jamesw stole the UK's Treasury
Arrlo
On the 24th of July 2011 the UK's Treasury vanished from its holding org. We immediately suspected the CP at the time, jamesw. This was a particularly painful turn of events for me, who considered jamesw as one of my favourite erep players, and who had spent considerable time and effort building a war chest for the country.
This was complicated by his appearance some days later, and a conversation I had with him on August 7th. He gave me a story of how he was mugged, and his items were stolen, and his passwords and accesses were somehow compromised. I immediately felt guilty for doubting my old friend, but as time has gone on I'm afraid the evidence is so heavily against him that I no longer doubt his culpability.
We are expected to believe that a random mugger worked out erepublik to the extent that he could find the national org, find the password to that national org, and work out how to use the monetary market to move all the contents out of it. Not only that, but to send it all to the jamesw account.
I wanted to believe my old friend, but a conversation in an IRC chan where I defended him turned a wee bit silly when a member of the eRep team piped up that all our money from Bank of England had been transferred to jamesw. This was the following conversation I had with that admin. I'm removing the name for obvious reasons.
Session Start: Tue Jul 26 21:35:07 2011
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01[21:35]
01[21:35]
[21:35] um, okay
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[21:36] 'kay
[21:36] same here
[21:36] everything goes to jamesw
[21:36] minute after minute
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[21:37] yes
[21:37] should I spam you with numbers? 😛
01[21:37]
[21:37] GBP 371870.00
[21:37] RSD 50k
[21:38] PLN 20820.00
[21:38] PLN 30900.00
[21:38] IEP 108661.50
[21:38] IEP 8439.00
[21:38] BGN 51461.00
[21:38] ARS 25k
[21:38] BRL 50k
[21:38] CAD 50k
[21:38] CNY 75k
[21:38] ESP 75k
[21:39] FRF 50k
[21:39] GRD 50k
[21:39] HRK 75k
[21:39] HUF 75k
[21:39] IDR 75k
[21:39] LTL 50k
[21:39] LVL 5k
[21:39] LVL 45k
[21:39] MKD 100k
[21:39] PLN 50k
[21:39] RSD 50k
[21:39] RON, RUB, SEK, SIT 50k
[21:39] TRY, USD 100k
[21:39] USD 5941.00
[21:39] BGN 180.00
[21:39] finite
01[21:40] 😕
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[21:40] no gold
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01[21:40]
[21:40] np 🙂
[21:40] and it's only from HM treasury 😛
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[21:41] a LOT of transactions at MM this day
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Session Close: Tue Jul 26 21:42:37 2011
At this point I was trying to believe that someone had hacked the jamesw account, or had temporarily gained access, and by this point the loot would have been moved to the real culprit's account. Nope!
Session Start: Thu Jul 28 18:17:39 2011
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01[18:17]
[18:42] hi
[18:42] ?
01[18:42]
[18:42] sure
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01[18:43]
[18:43] yeah... sure
[18:43] let me see
[18:44] it all happened on 24th, right?
[18:46] he didn't move money
[18:46] just exchanging them for gold at MM
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01[18:46]
[18:49] but he just exchanged them for normal gold
[18:49] and is training with gold + buying HK sometimes
01[18:49]
[18:50] yes
01[18:56]
01[18:56] ❤
[18:56] np 🙂
Session Time: Fri Jul 29 00:00:04 2011
Session Close: Fri Jul 29 01:25:27 2011
One new try to prove his innocence? 🙁
Session Start: Fri Aug 05 18:38:02 2011
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01[18:38]
[18:42] sure 🙂
01[18:43]
[18:45] Yes
01[18:45]
[18:46] let me see...
[18:53] the thing is we can't see how much money has someone exactly got at the moment, just the history of the transactions...
01[18:53]
[18:53] but still he has got a lot of money, since he uses boosters
01[18:53]
[18:53] yes
01[18:54]
[18:56] yeah...
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So there you have it. He's been lying or avoiding the issue ever since, and used a sob story to try to dissuade people from asking too many uncomfortable questions. I'm not a UK player any more, so I suppose it doesn't matter to me which way the election goes. And most people must know that I really don't like Greatmoff at all, but I'm only angry at this stage that jamesw continues to lie and to dupe you all (on this as well as plenty of other subjects).
Vote how you like, but in full possession of the facts. Peace!
Comments
Thank you, do you mind if I repost in the UK?
No mod can give you those logs and only CP can ask for those with a ticket. Also, admins on irc - only 2 and I don't think they would give these transaction logs if you just ask them
They would.
They are logs of his own conversation.
Come back home.
No they won't give you transaction logs of a national bank. Only the CP can ask for those and nobody else.
nice ,hrhrhr,vote!
No MagiMaster, I regularly fabricate logs like that about my friends.
It's just they won't give you those logs on irc and admins don't really hang out on irc. Only the CP can ask for those by sending a ticket.
Written by a player with Enemy CS against eUK
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Written by an ESO player probably with a Cabinet position for jamesw
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After a long time i can say
HAIL Thatcher
: )
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The only thing jamesw stole was my heart
@BigAnt: Jamesw had enemy citizenship last week.
MagiMaster, if someone steals money from a country while being a CP, ofc they will give the info to an interested party. What would be the point of giving it to a thief anyway? He already has that info, lol.
Danie Fox: Enemy citizenship which he lied to get, what an upstanding guy!
@MagiMaster
You are incorrect about admin not being on IRC. In or around the same time as this, we(Ireland) met with admins on IRC to be refunded attack costs for battles that started 8 hours after we pushed the button. This is just an example, we met with admin on IRC on a number of occasions.
And on whether they would give this particular type of info to anyone other than a CP? Well, you think they wouldn't give it to a leading eUKer at the time who spent considerable amounts of rl cash on their game?
Add to all of this that Thatcher would probably win the award for "Most Honest and Trusted eRepublikan" if such an award existed and it's not looking good for anyone trying to argue against this.
It just proves that Greatmoff is the best option for UK.
He had been MoD in Slovakia for a while, operated with significant amount of money and inventories and there was never anything missing. You might not like him but he loves UK and that's what matters.
To be quite honest: The only way to make these "logs" acceptable as a proof would be to see the actual files and the dates of their creation. Without that they're just a copied and pasted text that doesn't prove anything.
thatcher ❤
lol
@gordon: If it was a fake we'd see a denial. All he has denied is that it was because his car was stolen or something.
Margaret H Thatcher never thought I would see this from you. Sad story it is, but thanks for posting!
It is possible for some Mods to view transactions and thus it's also possible to tell other people loge thatcher about these transactions (which is actually not allowed, that's why there can't be names in the logs).
"To be quite honest: The only way to make these "logs" acceptable as a proof would be to see the actual files and the dates of their creation"
lol'd
everyone knows this is the truth, quit clutching at straws.
"everyone knows this is the truth, quit clutching at straws. "
First, I am not clutching at anything. Quite frankly, I don't care who's winning this, I'm just appalled by the way this campaign has gone down just about every drain there is.
Secon😛 If MHT wants to put forward serious accusations, MHT should be prepared to come up with serious proof. Why didn't those logs come up as soon as it was announced that jamesw would be running? Because they hadn't been written yet? Just asking 😉
And thir😛 Glad you're having fun. After all, that's the reason we're playing this GAME, no? (caps intended)
Whilst the authenticity of the logs posted can be called into question, they all line up with the events at the time. We all believed jw stole the money and this just goes to back it up.
ly Thatcher,
Make of this what you want, Gordon. If you want to believe that random criminals who mugged jamesw IRL logged into two orgs and jamesw's account to steal virtual currency, which, some weeks after the "mugging" took place, were still in jamesw's account, ok. If you want to believe that I faked logs to that effect to smear jamesw's campaign, ok. If you want to believe that I am getting something from sticking my neck out in an election that has 0 effect on me, ok. That is entirely up to you mate.
Those transactions did happen, and it doesn't take an Administrator to find them. Senior mods had access to all monetary transactions (not sure if the beginners did or not), so they can see who used what in both regular and MM transfers.
The story came out about some Erep playing car jacker, iirc, then something about a disease.
I already said there are only 2 admins on IRC that are online, and @ Romper - they won't give it on IRC, only by tickets. I've tried.
I have also known this for a while as I remember speaking to you about it at the time, Thatcher. Just a shame that it had to be posted in-game. : /
Just to add weight to this - Thatcher tells truth here.
That is low down and dirty. and then jamesw makes up a story about being mugged in RL, and that somehow led to the draining of the eUK Treasury. Really?
There is as much chance of that being true and jamesw not being culpable for this act of disgrace, as me being mauled by a polar bear and a regular bear on the same day. And I live in the desert.
He's basically won the election : / Rolo mark 2
Sligo is a dangerous place for car-jackings. I barely survived 5 days there.
It's not over yet by a long shot Danie. Not even 10% of the population has voted. Even if say 15% is active then that is another 2-300 more votes up for grabs. A lot of politically neutral players probably don't like political parties put the nation at risk like this.
The famous TUP night vote has still to come!
.. so this is the Sherlock investigation Romper was talking about..
Doesn't suprise me but I still don't see a 'smoking gun' IF his account was comprimised. Asks alot of credulity to believe that though if he still has the money.
Account compromised by a mugger who plays erep?
WHY DID NOBODY LISTEN TO GOKU?
I said this stuff righ after it happened!
Everyone with sense has been trolled out of eUK and now it is too late as the idiots and torlls take over and fail (see Appleby term). You guys deserve it for being too cowardly to challenge them.
Sad news brah. We had the same problem.
Lawrence Of Arabia > http://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/584342
Stole All Our Gold and Money From The National Treasury of Saudi Arabia. 🙁
How can Such a Sh**y Problem be fixed anyway?
~hyuu~
"WHY DID NOBODY LISTEN TO GOKU?"
New eUK slogan right der.
neka je