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One generation passes away, and another generation comes; but the earth abides forever.....The eye is not satisfied with seeing, nor the ear filled with hearing. That which has been is what will be, That which is done is what will be done, and there is nothing new under the sun. Is there anything of which it may be said, “See, this is new”?
Ecclesiastes 1:4, 8-10

It whisper'd too, that freedom's ark,
And service high and holy,
Would be profaned by feeling dark
And passions vain or lowly;
For, Freedom comes from God's right hand,
And needs a godly train;
And righteous men must make our land
A nation once again!
Thomas Osborne Davis

I did something bad this week: I joined Second Life. Now, since there were no cleric's garments handy for me to wear, I went in as a rather non-descript college student. It was – well, different.



Why bother telling you this story ? Well, the one thing I noticed about Second Life that distinguishes it from eRepublik is its prosaic style, You meet someone, not knowing what to expect. And truth to tell, few conversations you have will rival Great Expectations or Pride and Prejudice. But in all encounters, there is a kind of episodic drama, of the sort that we never achieve in eRepublik. Perhaps it is the 3D stimulus, and the scenery – some of which, of course, is quite tacky. But for a game with no rules, no apparent purpose, and mechanics that you purchase as you go, there is something to be said for even the most casual encounters. In the meantime....

I see our own virtual society slowly withering away. What to do ?

It is of course convenient to offer verbal brickbats at this juncture to our admins, whose greed certainly does not exceed the owners of Second Life. Perhaps the admins never quite thought of having us make and buy our virtual clothing for gold. For in Second Life, one can indeed buy weapons, and land, if not manufacturing and food. I know of no governments or elections in that realm, but perhaps there are. But in the meantime, what the admins of eRepublik have triggered is yet another economic collapse, a radical drop in prices which typically accompanies each and every one of their “reforms”.



In this case, I think this is actually just a good old fashioned capitalist panic. Many of us have money and capital in abundance. And we might be inclined to commit those resources to increasing productivity, the better to continue to prop up the untenable wage rates that have prevailed for months. But if we imagine, as I do, that soon and very soon, the admins will, once again take actions that overturn our hard-won investments, well, the smart money is to keep your money at home. As the Teacher says, there is nothing new under the sun, even the virtual sun.

In the meantime, I cannot help but notice that new players, those being younger than I, outnumber the old. This also appears to make no difference to how the game is played. Having never been especially comfortable with the tactics and techniques espoused by the elite as normative, I find it especially annoying the elite has managed to clone a new generation of players in its own image – just as blindly nationalistic, fanatically militaristic, and unaware of the higher nature of politics and policy, much less of the kinder graces that one finds self-evident in Second Life. I do appeal to Dr. Quinn to address my alienation, but it has recently come to my attention that the Voegelinian theories of modernity-as-gnosticism have emerged in the writings and speeches of my episcopal colleague, the esteemed former Bishop of Durham, N.T. Wright:

NT Wright on Modernity and Postmodernity

Now, one might dismiss Bishop Tom's reflections as remnants of the ancien regime, even though in many respects he has burned his bridges and left his baggage behind him – after all, so did Lord Corwallis on his march to Yorktown. But I put it to you, the reader, that he has a point. For when I look at the works of our virtual worlds, their bestial power games, their hierarchical clannish behaviors, their utter lack of real individualism, one thing stands clear. While, to some extent, we are importing civilization into these online spaces, their nature is anything but civilized. This bothers me and it should bother you.

I've also taken to listening to interviews and debates involving the so-called “New Atheists” these days. You might know the names of their “Four Horsemen”: Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris,Daniel Dennett, and of course my favorite, the late and recently departed Christoper Hitchens. As the Wikipedia article notes, this school of thought asserts that “religion should not simply be tolerated but should be countered, criticized, and exposed by rational argument wherever its influence arises”. I have to confess a certain fondness for the memory of Christopher Hitchens whose jeremiads against Christian teaching were only matched by his own strong sense of moral rectitude and his often-bitter verbal assaults on those he chose as targets of his ire. Nonetheless, when push came to shove, I find that Hitchens managed not only to throw out the Old and New Testaments from the Western canon, but most of Plato's Republik and Aristotle's Ethics as well. When Sam Harris says that atheists should not spare Christians the sting of social ridicule and exclusion from the ranks of civil society, he is actually violating Kant's Categorical Imperative. With malice aforethought. Did anybody notice ?

And since the young are impressionable, and often socially and psychologically vulnerable, it is this – I cannot describe it as anything other than moral blindness, which seeps into the pores of these new worlds that are popping up like mushrooms online, we cannot expect a great deal of virtue from their inhabitants. If in fact, the likes of Mr. Hitchens and Mr. Harris have their way, not only will “turning the other cheek” be a rather quaint and curious relic of a long-forgotten faith, but even Plato's milder and more cautious juncture from the Republic, to the effect that virtue constitutes minding one's own business, be also consigned to the trash heap, as we regress to Chapter 1 of the dialogue, to Thrasymachus's dictum that justice is the will of the stronger (party) and to the eye-for-eye code of old Cephalus, who Socrates refutes in passing, but not before having admitted these thoughts:

“For let me tell you, Socrates, that when a man thinks himself to be near death, fears and cares enter into his mind which he never had before; the tales of a world below and the punishment which is exacted there of deeds done here were once a laughing matter to him, but now he is tormented with the thought that they may be true: either from the weakness of age, or because he is now drawing nearer to that other place, he has a clearer view of these things; suspicions and alarms crowd thickly upon him, and he begins to reflect and consider what wrongs he has done to others. And when he finds that the sum of his transgressions is great he will many a time like a child start up in his sleep for fear, and he is filled with dark forebodings. But to him who is conscious of no sin, sweet hope, as Pindar charmingly says, is the kind nurse of his age.” (Plato's Republic, Book I)



And so, while the New Atheists and their antagonists tie themselves in knots as to whether an omnipotent, all-loving, and just god may send their souls to universal suffering or universal bliss, the works of classic Greek philosophy sit unread, praised by the many and studied by only a few. Such is the world in which we live, live or virtual

 
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Thedillpickl
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Thedillpickl Day 1,539, 17:42

To the contrary, the reform of the econ actually fixed at least one major problem, the hire/fire crowd. They caused major overproduction and mega-inflation of wages. If you would notice wages fell by almost half AS WELL AS PRICES. I was getting almost $5 for q5 food two months ago. I say times are good and the whiny two clickers that say they are starving to death take a reality check. They still get plenty of income to fight or they can save and invest, it doesn't all go for food. The Rockefeller's and Carnegie's can cry in their champagne all they want too. Greedy suckers were playing a game mechanic to trample the little guys. (Note, I'm not against playing game mechanics. Just don't complain when the admins take it away.)

An old country preacher once told me that there are no Atheists in eternity. If they are right their existence ends at death. If God is right they will know it about 1/2 second after they are gone from this world.

And yes Oreo's are good.

 
Rick von Ruger
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Rick von Ruger Day 1,539, 17:59

i didnt really read the whole thing but voted hard for the pic of the stoned greeks
i totally get what socrates was trying to say

And yes Oreo's are good. x2

 
Uhriventis
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Uhriventis Day 1,539, 18:08

New Atheist as opposed to old ones?

Personally I don't think the word atheist should be capitalized. It's not a religion.

 
Uhriventis
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Uhriventis Day 1,539, 18:12

Oh and on the Greeks. I'm a Heraclitus guy... But there isn't much of his work that survived.

 
Jon Malcom
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Jon Malcom Day 1,539, 18:16

So freakin long...not sure I will read this. May come back later.

 
MaryamQ
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MaryamQ Day 1,539, 20:44

This is my third attempt to answer this. That's what I getting for making answers that are tl;dr.

In essence, I agree with the Rev. Mr. Seabury. I am disturbed by the open lack of regard for ethics or morality by some of our players. I must say I find no relationship between this disregard and religion or lack thereof, either real or virtual. I know atheists who are rigidly ethical and professed believers who seem to lack any moral compass whatsoever. Since I regard games of this sort to be a kind of training ground for real life, I am very concerned about the kinds of citizens we may be growing. On the other hand, I stay in the game because of the many wonderful young people I have met from all over the world. I hope there are a lot more like them out there. Keep fighting the good fight, Mr. Seabury!

 
Phoenix Quinn
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Phoenix Quinn Day 1,539, 21:10

Thought-provoking and inspirational as usual. Well done.

With respect to alienation, I guess I would recommend considering that the pain and the antidote are the same. Breathe in the pain, breathe out the antidote. Be the transmutation.

I think a bit of debate with the learned former Bishop would be in order. It seems that the useful wisdom needed by our post-modern world is not a message of redemption. There is nothing to redeem. Rather, it is simply (!) grasping that: "This is not mine. I am not this. This is not my self." In other words, there is neither One, nor Two, nor Many, nor Three-in-One, nor a Fall, nor a need for a supernatural Redeemer, nor are there distinct periods of redemptive history and periods of falling-away from the Great Other or the Great Order. Such separations, delineations and aspirations for putting-it-all-back-together are mental projections built from our (natural) fear of impermanence.

The underlying reality has never changed.

When one knows and sees thus, then in regards to this body with its consciousness and feelings of wretchedness and separation and in regard to all external signs, I-making, mine-making, and the underlying tendency to conceit -- including the need to cling to a desire that "I" will be "saved" -- cease to occur within.

At that point we can also let the internal watcher fall away, and start training how to act like what we really have been all along: fearless crazy diamonds shooting through the universe.

That's my thinking this week anyway.

 
Plugson
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Plugson Day 1,539, 22:06

Might have to move to the eUSA for the sake of the media.
Enjoyed the read ~ thanks.

To me "Plato" and "Republic" are vestigial reminders of a different direction imagined by the designers of the game, just as the eRep "forum" appears to exist yet has no apparent function except to remind.

 
olivermellors
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olivermellors Day 1,540, 23:25

Well, a very nice read.

Virtue is indeed accessible to all: the believer, the unbeliever, the classics scholar and, yes, even the young and unschooled.

As there is nothing new under the sun, it is no surprise that youth is wasted on the young, that insolence is admired especially if not accompanied by adverse consequence and that the loudest are at once the most certain and superficial.

Virtue and courtesy, honesty and good faith, pay rich dividends. But they come quietly. They demand hard work. Mind you, when high and craving sugar, its hard to care.

 
George Pumpkinette
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George Pumpkinette Day 1,540, 12:36

"Since I regard games of this sort to be a kind of training ground for real life, I am very concerned about the kinds of citizens we may be growing"

Whatever one may think of our educational system, it is all but what we have, spending trillions on defense and cutting back on education, makes a lot of sense or senseless citizens. How long before it is realized, our military has and does back up our corporations or even better our military is a corporation looking to further it's own control.

 
RsAD
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RsAD Day 1,540, 14:20

Oreos are good, voted. No naked ladys no sub ... sorry

 
Uhriventis
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Uhriventis Day 1,540, 18:46

^No.

 
Ulysses101164
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Ulysses101164 Day 1,571, 00:31

Great article!
Be warned of Second Life! I was in Second Life for 2 1/2 years. The only thing it is about is SEX!, nothing else. You can make some virtual money there by building and creating, thats all you can do with sense. All other things there are stupid, theres no politics, no personal meanings, no people with IQ over 110, no individuality, all people look the same like short armed Barbies and if you look other, nobody talks to you, you are discriminated in their virtual "clubs". The big money makers there are the whores or people selling SEX articles. Its really a mad world so be careful not to get lost in this virtual Babylon. Do you know that people "marry" there, have virtual sex and get "babies" after a virtual pregnancy??? I never saw such a crowd of mad people like in SL in my whole life, except the Taliban in Afghanistan. BE CAREFUL!