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Macedonia is Macedonia !
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Macedonia is Macedonia, but FYROM is not Macedonia.

MACEDONIA IS GREECE! KOSOVO IS SERBIA! TAIWAN IS CHINA!

Things are very simple Macedonia is Hellas and FYROM is Serbia,Bulgaria and Hellas 🙂

Državu možete zvati kako god hoćete ali treba vam biti jasno da vi nemate nikakve veze Makedoncima oni su bili Grci i pričali su grčki, a vi ste Sloveni i pričate mešavinu srpskog i bugurskog jezika... Zašto se Amerika ne zove po Apačima ili Sijuksima, ?

I respect Turkey and consider Turks as brothers.

Also I have visited Turkey twice during the last year (Ankara, Istanbul, Izmir, Ayvalik). And ofc I have a lot of Turk friends there.

So what I will say has nothing to do with prejudice or nationalism and ofc I don't want to insult you by any way.

I just want to explain why Greeks say Konstantinoupolis instead of Istanbul.

It is so because Greeks (Romans) build this city and since then they never stopped calling it like this. Also in Greek language Konstantinoupolis name has a meaning.

I will give you an example.

Greeks never call Marseille, the city of France as Marseille. We call it Massalia.

The reason is that Greeks from Phocaea, (Greek: Φώκαια) (modern-day Foça in Turkey) found this city 2.600 years ago and since then Greeks are calling this city Massalia. If you call the city Marseille, Greeks will not understand which city it is.

Have you ever seen French people say DO NOT SAY Massalia, but Marseille?

NO! Instead of complains like yours, they build in the central train station a wonderful Greek statue saying: "Greeks found Massalia".

And this my friend is called respect. Respect to the first settlers. Respect to the history. Respect to the name of the city.

And I can assure you that Greeks don't want to attack France and take Massalia back in "mother country"... 😛

The same is for Istanbul - konstantinoupolis. It is a city in Turkey and belongs to Turkey. Ofc all countries have stupid nationalists but this does not change the fact that by saying Konstantinoupolis we also understand that it belongs to Turkey and nothing more.

So, respect is to understand why we call Istanbul Konstantinoupolis, or Izmir Smirni, or Iznik Nikaia, or Trabzon Trapezounta, or Foca Phocaea, etc.

Respect is what French do. And the fact that not only you don't recognize the Greek history of these cities but you also try to correct us is very unrespectful.

Lefkadian i respect Greeks too , but yesterday when we saw your friend article we sent mesage to him for changing name to Istanbul he said 1 of my friend f.off , he is doing this on purpose

You are right.
The article is lets say "of international interest" so it should be written Istanbul instead of Kontsantinoupolis. Not because Konstantinoupolis is wrong, but because everyone should understand which city it is. And its international name is Istanbul. 😉

Istanbul is the official name since 1930 with a new postal services law that indicates any postal services sent to the city with any other name than Istanbul will be sent back.

The city had many other names too in the history

Alexandre
Aliyona
Alma Roma
Almus Roma
Alyana
Anthusa
Antoneinia
Antonia
Antonina
Antoninia
Âsitân
Âsitâne
Âsitâne-i Aliyye
Âsitâne-i Devlet
Âsitâne-i Hümâ Âşiyâne
Âsitâne-i Pâdişâhî
Âsitâne-i Saadet
Âsitâne-i Saadet-Âşiyan
Âsitâne-i Şâh-ı Cihân
Astanbul
Astanbulin
Atakent
Augusta Antononia
Belde-i Mahruse
Beldetü’l-Tayyibe
Bilâd’i-Selâse
Bizantıyye
Bizantion
Bizantium
Bozantin
Bulin
Buzantion
Buzantiya
Büzantion
Byzans
Byzas
Cezâre-i Heft Cebel
Cizant Kağak
Constantinople
Constantinopoli
Cospoli
Çakdurkan
Çar’gorod
Çaregrad
Çargrad
Çarigrad
Çezar Kayzer
Darü’l-Hilâfe
Darü’l-Hilâfetü’l-Âliyye
Darü’l-İslâm
Darü’l-Mülk
Darü’s Saltanatü’l Âliyye
Darü’s Saltanatü’l Seniyye
Darü’s-Sâde
Darü’s-Saltana
Der-Âliyye
Dergâh-ı Selâtin
Der-i Devlet
Der-i Devlet-i Âliyye
Der-i Saadet
Dersâdet
Eis Tin Polin
El-Farruk
Escomboli
Esdanbul
Estambol
Estefanye
Gosdantnubolis
Granduye
Gûlgûle-i Rûm
Hakanü’l-Bahreyn
Herakliyon
Istanbul
İslâmbol
İslâmbul
İstambol
İSTANBUL
İstanpol
İstanpolis
İstanpul
İstefaniye
İstimboli
İstimpol
İstinbol
İstinbolin
İstinpol
İstinpolin
Kalipolis
Kanaturye
Kayser-i Zemin
Konstantin Opol
Konstantina el Uzmâ
Konstantinîyye
Konstantinîyye el Mahrusa
Konstantinîyye el Mevkıyye
Konstantinîyye’t-ül Mahrusat-ül Mahmiyye
Konstantinobolis
Konstantinopol
Konstantinopol
Konstantinopolis
Konstantinu K’alak
Konstantinu Polis
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.
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it goes on.

for example solun-thesaloniki
voden, lerin i realy dont know what is this cites names in greek

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G779UlpGQ3U

Barry The Baptist's shout says it all. On top of that his nickname is way beyond cool. Lock, stock and 2 smoking barrels for the win!

Latin: Constantinopolis

Dude, you really have issues with the names 🙂

TURKS PREPARE TO LEAVE KONSTANTINOPOL SOON!!!

Respect for you. You said it very correctly to our western brothers if I can call them like this. But unfortunetly you see that they still think that before so much years there was a macedonian king who rushed the land near Ind. They think that Samuil is a macedonian and so on. They don't have a respect to each other, to their neighbours. They hate Greece, Bulgaria, Albania, Serbia, Turkey and steal a history. They must understand that Macedonia is a province including three countries: Republic of Macedonia, Greece and Bulgaria, sadly that in their schools they don't learn something true.

@akcadag45
But why change the name? History which we know today was created a long time ago, and do not pose a threat to the present. The fact that Istanbul has such a great history, it's not something that the Turks should be ashamed, but proud. The Greeks founded Istanbul and called it Constantinople, but this is part of history, rich history. Many cities in Bosnia and Herzegovina (from where i am) have names from the era of the Ottoman Empire, but it's part of our history and we are proud of the team.

Greeks never founded Istanbul...Romans did...

@Krste83 Then why did they give to the city a greek name (Kostantinoupolis) instead of a latin ?Why did they speak greek instead of latin?

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@ mdjole

Actually, they did not change the name.

When Greeks were saying "I am going to Konstantinoupolis" they were saying: Εις την Πόλιν (Is tin Poli= it means to the city)

So, from the Greek phrase Εις την Πόλη -> Is tin Poli it came the word Istanbul.

The same thing happened with other cities like:

Εις Σμύρνη - Is Smirni = Ismir
Εις Νίκαια - Is Nikaia = Iznik
Εις Σπάρτη - Is Sparti = Isparta
Εις Νικομήδεια - Is NikoMIDia = Izmit

Ofc Turkish Pronunciation played important role in the "renaming" of other cities, like:

Τραπεζούντα - Trapezounta = Trabzon
Σαμψούντα - Samsounta = Samsun
Φώκαια - Phocaea = Foca
Πέργαμο - Pergamo = Bergama
Έφεσο - Efeso = Efes
Σινώπη - Sinopi = Sinop


@krste83 Greeks never founded Istanbul...Romans did...

The city first found from Greeks by the name Byzantion.
When Romans transfered the Capital city from Rome to Byzantion they renamed Byzantion to Nova Roma and then to Kontsantinoupolis.
So they give to the city a greek name because Greeks were leaving there and that is why we still call it Konstantinoupolis, Not Constantin urbem which would be in latin 😉

hahahahaha mdjole brat kakvu istoriju si citaja ziti mene !!!!!!!!!!!

Pa sto nisi nesto sam zakljucio iz toga sto oni menjaju imena? Na taj nacin se zatire istorija proslog naroda koji je ziveo, na tim prostorima i brises ga iz istorije sto vise mozes,ne samo menjanjem imena vec i unistavanjem svega sto bi moglo na njih da podseca. Odlican primer su hrvati i albanci sta rade danas na nekadasnjim srpskim zemljama i tkdj. turci kada su dosli na balkan, radili su iste stvari, od pokrstavanja naroda do promene imena gradova i svega ostalog.
I nije mi jasno na cega si ponosan ti i slicni tebi zbog toga sto su vam turci doneli? Da li mislis da su vas voleli i milovali ili ste morali svaku neposlusnost da platite zivotom i drugim mucenjem? To bi bilo kao da srbi kazu da su ponosni sto su ih nemci okupirali i radili im razne strahote. Samo sto su turci to radili preko 300 god. Ukljucite mozak vec jednom. Poz...

The name of Constantinople come by the name of the Roman emperor Constantin - Roman, not Greek. That empire was Roman, not Greek. Eastern Romans never used the word Byzantines to describe themselves, they always call themselves as Romans.The word "Byzantines" to describe Eastern Romans was used for the first time in 18th century from German historians, and that was with goal to fabricate some new modern greek nation, that not exist in that time. Koine language was just lingua franca that was used in Eastern Roman Empire, that language have nothing to do with some greek people, because there was no Greek people at all in mediaeval. Modern greek nation have nothing to do with ancient Hellenes or ancient MAcedonians, they are just bunch of mongrels who were hellenised in the 19th and 20th century. Modern greek nation is just anglo-german project from 19th century, they are completely made up, they are fabricated like some industrial product. That's the truth, everything else is just fabrication .

Vase the Great you say that Modern greek nation has nothing to do with ancient Hellenes. How do you justify that?? Not only are your insults vulgar and immature, but your statements lack a huge amount of evidence. You should know that modern scholars and scientists have strongly supported the notion that we have a strong racial connection to the Ancient Greeks with conclusive genetic evidence. The ancient Greek civilization had not faded away, but had been creatively reshaped as it met Christianity, which took place during the Byzantine Empire. The continuity of the Greek nation has already been proved.

And hey Vase, even if you want to believe that we, modern Greeks have nothing to do with the ancient Greeks, that do not prove, that your newly born state has anything to do with ancient Macedonia. Ancient Macedonians were a greek tribe not a slavic one. You came to this region 900 years after Alexander the Great.

Borza, Macedonian Redux
"The twentieth-century development of Macedonian ethnicity,and it's recent evolution into independent statehood following the collapse of the Yugoslav state in 1991,has followed a rocky road. In order to survive the vicissitudes of Blakan history and politics, the Macedonians, who have had NO HISTORY, need one."

The issue started during the Balkan wars.Until then, there was never a Macedonian nation or language..The Macedonian nation is fabricated. Macedonia was inhabited by many nationalities, Greeks, Turks, Armenians, Bulgarians, Serbs, Jews and Albanians…

So started the Macedonian state propaganda, in order to create a new Macedonian nationality and psyche.. Mainly among the slavic speaking populations, notably the Bulgarians and the Serbs of Macedonia. Later during the Greek civil war, the Greek Communists and most Slavophone Greeks sided with Tito in order to create a communist Northern Greek state, that would encompass the region of Macedonia plus Thrace.

You need to wake up someday.

Vase the great, physical proof of the legacy of modern Greeks and their relationship with antiquity remains the use of the Greek language. whether you like it or not.

Parallel example of this is that the Serbian, Croatian, Bosnian language has many words of Turkish origin, Turkish words, and this words are constant part of everyday conversation, and no one can think of to ask for some sort of alternative word for it, becuse these are the usual words. A source that lies in history. If you understand what I want to say.

Mdjole he knew he can use Istanbul name, but he didnt do this cause Greek people have megali idea to take istanbul back and change name to constantinapol , i dont want to add reel stuffs in game but , when i saw his article this made me angry . i just want respect from him. we wrote mesage to him yesterday he said to us f.ck off.

@akcadag45 With the same logic we also want to take back Marseille (the French city) and name it Massalia.

Serbian, Croatian and Bosnian are variants of the same language, not separate languages. : )

MACEDONIA IS GREECE! KOSOVO IS SERBIA! TAIWAN IS CHINA!

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what does a greek virus do on your PC ?


changes the names of your folders xD

what does a fyromian virus do on your PC?

deletes history xD

i know u can think sth better, this one is fail xD

XAXAXAXAXAXAXA ANTIRKOS EPIC WIN

What does a yunanistanan virus do on your PC?
copies your history \0/

Sikip atmış, acımamış : (

HAHAHAHAH FYROMIAN SAYED GREECE COPIES HISTORY AHAHAHAHAH EPIC WIN

What does the fyromian virus do on your PC?

Cries and publishes articles when it thinks a folder got the wrong name.

lol , if u dont delete your article i'll cry like a fyromian baby 😛

you meant fyroMACEDONIAN baby right 😃

no i meant fyromian.macedonian babies are hot 😛

lolidis, he is already crying 😃