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My AFA hating days are done. I can't do hate. People are just people.

Day 1,833, 22:05 by Candor

Hello fellow eAmericans.

I want to share a few thoughts, indulge me if you have the time, and thanks in advance.

I’ve been playing a little over three years. I’ve never been a citizen of any other eNation except for a short period a couple of years ago when we made a national effort to place a friendlier government (President) in Russia or some such place I can’t recall at the moment. I was there for about 24 hours if I recall, and p-much drank vodka and chased skirt while awaiting extradition.

I’ve been in Congress a few times, and was Speaker of The House (upon specific request) once. But Congress honestly doesn’t do anything the way our government is set up now. Congressmen are expected to follow the directions of the President, for the most part. We move the money we are told to move, we let in the citizens we are told to let in, and we approve the MPP’s we are told to approve.

Congress does get to discuss a monthly budget. But I’m not an economics guy so that barely interests me.

I like to see new guys go to Congress, but not because I expect them to do anything particularly useful but because on occasion there’s a good discussion and when that happens everyone gets to see what everyone else is made of. So if Congress has any real usefulness, it’s in raising potential new leaders, or, at least, separating the wheat from the chaff.



I’ve served in a couple of Executive Cabinets; most notably I designed and ran the OMB under President Colin Landtrip, upon his specific request. Those who don’t know Colin may not know that he has changed his name and now plays under the name “The Great Ape”. Colin is one of my small handful of people in game whom I trust entirely (he's also a dirty AFA'er). I think most of us have such a small group we trust similarly, and if you don’t have a few folks like this, you should try finding a few. They are useful for a lot of things.

I bounce ideas off these guys, sometimes horrible or ridiculous ones. They give me feedback, like any real friends would. I trust them with personal real life information and on occasion’s passwords and account access. We often throw money back and forth as needed. These guys like and trust me as well.

We’re playing a game together called eRepublik.

Not everyone in that small circle of trust is eAmerican. One of my buds has been ePakistani for nearly as long as I’ve played, and Colin, in example, has lived in numerous countries, although this one more than any other.

It’s cool to get to know people from all over the real world via eRepublik. If you have the opportunity to make such friendships, do it. People are pretty much the same around the world. But in eRepublik, of course, often we aren’t playing the game on the same team. And that’s what the eUS really is, one team of many in a big game. Well you know that.

I’ve made a few hundred friends in my time here. Many of my good friends and I have running conversations via email or game PM, depending on the sensitivity of the topic. I’m not a big telephone talker guy, but a handful of people have that information as well.

You still awake?

So let’s move on to people I don’t particularly love. There aren’t many. And even the one’s I don’t love extend no further than about that: I don’t love them. And it’s a pretty short list. And it's not for what they believe in, but usually because of how they treat others.

Those who know me well know I’m easy as pie to get along with. Respect me and my opinions and I’ll respect you and yours. I don’t care if we agree on much, to be honest. I’ll like you just fine so long as you’re courteous and civil. Get into this bullying or name calling thing, and I pretty much just disengage from the relationship.

I treat people as individuals. I’m part of the WTP at this time because our nation is weak at this time in our history. We are. We can barely hold four strong parties together. We just haven’t a large enough national population. And our active population is simply a reflection of our over all population, as a percentage. Were we stronger, I’d return to a small sixth because party politics are dumb, frankly. We’re all on the same team, that’s Team USA.



So here’s where I think I’m going to upset some of you a bit, apologies in advance.



The AFA.

Bullshite aside, the AFA is not 900 serbs, real life or game serbs. Some are serbs, sure. But probably about 200? I spent some time going through their membership a couple of months back, and while a good number of the folks do indeed come from nations we traditionally fight with in game, serbs were just a part of the total.

The thing is, because we have fought with these nations for so long, most of their citizens were never allowed to immigrate to the eUS. For a long time this seemed a sensible policy to everyone. Still does to a majority of you reading this probably.

But there is another side of the story, a very human side. A good number of these folks that are coming to join the AFA are doing so with the fantasy of playing Americans. The red white and blue, all the patriotic apple pie and freedom and our mighty might and whatever the heck else it is that makes people in real life wish they could be American’s. If only for pretend. If only to see what we’re about.

What would happen if these AFA people took a majority control of the nation? You might see some alliance shifts, I’d expect that frankly. A rotten scoundrel of a Congress might steal the treasury I suppose, though I doubt it. But have you ever stopped and asked yourself why all the AFA media is so patriotic, rather than destructionist? The answer is as clear as it appears, in my opinion. They want to play Americans. Not destroy America, but become a part of America. In this game. Game.

They’re probably a bit shocked at the vitriol we throw out. Hey we let the iNCi become part of us, why are we hating so much on these guys?

900 people is a third of our active strength. In my opinion, we embrace that strength and embrace these folks. You want to hate RGR, I couldn’t care less. But he’s one guy. Get to know people one on one, that’s how I make judgments.

And I’m sick of playing the nasty downer game.

If you perceive and treat the AFA as a threat, expect an unfriendly AFA. If you treat the members as individuals, and they are individuals, they might just become a strong and loyal and patriotic group of team mates and friends.

So agree or disagree, but I’m done having any part of hating 900 people just because most everyone hates Reagan (mostly). They’re just people. They aren’t together as a group planning this nation any harm in my opinion, though I’m sure there are bad seeds, as there are anywhere. You won’t let them play in your Congress sandbox, so why in the world expect them to abide by any forum “laws”. Meh.

My AFA hating days are through. I'm here for fun, and hating is a serious downer. It's a game. I just don't have it in me to dislike a group of people this much. I don't know if I'd call such hatred racist exactly, but to me it isn't natural. We aren't haters as a people. Diversity adds to our nations strengths.

I'll be treating these guys the way I treat anyone else, individually, based on the content of their character.

And I'm being up front about it.

 

Comments

Candor
Candor Day 1,833, 22:05

Top spot before the rage?

Kell Draygo
Kell Draygo Day 1,833, 22:26

U crazee

Ronald Gipper Reagan
Ronald Gipper Reagan Day 1,833, 22:31

I can haz CP and all will be well.

Actually, yes, this game consumes far too much time... which is why after I am CP I will perma-two click. I am trying to prove a point.

bigcdizzle
bigcdizzle Day 1,833, 22:48

This time I can't agree with you Candor.

Candor
Candor Day 1,834, 23:01

Bigc: I know bud, that's ok. It's lonely being me sometimes.

Iliya The Great
Iliya The Great Day 1,834, 23:34

Are you suggesting we should engage a third of our active population instead of just vilifying them all with one broad stroke?

Why u so crazy? : P

A tad soft on the RGR stuff though..

Operation Monkey Business.. great memories.. it's hard to imagine a country so strong and united now.

Drew Blood
Drew Blood Day 1,834, 04:36

'Are you suggesting we should engage a third of our active population instead of just vilifying them all with one broad stroke?'

'Hey we let the iNCi become part of us, why are we hating so much on these guys?'

We let iNCi in an because 'Fluffer' wanted to be President so bad he would do anything...even let in enemies...so bad he blackmailed America into making him President...frankly 'Fluffer' is worse than RGR because he hides behind Patriotism....

Thedillpickl
Thedillpickl Day 1,834, 05:53

TBH, 90% of AFA are probably alright folks. It's the 10% like Sadarta and Hanibal that are wanting to make shit. The reason I go on about Serbs is that the "hate" America thing came about because of Kosovo. Most Serbs don't hate American players here but they do hate what happened in Kosovo with just cause. Just that kids can't separate RL from a game.

I knew INCi would be brought up and that is BS. Same thing, 10% bad INCi does not make all bad. I have a Turk friend that was never INCi.

Thedillpickl
Thedillpickl Day 1,834, 05:54

He joined eRep as an American because he wanted to play that way. He became my employee almost 2 years ago. He almost quit the game because he did not speak/write good English and did not want people to know he was a Turk and have them 'hate' him. He has been with me ever since and has been posting some to my MU group PM's some. I say if anyone gives Tum shit I'll kick their ass! *poof* right out of the MU, I don't care who they are. We talk about anything other than this silly game.

Bia Pandora
Bia Pandora Day 1,834, 07:14

I don't hate the AFA, I hate the LIARS in it. I'll keep fighting them until they stop. Same with our countries liars.

Red. blue, green or purple, a liar is a liar and it's open season on them in my book. Don't be shady, don't get called out.

AFA just happens to not only harbor a substantial amount of dirty liars, but ones that also want to destroy my country. Must suck being such a large target, but oh well, they make the choice.

Candor
Candor Day 1,834, 08:21

I agree with you Bia, like and dislike people as individuals. The AFA gets played as a group by more than one set of people and for more than one single reason. And when I realized that, I decided the best I could do was as I always do otherwise and measure individuals based on the content of their character.

Bia Pandora
Bia Pandora Day 1,834, 09:03

They get played as a group because the group was created for the intent of taking over the country by any and all means, including dirty underhanded and destructive tactics that hurt everyone but the people they claim to despise, despite their leaders wanting the SAME THING these "elites" do, power and control at any cost.

If these are really "good" people, they'd see that. You cannot blame people for lumping them if they aren't brave enough to stand up against the wrong in their own house.

fingerguns
fingerguns Day 1,834, 09:08

You are entitled to your feelings.

Please don't try and convince people PTOers are not PTOers.

BugsBunnyz
BugsBunnyz Day 1,834, 09:12

I heartly agree Candor setting about 200 of them aside, and the 400 multi's, the 100 that are left aren't bad people... just misguided.

Bia Pandora
Bia Pandora Day 1,834, 09:15

Let's put it this way, Candor. You know I respect you. You know I'm all about koombayah let's love each other.

You know that not every group has good people. You cannot put a white sheet over your head and parade around burning down houses with the rest of the group and try to claim you are "good".

I've yet to see anyone in AFA pull the sheet off their head in the middle of the procession and say "hey man, that wasn't cool" have you? The good ones leave when they learn the truth.

Bia Pandora
Bia Pandora Day 1,834, 09:24

My point is, there are exceptions to every rule. AFA was not a peaceful little party that just happened to be PTO'd by a psychopath and the poor members are trapped trying to win back their party.

It was created by psychopaths for the intent of achieving themselves power that was denied them in fair elections, and grown through illegal and douchebaggy means. If people hear the truth and still stay and support this activity, they aren't good people and it's hunting season, bring them on.

Bia Pandora
Bia Pandora Day 1,834, 09:41

Being good people doesn't mean we have to tie nooses around our babies necks. I'll choose caution first, you knock on my door with a white sheet on your head, I'll answer it but you'll have a shotgun in your nose until you prove you are just trick or treating.

Bia Pandora
Bia Pandora Day 1,834, 09:46

And sorry, I probably could have just responded in an article but im too frickin lazy lol

Iliya The Great
Iliya The Great Day 1,834, 13:21

"If these are really "good" people, they'd see that. You cannot blame people for lumping them if they aren't brave enough to stand up against the wrong in their own house."

Those are powerful words that could apply to most of us if you thought honestly about them.

Ichabod.. Pfeiffer had nothing to do with INCI being let in. There is plenty of legitimate criticism, there is no need to make shit up.

Alleyrat.. your numbers are a little silly. See above.

Iliya The Great
Iliya The Great Day 1,834, 13:22

"White sheets and burning down houses" Really? xD

Bia Pandora
Bia Pandora Day 1,834, 13:27

I do my best to be brave and stand up against the wrong every day. So do others.

And yeah, I needed a metaphor that everyone would be able to understand and recognize, especially for it's point. It worked eh? : )

Iliya The Great
Iliya The Great Day 1,834, 14:07

A bit dramatic and exaggerated really.. : P

I think his point was that they are not all AJ and it is a game.

If you are going to demand honesty then you have to try to deliver on it too..

DejO.o
DejO.o Day 1,834, 14:31

vote
to attempt of reason and understanding

Thorin II Oakenshield
Thorin II Oakenshield Day 1,834, 15:03

I think Candor is a PTOer. He should be banned from all political activity.

Sarcasm off

Iliya The Great
Iliya The Great Day 1,834, 15:08

I'm sure he will be... no opposing thoughts are allowed.

Civil  Anarchy
Civil Anarchy Day 1,834, 16:01

Candor, you're dead wrong on this one.
http://www.erepublik.com/en/country/USA/citizenship/applications/approved/1244
Look at the DOZENS of citizenship approvals from AFA congressmen, and look where they come from. Trying to delude yourself into thinking that the AFA is anything less than a PTO organization is simply not looking at the facts. If they had American interests in mind, they wouldn't be importing their voting bloc.

Hanibal LA
Hanibal LA Day 1,834, 16:07

heh i like u Candor. not just because of this..i liked u from start

Hanibal LA
Hanibal LA Day 1,834, 16:16

and tnx for finally giving us proofs and claims for all im saying whole time.

jsut few of first rows is enough to read it...adn everything is clear..

Hanibal LA
Hanibal LA Day 1,834, 16:21

its kinda interesting when those guys admit all their mistaked just in few coments haha

when i spoke about INCI problem u guys loughed to me saying INCi are ur best allies, and now, ufinally admit they were nothing but intrudors, enemies...

just waiting to see what u gonna write nxt here

Galaad Blancas
Galaad Blancas Day 1,834, 16:40

"But there is another side of the story, a very human side. A good number of these folks that are coming to join the AFA are doing so with the fantasy of playing Americans."

Dont be stu*id that is not happening!

HannyaTR
HannyaTR Day 1,834, 16:40

inci is good oche.

FirstLaw
FirstLaw Day 1,834, 16:45

You said it better than I ever could, Candor. Remember that it's just a game being played by people who want to play it their own way.

The PTO rhetoric has gotten tiresome after three years but the witch hunt never seems to stop.

KOSOVA Batoa
KOSOVA Batoa Day 1,834, 16:52

v

eisenmutter2
eisenmutter2 Day 1,834, 17:03

Candor if Hanibal LA forced you to write this and is still pointing a q7-weapon at your head just delete the "i" of 'eAmericans' in the greeting and we will call the cops immediately.


no i am just joking Hanibal would never harm eAmercans

Colonel Landa
Colonel Landa Day 1,834, 17:12

Of course not. Hanibal is the best candidate from AFA for PotUS.

Lysander Spooner II
Lysander Spooner II Day 1,834, 17:14

As I commented in another article last night:

"I just love the stereotyping where all the members of the AFA are painted with the same broad strokes as the few who are actively attempting to PTO the eUS. Some people join the AFA -- RL Americans included -- because they don't like the status quo."

Lysander Spooner II
Lysander Spooner II Day 1,834, 17:17

And as I shouted in the feed last night, advertising the article I commented on, and as Candor has said. At the end of the day, this is a game. Hatred and bigotry towards "immigrants" has no place in it.

And I don't see anything wrong with importing your voting block. We all have our own political objectives. The way to make those objectives a reality is by banding together with like-minded people.

Lysander Spooner II
Lysander Spooner II Day 1,834, 17:21

And the AFA isn't the only party where the members have failed to stand up and say what they're doing is wrong. Let us not forget that individual in the USWP who bragged in the USWP forum regarding having 50+ multies by using ProxySwitcher Pro. Those who have been around know who he is. The eUS went so far as to elect him PotUS. So much for our disdain of those who violate this game's Terms of Service. That disdain is definitely selectively applied.

TorrinTheGreat
TorrinTheGreat Day 1,834, 17:45

I have honestly been wondering how long it would be before someone came out with an article like this, I honestly don't see how some people can play the game with so much hate, That is both sides of this argument AFA members and non AFA members included. Lysander is right, this is just a game and the stereo typing the whole AFA as the serb PTOers should stop.

This is a game, hatred doesn't belong here

Hanibal LA
Hanibal LA Day 1,834, 17:53

TTG i dont hate anyone.!!!!

WhydoIbother
WhydoIbother Day 1,834, 18:08

very interesting read. not sure I agree with you but you have engaged my curiosity.

Shermain
Shermain Day 1,834, 18:21

Voted and thanks for your Candor.

loftedraptor
loftedraptor Day 1,834, 18:28

Voted, Good article!

Trogdorthetroll100
Trogdorthetroll100 Day 1,834, 18:45

I like it. Some people take the game too far though. And by this reasoning it is the same as negotiating with terrorists. I agree with you up to here.
"And I’m sick of playing the nasty downer game."
Good read

Syz2
Syz2 Day 1,834, 20:58

I hesitantly hovered my mouse over the vote button, but didn't click. I like this a lot and dislike it at the same time. I might make an article tomorrow about my thoughts, but its late and I need sleep before I get up early tomorrow.

Kan Nogaj
Kan Nogaj Day 1,835, 00:34

Glad to see you've come around.

Captain Kushskiller2001
Captain Kushskiller2001 Day 1,835, 00:48

Voted and thanks for your Candor. x2

Drew Blood
Drew Blood Day 1,835, 02:20

'Ichabod.. Pfeiffer had nothing to do with INCI being let in. There is plenty of legitimate criticism, there is no need to make shit up.'

'Let us not forget that individual in the USWP who bragged in the USWP forum regarding having 50+ multies by using ProxySwitcher Pro.'

Yet the iNCi are 'Fluffer's' staunches supporters...actions speak louder than words....that is why if you are against what the AFA is doing and remain in the party you are the enemy....

Zxdek
Zxdek Day 1,835, 03:08

don't just follow any side read both sides and make your choice http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/politics-elitists-vs-ptos-2165688/1/20

Bia Pandora
Bia Pandora Day 1,835, 09:36

"If you are going to demand honesty then you have to try to deliver on it too.."

You obviously don't remember who I am at all.

 
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