge. However, does that have anything to do with invading countries that were not part of ATLANTIS? China, India, South Africa, Australia.. the coups of the Baltic nations that were not threatened by ATLANTIS... your list of "crimes" goes deep.
You may speak how ATLANTIS was the evil organization seeking to dominate the world, and perhaps it was, but how is PEACE any different? The two alliances were the two sides of the same coin - both imperialistic and full of hypocrisy. Neither side could claim to fight for the right cause, and yet they did that whenever they could to justify their own expansion.
PEACE has agreeably made the game more interesting, I'll give you that. You may very well play the game as it is intended by the objective analysis of the rules, but it doesn't make you right and holy. You simply use whatever means possible to gain more power, but morality has long since been forsaken. If that is the path you wish to walk, then so be it but don't expect everyone to agree with the corrupt ideals of PEACE.
Who did South Africa invade?
I'm rather sure this is a sociopolitical simulation rather than a war game, which explains all the stuff here that has nothing to do directly with war (all the cultures and such), but that was still a good article.
PEACE = invader. If invader is good or bad i dont know, but the fact is that PEACE has destroyed many countries.
- South Africa
- Australia
- Canada
- USA
- Spain
- Thailand
- China
- Pakistan
- North Korea
- South Korea
- India
- Switzerland
Those are facts.
The only neutral (but puppet) country with an high iron region remaining is Peru. I see it clear.
So the logical conclusion of your article would be that Atlantis were never imperalistic and neither is PEACE GC now? That confirms the "propaganda" from all non-PEACE nations that claims that in PEACE GC raw power justifies all deeds and the winner earns the right to write the history.
I agree upon that wars were much more fun in beta, the ability to snipe down Cicero or Alucard made the battles a lot more fun. And back then a war actually decreased productivity as it should do. The only reason for admins to turn wars productive was of course to motivate more wars and a steady flow of gold leaving the game.
/V/akistan, come back, we still "hate" you!
There is things you forget little masculine, especially many good ATLANTIS players left the game months ago because of some very resilient indo -and italian cheaters.
But at least now I am back, like risen from the dead. Freed mostly from the conflict and prejudices of the past.
With joy I will fight for indonesia, against every opponent, both old and new. Renewed my old mission to destroy all.
That all may die, pitiful sheeple.
Peace to us all.
Well, the main problem in/of Erepublik is that most of us suck big time at role-playing. That's why this game gets "degraded" to a mere war game. And I then wonder if this is just a war game, why don't I play a game that has more complex warfare to it?
Btw, I lol'd when I saw the Copyright mention at the bottom of the article. 😃
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nice.
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nice one!! V+S
Oppressor. Now pls stop whining.
OMG it's like every other article in the world analyzes that ultimate question of PEACE being "evil" or "good".
It's neutral, just a massive force conquering the world. Nothing more to it.
nice article, but something is wrong, eAustralia conquered by eIndo, Fist was made long after after eAustralia conquered.
So then why don't you finish off the USA? You said it your self, that is how the game is supposed to be played.
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